Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-24 Thread Julian H. Stacey
I honestly can't see why you would want to waste your time like this, but it's yours to waste I suppose. (Even a notorious packrat like me has gotten rid of hardware from that era.) mcl Hmm, So that's you jhb warning me off. Well I do have a ToDo list that's a mile long, so maybe I'd best

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-24 Thread Kris Kennaway
Julian Elischer wrote: I think a 386 can assume non-SMP in which case that can be simulated just fine :-) it also simplifies a lot of the other breakages.. #if (CPU == 80386) defined(SMP) #error can't have smp on a 386 #endif Paging Terry Lambert...Terry Lambert, to the hackers lounge

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-23 Thread Rui Paulo
On 22 Sep 2009, at 19:03, Nate Eldredge wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, John Baldwin wrote: My comment is to just use 4.x (seriously). A true 386 is going to be quite slow and the overhead of many things added that work well on newer processors is going to be very painful on a 386 (probably

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-23 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Rui Paulo wrote: On 22 Sep 2009, at 19:03, Nate Eldredge wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, John Baldwin wrote: My comment is to just use 4.x (seriously). A true 386 is going to be quite slow and the overhead of many things added that work well on newer processors is going to be

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-23 Thread Rui Paulo
On 23 Sep 2009, at 16:54, Julian H. Stacey wrote: 4.11 fell out of security support some while back, but http://www.freebsd.org/security/index.html only lists what's still in, not what fell out when. Right, but IIRC there were some folks patch 4-STABLE after the security officer

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-23 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday 23 September 2009 11:54:34 am Julian H. Stacey wrote: Rui Paulo wrote: On 22 Sep 2009, at 19:03, Nate Eldredge wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, John Baldwin wrote: My comment is to just use 4.x (seriously). A true 386 is going to be quite slow and the overhead of

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-23 Thread Julian Elischer
John Baldwin wrote: On Wednesday 23 September 2009 11:54:34 am Julian H. Stacey wrote: Rui Paulo wrote: On 22 Sep 2009, at 19:03, Nate Eldredge wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, John Baldwin wrote: My comment is to just use 4.x (seriously). A true 386 is going to be quite slow and the overhead

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-23 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday 23 September 2009 1:21:59 pm Julian Elischer wrote: John Baldwin wrote: On Wednesday 23 September 2009 11:54:34 am Julian H. Stacey wrote: Rui Paulo wrote: On 22 Sep 2009, at 19:03, Nate Eldredge wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, John Baldwin wrote: My comment is to just use

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-23 Thread Nate Eldredge
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, John Baldwin wrote: On Wednesday 23 September 2009 1:21:59 pm Julian Elischer wrote: John Baldwin wrote: Other things added since then assume at least a 486. Not having cmpxchg is a bit of a killer. I think a 386 can assume non-SMP in which case that can be simulated

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-23 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 05:54:34PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: 4.11 fell out of security support some while back, but http://www.freebsd.org/security/index.html only lists what's still in, not what fell out when. Then see http://people.freebsd.org/~linimon/schedule/milestones.html.

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-22 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday 21 September 2009 8:03:43 am Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Alexey Shuvaev shuv...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:56:59 +0200 Message-id: 20090918125659.ga88...@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de Alexey Shuvaev

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-22 Thread Nate Eldredge
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, John Baldwin wrote: My comment is to just use 4.x (seriously). A true 386 is going to be quite slow and the overhead of many things added that work well on newer processors is going to be very painful on a 386 (probably on a 486 as well). 4.x runs fine on a 386 and should

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-21 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: Alexey Shuvaev shuv...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:56:59 +0200 Message-id: 20090918125659.ga88...@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de Alexey Shuvaev wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:09:46AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi

genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-18 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi hackers, I'm trying to get my Genuine 386 running 7.2. It currently runs 4.11. 386 was first base of FreeBSD, a shame to lose it. So far I've hacked diffs as below + the normal /etc/make.conf CFLAGS += -march=i386 cross compiled all bins libs etc setenv DESTDIR

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-18 Thread Alexey Shuvaev
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:09:46AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi hackers, I'm trying to get my Genuine 386 running 7.2. It currently runs 4.11. 386 was first base of FreeBSD, a shame to lose it. So far I've hacked diffs as below + the normal /etc/make.conf CFLAGS += -march=i386