Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-13 Thread Doug Barton
On 12/06/2011 05:45, RW wrote: On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:29:03 -0600 Zhihao Yuan wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:21 AM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 04:54:18 -0600 Zhihao Yuan wrote: Not really. The actual thing is, linuxulator is a Linux kernel running as a

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-08 Thread Thomas Mueller
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:56:49 + (GMT) Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: Too much to quote here without making a mess, and I want to get to bed, but thanks for all the ideas. I noticed the advice with emulators/wine that running programs on an actual MS-Windows

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-07 Thread Thomas Mueller
Too much to quote here without making a mess, and I want to get to bed, but thanks for all the ideas. I noticed the advice with emulators/wine that running programs on an actual MS-Windows partition can make a mess of said partition; wonder if there would be such a hazard with Linux instead of

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-07 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:56:49 + (GMT) Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: Too much to quote here without making a mess, and I want to get to bed, but thanks for all the ideas. I noticed the advice with emulators/wine that running programs on an actual MS-Windows partition can

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-06 Thread Thomas Mueller
The X server has a unix socket somewhere in /tmp. Normally this is used instead of a TCP connection to the localhost. You need to change the DISPLAY env-variable to use a TCP connection, or you need o make the unix socket available to the chrooted linux-env. The linuxulator in FreeBSD is

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-06 Thread Zhihao Yuan
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: The X server has a unix socket somewhere in /tmp. Normally this is used instead of a TCP connection to the localhost. You need to change the DISPLAY env-variable to use a TCP connection, or you need o make the unix

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-06 Thread RW
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 04:54:18 -0600 Zhihao Yuan wrote: Not really. The actual thing is, linuxulator is a Linux kernel running as a FreeBSD kernel module. The only thing FreeBSD kernel do is to identify the Linux program and to pass it to the Linux kernel. To the Linux programs inside a GNU

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-06 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Hi, you don't need to install an old linux kernel. It depends upon the features used by the userland stuff. It is possible to compile glibc to use all features, or to compile it in a way it works on an old kernel too (I have no idea about the details involved). So all depends upon the

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-06 Thread Zhihao Yuan
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:21 AM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 04:54:18 -0600 Zhihao Yuan wrote: Not really. The actual thing is, linuxulator is a Linux kernel running as a FreeBSD kernel module. The only thing FreeBSD kernel do is to identify the Linux program and

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-06 Thread Zhihao Yuan
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:45 AM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:29:03 -0600 Zhihao Yuan wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:21 AM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 04:54:18 -0600 Zhihao Yuan wrote: Not really. The actual thing is,

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-06 Thread Zhihao Yuan
Well, I'm wrong. I read in effect as in fact... -- Zhihao Yuan On Dec 6, 2011 9:33 AM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:04:59 -0600 Zhihao Yuan wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:45 AM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: But what I was getting at was the

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-05 Thread Thomas Mueller
On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:06:19 + (GMT) Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: The linux-base port is supposed to provide good integration into FreeBSD. Ideally the integration is seamless. The linux-dist ports provide a complete linux environment. You chroot into it

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-05 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Hi, The X server has a unix socket somewhere in /tmp. Normally this is used instead of a TCP connection to the localhost. You need to change the DISPLAY env-variable to use a TCP connection, or you need o make the unix socket available to the chrooted linux-env. The linuxulator in FreeBSD is

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-03 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:06:19 + (GMT) Thomas Mueller mueller6...@bellsouth.net wrote: The linux-base port is supposed to provide good integration into FreeBSD. Ideally the integration is seamless. The linux-dist ports provide a complete linux environment. You chroot into it and you

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-12-01 Thread Thomas Mueller
The linux-base port is supposed to provide good integration into FreeBSD. Ideally the integration is seamless. The linux-dist ports provide a complete linux environment. You chroot into it and you have a complete linux system. You can compile linux binaries inside the +linux-dist. You

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-11-30 Thread Lars Engels
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 03:27:15PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, you can install the gentoo linux-dist in parallel to the default linux-base. Gentoo will be in /usr/local, not in /compat/linux. As such you have to manually start programs there via chroot. This means you do not have

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-11-30 Thread Olivier Smedts
2011/11/29 Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net: Hi, you can install the gentoo linux-dist in parallel to the default linux-base. Gentoo will be in /usr/local, not in /compat/linux. As such you have to manually start programs there via chroot. This means you do not have access to

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-11-30 Thread Daniel Nebdal
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 03:27:15PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, you can install the gentoo linux-dist in parallel to the default linux-base. Gentoo will be in /usr/local, not in /compat/linux. As such you have

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-11-30 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Hi, The linux-base port is supposed to provide good integration into FreeBSD. Ideally the integration is seamless. The linux-dist ports provide a complete linux environment. You chroot into it and you have a complete linux system. You can compile linux binaries inside the linux-dist. You can

Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-11-29 Thread Thomas Mueller
I noticed on http://www.freshports.org/commits.php an update to the Gentoo Linux distribution. I know there are other Linux compatibility ports in the emulators category. Is it possible to install more than one Linux compatibility package or actual Linux installation and switch from one to the

Re: Linux compatibility with more than one Linux installed?

2011-11-29 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Hi, you can install the gentoo linux-dist in parallel to the default linux-base. Gentoo will be in /usr/local, not in /compat/linux. As such you have to manually start programs there via chroot. This means you do not have access to you FreeBSD files like normally, except you do null-mounts