Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree?

2011-09-13 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Doug. You wrote 13 сентября 2011 г., 0:05:27: On 09/12/2011 12:58, Lev Serebryakov wrote: How could I determine which ports are directly lined with libgcc from gcc44? ldd? Yes, that's really the only answer. I have the following function which would work: snip libchk port could

USE_GCC and unnesessary RUN_DENEDS on gcc port (Was: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree?)

2011-09-13 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Lev. You wrote 13 сентября 2011 г., 11:01:14: For example, x264 DEPENDS on gcc, (has USE_GCC=4.4+ in Makefile), but no x264 files are linked with libgcc_s.so or other libraries from gcc44. It seems, that we need separate USE_GCC_BUILD and USE_GCC_RUN, as with PERL or PYTHON. Or,

Re: How to best run a script post installation _and_ deinstallation?

2011-09-13 Thread Chris Rees
On 13 Sep 2011 01:36, Gerald Pfeifer ger...@pfeifer.com wrote: On Sun, 22 May 2011, Doug Barton wrote: Will @unexec in pkg-plist do the job? On Mon, 23 May 2011, Wesley Shields wrote: Are these what you are looking for:

Re: FreeBSD Port: clamsmtp-1.10_3

2011-09-13 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
Juergen Dankoweit wrote on 10.09.2011 18:54: Hello clsung, sorry that I don't know your right name, so I used prefix of your email address. I want to tell you that the download address of clamsmtp has changed. It is now http://thewalter.net/stef/software/clamsmtp/clamsmtp-1.10.tar.gz and not

Re: USE_GCC and unnesessary RUN_DENEDS on gcc port (Was: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree?)

2011-09-13 Thread b. f.
For example, x264 DEPENDS on gcc, (has USE_GCC=4.4+ in Makefile), but no x264 files are linked with libgcc_s.so or other libraries from gcc44. It seems, that we need separate USE_GCC_BUILD and USE_GCC_RUN, as with PERL or PYTHON. Or, maybe automate this, as now port system warns

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, If not, see to backups and/or migration in due time. We can't possibly support software that is unsupported by the vendor, but that's what We already do. Been working just fine for many years. No I wont tell you where, because I don't trust you a few other irresponsible ports crusaders

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Matthias Andree wrote: An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in the first place). Bullshit! I think that suffices. If the discussion is getting emotional, we should stop it. No. You should stop advocating killing ports, or leave, or be revoked. FreeBSD

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 01:40:27 -0700 Message-id: 4e6b227b.5050...@freebsd.org Doug Barton wrote: The way that the FreeBSD project handles deleted ports is to leave them in the CVS repository, where they are easily

Re: deprecated because: Development has ceased??? Maybe development is *complete*

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
If the author of another package stated that maintenance ceased, that is no longer the case. Any why let port users fall into this pit? They You advocate digging the pit. The hole where the ports was. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich

Re: ports deprecations (was: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
No, I won't tell you which window manager, because if I want to use it again I don't want to discover that calling it to the minds of some of the ports people caused it to be deleted. That summarises it. I too avoided mentioning a port for fear of the immature kids who destroy ports. At least

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-13 Thread Michal Varga
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 18:46 -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: I found Michal Varga's critique snarky and unnecessarily sarcastic... I agree that it was unnecessarily sarcastic. We all make mistakes from time to time. Michal could have pointed out the mistake and still been nice

Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree?

2011-09-13 Thread Oliver Fromme
Lev Serebryakov wrote: Is here console tool, which shows dependency tree of installed ports from required port to users? pkg_tree performs opposite task. Maybe this script is helpful: http://www.secnetix.de/olli/scripts/pkg_dep_view By default it displays the dependency graph of your

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-13 Thread Tony Mc
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:10:51 +0200 Michal Varga varga.mic...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not writing about this for the first time (in fact this is for the last time, so hey, at least there's something on a positive note), but it has gradually become nigh impossible to use FreeBSD as a modern

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-13 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
On 09/13/2011 04:10 AM, Michal Varga wrote: And if it wasn't Gabor's commit that again brought my OS down to unusable level, it would be the one next week, or if we are lucky, two to three weeks from now (but that would be probably this year's record). Because the current procedures in place

Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree?

2011-09-13 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 13/09/2011 10:01 Lev Serebryakov said the following: libchk port could help, too. But it seems top be broken. It shows, that system /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 depends on gcc44's libgcc_s.so and it is completely wrong! I'll fill pr about it! Most likely there is something wrong in your

Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree?

2011-09-13 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Andriy. You wrote 13 сентября 2011 г., 17:10:13: I'll fill pr about it! Most likely there is something wrong in your environment. libmap.conf or some such. it is empty. libchk uses what ldd(1) reports and ldd reports what would happen during actual run-time linking. ldd run

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-13 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:10:51AM +0200, Michal Varga wrote: So believe me, as soon as my systems are all on [insert any modern and properly maintained desktop OS/distribution that works, which based on my tests over the last few weeks quite nicely fills Arch Linux, but then many else would

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-13 Thread Oliver Fromme
Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: particularly nasty thing to do. I get the impression that each committer has his own special way of doing this. For example, I have personally found that a simple grep won't work, because grep xxx /usr/ports/*/Makefile* just creates a line too long for

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-13 Thread Mark Linimon
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:32:01PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Please consider resigning. plonk. mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: deprecated because: Development has ceased??? Maybe development is *complete*

2011-09-13 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 12.09.2011 22:58, schrieb Julian H. Stacey: If the author of another package stated that maintenance ceased, that is no longer the case. Any why let port users fall into this pit? They You advocate digging the pit. The hole where the ports was. Nonsense. It's a wanton exaggeration of

Is WRKDIR a user- or a port-defined variable? (Re: Screwy behavior in ports framework)

2011-09-13 Thread h h
(redirect from -current@ to -ports@) Erwin Lansing er...@freebsd.org writes: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:45:05AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: PORTSDIR=/BETA1/usr/ports PACKAGES=/usr/packages WRKDIR=workb2 # added by use.perl 2011-09-13 02:49:43 PERL_VERSION=5.14.1 Maybe WRKDIR should

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-13 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 13.09.2011 11:10, schrieb Michal Varga: On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 18:46 -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: I found Michal Varga's critique snarky and unnecessarily sarcastic... I agree that it was unnecessarily sarcastic. We all make mistakes from time to time. Michal could have

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-13 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 12.09.2011 23:32, schrieb Julian H. Stacey: Hi, If not, see to backups and/or migration in due time. We can't possibly support software that is unsupported by the vendor, but that's what We already do. Been working just fine for many years. No I wont tell you where, because I don't

Re: Is WRKDIR a user- or a port-defined variable? (Re: Screwy behavior in ports framework)

2011-09-13 Thread Chris Rees
On 13 September 2011 17:25, h h aakuu...@gmail.com wrote: (redirect from -current@ to -ports@) Erwin Lansing er...@freebsd.org writes: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:45:05AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: PORTSDIR=/BETA1/usr/ports PACKAGES=/usr/packages WRKDIR=workb2 # added by use.perl

Re: ports deprecations (was: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Chris Rees
On 12 September 2011 22:07, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: No, I won't tell you which window manager, because if I want to use it again I don't want to discover that calling it to the minds of some of the ports people caused it to be deleted. That summarises it. I too avoided

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 +0100 Message-id: cadlo83-zcvaeyznw5dtehv1tosburzllr2hjxfjrx_qewph...@mail.gmail.com Chris Rees wrote: On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Matthias

checking conflicts on build stage

2011-09-13 Thread Sergey Matveychuk
Hello. Who did the subject and why? # portupgrade -f -o /usr/ports/mail/exim exim-mysql-4.71 === exim-4.76 conflicts with installed package(s): exim-mysql-4.71 They install files into the same place. You may want to stop build with Ctrl + C. === Vulnerability check

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Chris Rees wrote: On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Matthias Andree wrote: An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in the first place). Bullshit! I think that suffices.  If the discussion is getting emotional, we

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-13 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote on 13.09.2011 16:03: In particular, checking which ports depend on a port just updated is a particularly nasty thing to do. I get the impression that each committer has his own special way of doing this. For example, I have personally found that a simple grep

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:25:01 +0100 Message-id: CADLo838gUfrGhOYWYBym=5yiatyjy8r9bndxcu8gmbjebre...@mail.gmail.com Chris Rees wrote: On 13 September 2011 18:54, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Hi,

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-13 Thread Sam Cassiba
On 09/13/11 14:27, Michal Varga wrote: Sigh, okay. Some time earlier during the day I was still planning to address few interesting points (especially) Stephen raised, but by this time I'm finally getting to it and reading through the rest of the emails, I can see that this would only be a

testing PKGNG...

2011-09-13 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Hello, I moved all my servers (about 40) to the pkgng (new generation) package/port system, and I can say that it is amazing... it is not yet finish, and have some minor issues, but works very well, and is lightning fast.. It is almost the same as pacman (from Archlinux).. you build a

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Chris Rees
On 13 Sep 2011 20:57, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:25:01 +0100 Message-id: CADLo838gUfrGhOYWYBym= 5yiatyjy8r9bndxcu8gmbjebre...@mail.gmail.com Chris Rees wrote: On 13 September

Re: testing PKGNG...

2011-09-13 Thread Julien Laffaye
On 09/13/2011 03:53, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: Hello, I moved all my servers (about 40) to the pkgng (new generation) package/port system, and I can say that it is amazing... it is not yet finish, and have some minor issues, but works very well, and is lightning fast.. It is almost the

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-13 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
On 09/13/2011 09:11 AM, Oliver Fromme wrote: Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: particularly nasty thing to do. I get the impression that each committer has his own special way of doing this. For example, I have personally found that a simple grep won't work, because grep xxx

Re: testing PKGNG

2011-09-13 Thread Michel Talon
Sergio wrote: I moved all my servers (about 40) to the pkgng (new generation) package/port system, and I can say that it is amazing... it is not yet finish, and have some minor issues, but works very well, and is lightning fast.. It is almost the same as pacman (from Archlinux).. you build

Re: testing PKGNG

2011-09-13 Thread Julien Laffaye
On 09/13/2011 23:16, Michel Talon wrote: Sergio wrote: I moved all my servers (about 40) to the pkgng (new generation) package/port system, and I can say that it is amazing... it is not yet finish, and have some minor issues, but works very well, and is lightning fast.. It is almost the same

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-13 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 13.09.2011 21:27, schrieb Michal Varga: Though if I had to pick a random case again, it probably wouldn't be too hard to make some wildly unsubstantiated guesses: ## From: Matthias Andree matthias.and...@gmx.de ## Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Wildly

Stacey's was: ports-system priorities rant

2011-09-13 Thread Matthias Andree
Its time that commit bit was revoked to protect ports/ along with perhaps 3 other misguided butchers' commit bits, perhaps one of whom might have been your commit mentor. Get a life. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Matthias Andree wrote: claim, please fix, until end 2011, in mail/procmail, in collaboration with sunpoet@: Procmail works for me, for a friend, others on list. It was remains irresponsible to try to force satisfied users to fix other people's reported problems on threat of ports being

Re: Stacey's was: ports-system priorities rant

2011-09-13 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:53:54PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: Its time that commit bit was revoked to protect ports/ along with perhaps 3 other misguided butchers' commit bits, perhaps one of whom might have been your commit mentor. Get a life. The two of you come off like mirror

Re: cvs commit: ports/x11/nvidia-driver Makefile distinfo

2011-09-13 Thread Dmitry Marakasov
* Alexey Dokuchaev (da...@freebsd.org) wrote: Log: - Update NVidia drivers to their corresponding latest versions - Apply a workaround to fix the build on recent -CURRENT after fget(9) KPI was changed in r224778 (affects the driver since version 195.22) Just for everyone's

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-13 Thread Glen Barber
On 9/13/11 4:52 PM, Chris Rees wrote: I'm rather tired of being called to defend myself, I see no reason why you should find it necessary. Bravo for the work you've done. I've plenty of better things to be doing. Agreed. Julian, amongst others this past few weeks, have successfully made