2010/5/23 jhell jh...@dataix.net:
That shouldn't actually be to hard. If a utility like the three main upgrade
tools that are being used the most right now would export a variable for say
UPGRADING=yes then the uninstall script could check against that to decide
whether or not the port is
On May 24, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Alexander Churanov wrote:
2010/5/23 jhell jh...@dataix.net:
That shouldn't actually be to hard. If a utility like the three main upgrade
tools that are being used the most right now would export a variable for say
UPGRADING=yes then the uninstall script could
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On 23/05/2010 02:50:00, Ade Lovett wrote:
On May 22, 2010, at 16:39 , Anonymous wrote:
Such unused entries in passwd add clutter. It in turn makes managing
users more complex. You have to remember which users are created by you
and which ones
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On 23/05/2010 04:47:49, jhell wrote:
But if a port can install a user there is no reason that it can not
uninstall a user via pw(8) that is available from bsd.commands.mk after
checking a recorded md5(1) sum that it could create upon installation
On Sat, 22 May 2010 23:21:35 -0400
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:
You being the originator of the thread called Users and groups kept
after a port deinstallation which implies to me that you had a
problem with users left behind on a system am I correct ?
No, and the OP and I have different
On Sun, 23 May 2010 07:57:36 +0400
Anonymous swel...@gmail.com wrote:
You don't have to remember, just look at the UID/GID values,
ordinary users start at 1001, ports create UIDs 1000.
You're presuming non-ordinary users are created only by ports
framework. That's not always the case. I
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On Sun, 23 May 2010 02:02, Matthew Seaman wrote:
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On 23/05/2010 04:47:49, jhell wrote:
But if a port can install a user there is no reason that it can not
uninstall a user via pw(8) that is
Hi--
On May 22, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote:
OpenBSD has a convention that all system user accounts start with a '_'
character. There are a few accounts in UIDs that have adopted that, but
no great stampede to adopt the idea despite most people agreeing with it.
That convention
On 05/23/10 09:24, jhell wrote:
That shouldn't actually be to hard. If a utility like the three main
upgrade tools that are being used the most right now would export a
variable for say UPGRADING=yes then the uninstall script could check
against that to decide whether or not the port is being
On 05/21/2010 20:08, Garrett Cooper wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Fri, 21 May 2010 16:23:18 +0100
Florent Thoumie f...@xbsd.org wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM, David DEMELIER
demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I used pkgsrc for a
2010/5/22 Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Fri, 21 May 2010 16:23:18 +0100
Florent Thoumie f...@xbsd.org wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM, David DEMELIER
demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I used pkgsrc
On Sat, 22 May 2010 03:29:38 -0400
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:
Having unused logins on a system is bad!
Why?
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On Sat, 22 May 2010 07:58:38 -0400
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:
On 05/22/2010 07:08, RW wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 03:29:38 -0400
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:
Having unused logins on a system is bad!
Why?
For one example:
This opens up a point of possible access to the
On 05/22/2010 08:42, RW wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 07:58:38 -0400
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:
On 05/22/2010 07:08, RW wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 03:29:38 -0400
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:
Having unused logins on a system is bad!
Why?
For one example:
This opens up a point of
On Sat, 22 May 2010 11:42:53 -0400
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:
Having unused logins on a system is bad!
Why?
For one example:
This opens up a point of possible access to the system in which its
integrity could be jeopardized. What all the implications are of
this is out of
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 11:42:53 -0400
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:
This is more of a best practices case than what the implications of
leaving users in the master.passwd are.
Why is it best practice? Why add extra complexity to solve a problem
that
On Sun, 23 May 2010 03:39:53 +0400
Anonymous swel...@gmail.com wrote:
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 11:42:53 -0400
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:
This is more of a best practices case than what the implications of
leaving users in the master.passwd are.
On May 22, 2010, at 16:39 , Anonymous wrote:
Such unused entries in passwd add clutter. It in turn makes managing
users more complex. You have to remember which users are created by you
and which ones are created by ports.
Irrespective of the UID/GID stuff mentioned elsewhere, merely go
the
relevance.
You being the originator of the thread called Users and groups kept
after a port deinstallation which implies to me that you had a problem
with users left behind on a system am I correct ?
If so then why do you keep insisting on arguing a point that says you
really do not care
On 05/22/2010 21:50, Ade Lovett wrote:
On May 22, 2010, at 16:39 , Anonymous wrote:
Such unused entries in passwd add clutter. It in turn makes managing
users more complex. You have to remember which users are created by you
and which ones are created by ports.
Irrespective of the
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes:
On Sun, 23 May 2010 03:39:53 +0400
Anonymous swel...@gmail.com wrote:
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 11:42:53 -0400
jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:
This is more of a best practices case than what the implications of
Hi,
I used pkgsrc for a while on NetBSD. I was used to the pkgsrc
notifications about the users and groups leaves, when some ports are
removed these leaves are not used anymore. e.g pulseaudio needs some
users on the system.
Then the pkgsrc framework says to the user that are some users not
used
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM, David DEMELIER
demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I used pkgsrc for a while on NetBSD. I was used to the pkgsrc
notifications about the users and groups leaves, when some ports are
removed these leaves are not used anymore. e.g pulseaudio needs some
users
On Fri, 21 May 2010 16:23:18 +0100
Florent Thoumie f...@xbsd.org wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM, David DEMELIER
demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I used pkgsrc for a while on NetBSD. I was used to the pkgsrc
notifications about the users and groups leaves, when some ports are
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Fri, 21 May 2010 16:23:18 +0100
Florent Thoumie f...@xbsd.org wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM, David DEMELIER
demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I used pkgsrc for a while on NetBSD. I was used to the
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