Re: gbde blackening feature - how can on disk keys be destroyed thoroughly?

2004-09-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Kreil writes: Hi, From what I can see so far, they are simply overwritten with zeros - is that right? If so, the blackening feature would be much weakend, as once can read up to 20 layers of data even under random data (and more under zeros). I would be

Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?

2004-09-04 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 01:25:38 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there any open source version of the Real Audio player? or a translator that takes the input or ra[m] and creates a wav|mp3 stream? Also,is anything is the works to create a (*ick*)

Re: portindex/portindexdb

2004-09-04 Thread Steve Hodgson
FWIW, portindexdb will generate INDEX-5.db just fine on 5-current. It doesn't have the problem with ruby bus erroring like portsdb -u does. Kent This also works for me on 5.2.1-p9. Am I missing something in asking why couldn't portsdb -u be replaced by portindex? Obviously this couldn't

Workaround: KDE 3.3 startup problem

2004-09-04 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 12:32:52AM +0200, Alex de Kruijff wrote: Hi, I've updated my system to kde 3.3. This all when well. Then I had some problem with startin it and deceded to start with a new desktop. I.e. new home directory, and removing every other kde file related to my user. This

Re: sendmail setup

2004-09-04 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-09-03 20:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Giorgos, That's a lot of info. Is all of that really necessary to allow just one machine to send mail thru the bsd box to the net? [snip] Probably not. The details posted in my message were the changes that I made on my workstation at work

Crossover Office 3.0.0

2004-09-04 Thread Lance Morely
Hi, I was wondering if anyone had any luck getting this to work under FreeBSD? I can install it with no problems, but when I try to run the configure utility I get a pop-up with the message: Unable to convert 'c:/' to a Unix path: and I can get no further. I have tried playing with the [Drive C]

Re: Enabling Serial Console

2004-09-04 Thread Mike Tancsa
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:18:20 -0300 (ADT), in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: Wish to enable the serial console on my servers so that I can remotely view a reboot when it crashes ... Add -Dh to /boot.config And to /etc/ttys - ttyd0 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 dialup off secure +

SSL-programming: no client certificate

2004-09-04 Thread Richard Kaestner
Hope, this is not too far OT: I am playing around with a SSL Server / Client (from /usr/src/crypto/openssl/demos/ssl/ ) but I am unable to get the client certificate. The original example works well - without Client Cert. What I did: - I copied the code from server.c into the cli.c:

Re: jdk14 not building?

2004-09-04 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 04:43:00AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: I'm getting the attached when trying to build jdk14, using the linux-sun-jdk as the pre-installed jdk. /datmp/ports/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/build/bsd-i586/gensrc/java/util/CurrencyData.java:1: 'class' or 'interface'

Re: error compiling kernel

2004-09-04 Thread messmate
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 02:03:26 +0400 Sergey Zaharchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 09:40:35PM +0200, messmate probably wrote: Hello, to setup the pf firewall had to compile a new kernel. So added the options, compile and get this error : gensetdefs: kern_synch.o: not an

Re: portindex/portindexdb

2004-09-04 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 11:08:49AM +0100, Steve Hodgson wrote: FWIW, portindexdb will generate INDEX-5.db just fine on 5-current. It doesn't have the problem with ruby bus erroring like portsdb -u does. This also works for me on 5.2.1-p9. Am I missing something in asking why couldn't

pf_freebsd_2.03

2004-09-04 Thread messmate
Hi, is there somewhat wrong with package pf_freebsd from ports ( release_4_10_0) ?? I cvs't but wont compile; is only for 5.0 or above ?? When looking the tag, release 4_10_0 is there. -- Amicalement mess-mate ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Questions about FreeBSD hardware support

2004-09-04 Thread KTzone
I've just install a new server, use Adaptec 29320ALP,2 x 73GB SCSI HDD IN RAID 0, but it seems that can't co-operate with FreeBSD, it can't install. When I install FreeBSD 4.10 and try to enter the sysinstall, it keeps showing resetting device, can't enter sysinstall then i try FreeBSD 5.2.1, and

[Re: Unable to write to CD-R]

2004-09-04 Thread Norm Vilmer
Original Message Subject: Unable to write to CD-R Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 15:56:45 -0500 From: Norm Vilmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am having trouble burning an iso image to a CD-R using FreeBSD 4.10. I have tried using burncd , cdrecord, and growifofs, all

RE: minor gcc 3.4 issue

2004-09-04 Thread LiQuiD
Please forgive me if there was an easy way to find this out and I'm retarded, but uhm... how can I know if the issue brought forward in the post last month by the person below applies to the 4.x or 5.x branch? I have a FreeBSD system that was cvsup'd to -STABLE on jul. 24th and I'd like to do so

Re: Unable to write to CD-R

2004-09-04 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Friday 03 September 2004 03:56 pm, Norm Vilmer wrote: I am having trouble burning an iso image to a CD-R using FreeBSD 4.10. I have tried using burncd , cdrecord, and growifofs, all appear to have basically the same problem (see details below) Operation not permitted. The only thing bugs

Better way to get interface assigned to default route?

2004-09-04 Thread Markie
Hi all, I just now replaced my 350MHz PII home server back to the old 133MHz PI to see if my crashing problems went away. I have noticed that dhclient-script does a `netstat -rn | grep ^default | awk {'print $6'}` to get the interface that the default route is on, in my case my dsl modem is on

Problems using USB Storage devices...

2004-09-04 Thread Keatis
Hi, I've encountered a problem using USB Flash drives and USB HDD. I have 2 PCs, first - Intel Pentium PII 233MHz on LX chipset with Intel USB controller, USB1.0 (let's call this pc1), and second - Intel Pentium Xeon 2.4GHz with SCSI, LSILogic MegaRAID controllers and Intel 82801DB USB

Re: Unable to write to CD-R

2004-09-04 Thread Norm Vilmer
Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Friday 03 September 2004 03:56 pm, Norm Vilmer wrote: I am having trouble burning an iso image to a CD-R using FreeBSD 4.10. I have tried using burncd , cdrecord, and growifofs, all appear to have basically the same problem (see details below) Operation not permitted.

Toshiba SD-R6112 DVD-RW

2004-09-04 Thread Norm Vilmer
Has anyone successfully burned a CD or DVD using a Toshiba SD-R6112 DVD-RW drive with FreeBSD version 4.10? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: minor gcc 3.4 issue

2004-09-04 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 11:36:30AM -0400, LiQuiD wrote: I have a FreeBSD system that was cvsup'd to -STABLE on jul. 24th and I'd like to do so again in the next few weeks. However, I'm reluctant to do so if this new compiler is an issue as this machine is a mail server and dns server for my

Re: Better way to get interface assigned to default route?

2004-09-04 Thread Remko Lodder
Hi Markie, Markie wrote: Hi all, I just now replaced my 350MHz PII home server back to the old 133MHz PI to see if my crashing problems went away. I have noticed that dhclient-script does a `netstat -rn | grep ^default | awk {'print $6'}` to get the interface that the default route is on, in my

Re: Sendmail weirdness with 5.3 Beta2

2004-09-04 Thread epf1
On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 14:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having an odd problem with sendmail on a FreeBSD 5.3 Beta2 box that has been updated from 5.2.1. Here is the problem. I have a .forward set up for root that sends the mail from the periodic scripts on to a real account. Right now

Re: Better way to get interface assigned to default route?

2004-09-04 Thread Markie
Stupid me forgot to forward it back to the list, hit the wrong button. Sorry :-D - Original Message - From: Markie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Remko Lodder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 6:15 PM Subject: Re: Better way to get interface assigned to default route? | -

ftp-master.FreeBSD.org

2004-09-04 Thread Chris Ryan
Hi All I am a keen freeBSD user. I love rebuilding the kernel / upgrading looking at where its going next... The concepts being released in 5.3 are great including the windows drivers hooks... I am keen to help out where I can. How can I get access to ftp-master.FreeBSD.org to help with

Re: ftp-master.FreeBSD.org

2004-09-04 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Chris Ryan wrote: Hi All I am a keen freeBSD user. I love rebuilding the kernel / upgrading looking at where its going next... The concepts being released in 5.3 are great including the windows drivers hooks... I am keen to help out where I can. How can I get access to ftp-master.FreeBSD.org to

Re: ftp-master.FreeBSD.org

2004-09-04 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 03:53:48AM +1000, Chris Ryan wrote: How can I get access to ftp-master.FreeBSD.org to help with testing? I think you might be getting confused. If you want to help with testing you want to be tracking -STABLE (or maybe even -HEAD). Reading the Handbook is a good idea

Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?

2004-09-04 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:52:55 +0200 Miguel Mendez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 01:25:38 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there any open source version of the Real Audio player? or a translator that takes the input or ra[m] and creates a

Do I need every .iso file?

2004-09-04 Thread Doug
Ja, for FreeBSD, do I also need in addition to the disc1 and disc2 isos, for I386, do I need to use the i386minilist.iso file, or can I do without? Thanks. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: Do I need every .iso file?

2004-09-04 Thread Olaf Hoyer
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Doug wrote: Ja, for FreeBSD, do I also need in addition to the disc1 and disc2 isos, for I386, do I need to use the i386minilist.iso file, or can I do without? Thanks. Hi! The miniinst.iso is a disc1 minus several pre-compiled packages, such as X etc. So if you already

Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?

2004-09-04 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 10:52:55AM +0200, Miguel Mendez wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 01:25:38 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there any open source version of the Real Audio player? or a translator that takes the input or ra[m] and creates a wav|mp3

Re: [Re: Unable to write to CD-R]

2004-09-04 Thread Richard Lynch
cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 2.00.3 (I386 . cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Error opening /dev/pass0 Cam error 'camreal_ opendevice: coundn't open passthr. Cannot open SCSI driver. I dunno about all this other stuff, but to me, *THIS* looks like you don't have the IDE-SCSI module

Re: ftp-master.FreeBSD.org

2004-09-04 Thread Chris Ryan
I think you might be getting confused. If you want to help with testing you want to be tracking -STABLE (or maybe even -HEAD). ok thanks Reading the Handbook is a good idea here; http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html might be a good place to

Re: ftp-master.FreeBSD.org

2004-09-04 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Lewis Thompson wrote: On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 03:53:48AM +1000, Chris Ryan wrote: How can I get access to ftp-master.FreeBSD.org to help with testing? I think you might be getting confused. If you want to help with testing you want to be tracking -STABLE (or maybe even -HEAD). Reading

USERS CAN'T GMAKE

2004-09-04 Thread Cihan Çulha
Environment FreeBSD server.deneyim.net 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 23 20:45:55 GMT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Description In my server my users can't gmake in their accounts the irc services ex: ircservices,anope,epona... When a user wrote

Re: portindex/portindexdb

2004-09-04 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
Hello Mattthew, This is not a moot point. I've been struggling with this problem since this morning. The problem would just not go away. After I cvsup the ports, I use make index and then portversion -rRvc. I also run script whenever I cvsup, portupgrade, or install a new port. On 090104 I

Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?

2004-09-04 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:17:02 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounding more hopeful. Can you please post your mplayer configuration? Or give me some hints on howto replace realplay with mplayer with mozilla? It would be nice to have FBSD versions of every

RE: ftp-master.FreeBSD.org

2004-09-04 Thread JJB
ftp-master.FreeBSD.org is the master FTP server where all the other mirror FreeBSD FTP servers get their content to update with. This master site is only accusable by ftp mirror sites. 5.3 beta3 which is week 3 of the 5.3 beta weekly testing releases is available at most of the normal FreeBSD

Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?

2004-09-04 Thread kstewart
On Saturday 04 September 2004 12:17 pm, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 01:27:45PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:52:55 +0200 Miguel Mendez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 01:25:38 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,

Unable to write to CD-R

2004-09-04 Thread Mike Hauber
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but I'm going cross-eyed re-reading this... :) Just to make sure... You are unable to burn the CD _as root_? If you are able to burn the CD (as root), then you might want to take a look at sysutils/k3b/pkg-message in the ports tree. It's an ATD

Mouse pointer invisible in Gnome2

2004-09-04 Thread Paul Smith
I installed 4.10 with XF86 4.3 and Gnome2 on my IBM Thinkpad 600X laptop, which has a Neomagic video card. I used ncurses to configure /etc/X11/XF86Config. Everything went fine except when I brought up Gnome the mouse pointer was nowhere to be seen. The mouse was working because when I moved it

Re: Mouse pointer invisible in Gnome2

2004-09-04 Thread Shantanoo
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:01:09 -0700, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed 4.10 with XF86 4.3 and Gnome2 on my IBM Thinkpad 600X laptop, which has a Neomagic video card. I used ncurses to configure /etc/X11/XF86Config. Everything went fine except when I brought up Gnome the mouse

Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?

2004-09-04 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 02:56:35PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:17:02 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounding more hopeful. Can you please post your mplayer configuration? Or give me some hints on howto replace realplay with mplayer with

Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?

2004-09-04 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 13:30:29 -0700 kstewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What java plugin are you talking about? Should come with the java sdk. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

ISDN Jack Installation

2004-09-04 Thread Evan Sayer
Hello- My new house is currently being built, and I am wondering if I should install an ISDN jack now so that the SBC people don't have to do it once the walls are up and I actually want an ISDN connection. What do the people who install it have to do to get is upstairs when they install it,

questions about gcc options

2004-09-04 Thread stheg olloydson
Hello, I decided to repost this with a less ambiguous subject. I have a few questions concerning optimization. I just setup 5.2.1p9 on an athlon-xp box. I used -fmemoize-lookups and -fsave-memoized options but I got this when doing a make buildworld: cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line

Re: ISDN Jack Installation

2004-09-04 Thread Jerry McAllister
Hello- My new house is currently being built, and I am wondering if I should install an ISDN jack now so that the SBC people don't have to do it once the walls are up and I actually want an ISDN connection. What do the people who install it have to do to get is upstairs when they

Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?

2004-09-04 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:27:19 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 02:56:35PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:17:02 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounding more hopeful. Can you please post your mplayer configuration? Or

Re: ISDN Jack Installation

2004-09-04 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said: My new house is currently being built, and I am wondering if I should install an ISDN jack now so that the SBC people don't have to do it once the walls are up and I actually want an ISDN connection. What do the people who install it have to do to get is upstairs when they

Re: ISDN Jack Installation

2004-09-04 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
You don't want ISDN. A single ISDN line is only 64K and if you don't use a separate line for the ISDN, you interrupt your normal phone service. To get faster ISDN, you have to put in two lines at X$ per month. If you later switch to DSL and want to use your ISDN line(s) for that, you're still

Re: Better way to get interface assigned to default route?

2004-09-04 Thread Remko Lodder
Hi, Markie forgot, and forwared this to the list, i forgot and didn't notice it until now that it also had been sent to the list by Markie. So, i will 'reply' this message to the Questions list as well just to keep you guys and the archive updated. Cheers! Remko Lodder wrote: Markie wrote:

Re: gbde blackening feature - how can on disk keys be destroyed thoroughly?

2004-09-04 Thread David Kreil
Dear Poul-Henning, Thank you very much for your comments! From what I can see so far, they are simply overwritten with zeros - is that right? If so, the blackening feature would be much weakend, as one can read up to 20 layers of data even under random data (and more under zeros). I

Re: CDRW trouble

2004-09-04 Thread BSDjunkie
I know that you are using burncd...but I've always had more luck with cdrecord myselfeven though I don't have a scsi driver adding atapicam to the kernel works nicely. Maybe you're trying to burn too fast? I always have better luck at slower speedsnever burn (or try to burn) at 52x when

Re: FreeBSD on external Hard Disk

2004-09-04 Thread BSDjunkie
In my humble opinion: I'd try FreeBSD anyday over Fedora... Though I do love GNU/Linux and will always have a good opinion of it. Redhat distros are not my favorite. I'd much prefer Slackware or Debian. But that's just me... Mark --- Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The installation to

Re: Better way to get interface assigned to default route?

2004-09-04 Thread Markie
- Original Message - From: Remko Lodder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Markie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 11:17 PM Subject: Re: Better way to get interface assigned to default route? | Markie wrote: | | Suggesting I do `dhclient fxp1`? That's exactly my problem though

Re: USERS CAN'T GMAKE

2004-09-04 Thread Subhro
Looks to me as if its a gofed up directory permission. Regards S. On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 19:40:36 +, Cihan Çulha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Environment FreeBSD server.deneyim.net 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 23 20:45:55 GMT 2004 [EMAIL

File system replication between servers

2004-09-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Does anyone know of any software that will run on FreeBSD that would allow you to keep two servers in sync? All writes to /dir1 on server1 would go to /dir1 on server2, and all writes to /dir2 on server2 would go to /dir2 on server1? I've thought about rsync, but am trying to get it as close

Re: File system replication between servers

2004-09-04 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 04), Marc G. Fournier said: Does anyone know of any software that will run on FreeBSD that would allow you to keep two servers in sync? All writes to /dir1 on server1 would go to /dir1 on server2, and all writes to /dir2 on server2 would go to /dir2 on server1?

Re: ntpd as broadcastclient - not working?

2004-09-04 Thread Danny Mayer
At 04:59 AM 9/3/2004, W. D. wrote: Well folks, I got it working--sorta. You message shows that you are not running broadcast. This page has to have the date stuff on the left side edited out: http://tinyurl.com/72c69 The result is then substituted for /libisc/ifiter_ioctl.c, and then the whole

Re: File system replication between servers

2004-09-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Sep 04), Marc G. Fournier said: Does anyone know of any software that will run on FreeBSD that would allow you to keep two servers in sync? All writes to /dir1 on server1 would go to /dir1 on server2, and all writes to /dir2 on server2

Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?

2004-09-04 Thread kstewart
On Saturday 04 September 2004 02:43 pm, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 01:30:29PM -0700, kstewart wrote: On Saturday 04 September 2004 12:17 pm, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 01:27:45PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:52:55 +0200 Sounding

Re: File system replication between servers

2004-09-04 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 04), Marc G. Fournier said: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Dan Nelson wrote: You could even do it without shared storage if you use geom_gate and geom_{mirror,vinum,ccd} to keep two identical disks on each machine in sync. When the master crashes and comes back up as a

Re: File system replication between servers

2004-09-04 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 04), Marc G. Fournier said: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Dan Nelson wrote: How about a shared SCSI drive, filesystems only mounted on the master. When the master fails, the slave fscks the filesystems, mounts them, and becomes the master. Tried and true. You could even

Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?

2004-09-04 Thread kstewart
On Saturday 04 September 2004 07:43 pm, kstewart wrote: What java plugin are you talking about? Not a plugin but whatever jdk-* supports java in its many uses. javascript and whatever else. On my laptop I have netscape7 which appears to come with everything pre-built and

Re: [Re: Unable to write to CD-R]

2004-09-04 Thread Norm Vilmer
Richard Lynch wrote: cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 2.00.3 (I386 . cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Error opening /dev/pass0 Cam error 'camreal_ opendevice: coundn't open passthr. Cannot open SCSI driver. I dunno about all this other stuff, but to me, *THIS* looks like you don't have the

RE: ISDN Jack Installation

2004-09-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Lynch Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 4:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISDN Jack Installation Donald J. O'Neill wrote: month. If you later switch to DSL and want to use your

RE: ftp-master.FreeBSD.org

2004-09-04 Thread Chris Ryan
--- JJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ftp-master.FreeBSD.org is the master FTP server where all the other mirror FreeBSD FTP servers get their content to update with. oh ok - not what i meant... This master site is only accusable by ftp mirror sites. 5.3 beta3 which is week 3 of the 5.3