Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread perryh
Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote: I hope gnome does [go Linux-only].. Maybe then more people would forget about it and focus on making KDE better ;) ... What about enlightenment? For us

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Joshua Isom
On 7/18/2011 8:05 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Joshua Isomjri...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote: I hope gnome does [go Linux-only].. Maybe then more people would forget about it and focus on making KDE better

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread perryh
Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.comwrote: ... Name one cloud provider providing FreeBSD 8x or 9X to run as instances. I know

Fwd: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Aryeh Friedman
-- Forwarded message -- From: Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:16 AM Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore To: per...@pluto.rain.com That is the approach I am taking... RS's recommendation was we make a disk image to

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 07:10:59AM -0400, Jerry wrote: While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather interesting post this morning. Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )

2011-07-18 Thread Frank Bonnet
Hello Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the find command in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ? I need a tool that could inspect inside files because many users rename those filename to inoffensive ones :-) We are facing a legal problem so I'm a bit in the hurry to

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.comwrote: Im pretty sure they are only XEN based and not cloud based per se, as there appears to be no elasticity on demand, Granted RootBSD is nice but on demand expansion of memory, cpu and disk under ones control is more

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 01:51:19 -0500, Joshua Isom wrote: On 7/18/2011 8:05 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Joshua Isomjri...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote: I hope gnome does [go Linux-only].. Maybe then more

Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: Hello Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the find command in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ? I need a tool that could inspect inside files because many users rename those filename to inoffensive ones

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Christian Barthel
I moved from Linux (Debian GNU/Linux) to (Free|Open)BSD a few weeks ago and I am really impressed by the *BSDs. They are working very well (the Just works feeling I missed a long time), the port and package-system is very nice and handy, it's stable and you have a really powerful (superior)

Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )

2011-07-18 Thread Ryan Coleman
Grep. Ryan Coleman On Jul 18, 2011, at 2:55, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote: Hello Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the find command in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ? I need a tool that could inspect inside files because many users rename those

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread C. Bergström
On 07/18/11 03:02 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Outback Dingooutbackdi...@gmail.comwrote: Im pretty sure they are only XEN based and not cloud based per se, as there appears to be no elasticity on demand, Granted RootBSD is nice but on demand expansion of

Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )

2011-07-18 Thread Frank Bonnet
On 07/18/2011 10:10 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: Hello Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the find command in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ? I need a tool that could inspect inside files because many users rename

Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:38:22 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: On 07/18/2011 10:10 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: Hello Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the find command in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ? I

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Adam Vande More
2011/7/18 C. Bergström cbergst...@pathscale.com One of those links gives a 404 on the root domain Works for me. and the other on the pricing page (http://www.reliacloud.com/**pricing/http://www.reliacloud.com/pricing/ ) Not sure where you got that link. Use the menu. I'm not sure

Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )

2011-07-18 Thread Frank Bonnet
On 07/18/2011 10:45 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:38:22 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: On 07/18/2011 10:10 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: Hello Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the find command in order to detect video,

Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64

2011-07-18 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:56:10AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 09:33:45AM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: I hoped for a true native port for TeXLive I can't see that it's really necessary. I remember difficulties with the 2009 release when FreeBSD

Re: What is xz ?

2011-07-18 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me! 2011/07/17 23:08:16 -0400 ill...@gmail.com ill...@gmail.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : igc (Should be under contrib/xz ) archivers/xz 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) --

Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:19:13 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: If you know of another tex project where teTeX fails, please send me the details. I'm keen to patch teTeX as far as possible with no major changes to TDS, i.e. just adding or updating a package. If TeXlive is (or becomes) the

Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )

2011-07-18 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 03:55:59 2011 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:55:58 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc ) On 07/18/2011 10:45 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Mon,

Re: What is xz ?

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:36:07 +0400, Peter Vereshagin wrote: Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me! 2011/07/17 23:08:16 -0400 ill...@gmail.com ill...@gmail.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : igc (Should be under contrib/xz ) archivers/xz /usr/ports/archivers/xz on my

Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )

2011-07-18 Thread Frank Bonnet
On 07/18/2011 11:44 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 03:55:59 2011 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:55:58 +0200 From: Frank Bonnetf.bon...@esiee.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc ) On

Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64

2011-07-18 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:38:22AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:19:13 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: If you know of another tex project where teTeX fails, please send me the details. I'm keen to patch teTeX as far as possible with no major changes to TDS, i.e. just

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:05:41 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: And furthermore, I've found some Linux users migrating AWAY from Linux, using FreeBSD instead. How can this be combined with Poettering's claim? I'm the one...using Linux since '99 (SuSE, Gentoo,Arch) and moved to PCBSD-9.0

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me! 2011/07/18 03:49:59 -0500 Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com = To C. Bergstr?m : AVM We all wish a lot of things. One of mine would be that people shouldn't AVM have strong opinions on subjects they know little to nothing about. It's about me

Re: [freebsd-questions] Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Howard Jones
On 18/07/2011 11:14, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: I'm the one...using Linux since '99 (SuSE, Gentoo,Arch) and moved to PCBSD-9.0 some months ago. I'm *very* happy and cannot believe how little time I spend doing admin work 'cause the OS 'just works'. Otoh, Linux was saga with *constant*

groff UTF-8

2011-07-18 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, In the '90 I have used for a lot of my internal and external papers and letter the groff suite (gtbl, groff, ...) with good results. I've now a project where it would fit really nicely. It's making (Postscript or PCL) printout of some pages like this example one:

Re: groff UTF-8

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:49:39 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, In the '90 I have used for a lot of my internal and external papers and letter the groff suite (gtbl, groff, ...) with good results. I've now a project where it would fit really nicely. It's making (Postscript or PCL)

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0700 C. Bergström articulated: I wish people would spend as much time solving problems in *BSD as they do trying to defend an irrelevant OS ;) Personally, I wish they would spend more time in developing fully functional wireless drivers as opposed to simply

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:30:00 -0400, Jerry wrote: I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable of writing. Other OS's are

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0700 C. Bergström articulated: I wish people would spend as much time solving problems in *BSD as they do trying to defend an irrelevant OS ;) Personally, I wish they would spend more time in

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread C. Bergström
On 07/18/11 06:30 PM, Jerry wrote: I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable of writing. Like a bounties page? (If such a

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Just a side note I am the managing partner in a software development firm and they *ONLY* reason we have not released the majority of our internal lib is because we are essentially giving something of huge value (to us) up for nothing in return but if there was money involved to compensate for the

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Jerome Herman
On 17/07/2011 15:02, C. Bergström wrote: On 07/17/11 07:43 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: Op 17-7-2011 14:17 schreef Subbsd: community decreases. It is a pity that many developers of FreeBSD have left in Apple, the small part works over {NET,OPEN,DRAGONFLY}.BSD but as a whole it already

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 07:30:00AM -0400, Jerry wrote: I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable of writing. Other OS's

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 07:30:00AM -0400, Jerry wrote: I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable of writing. Other OS's

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Em Seg, 2011-07-18 às 07:30 -0400, Jerry escreveu: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0700 C. Bergström articulated: I wish people would spend as much time solving problems in *BSD as they do trying to defend an irrelevant OS ;) Personally, I wish they would spend more time in developing

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 07:01:29PM +0700, C. Bergstr??m wrote: On 07/18/11 06:30 PM, Jerry wrote: I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that either the regular contributors do not want to write

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me! 2011/07/18 07:50:41 -0400 Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com = To FreeBSD : AF version number every 18 months +/-. I have two new laptops ion front of AF me that I cannot use FBSD on simply because they don't support the AF wireless (N

Re: options used to compile packages

2011-07-18 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com writes: David Arendt wrote: Hi, well I don't actually now which package it was, but I compiled gdm (so it should be one of it's dependencies). A compilation resulted in a non working gdm (something with pam support not found on execution). Upon

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:49:03 +0200 Polytropon articulated: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:30:00 -0400, Jerry wrote: I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that either the regular contributors do not

Re: when compile,gcc can not work?

2011-07-18 Thread Lowell Gilbert
jyl_2006 yilinjing2...@gmail.com writes: For some reason,I want to compile the source code of mozilla,so i can not use port. Then you need to have more knowledge of what you're doing than the ports system requires. It looks like it's the configure script that fails, but you have shown very

Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64

2011-07-18 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:38:22AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:19:13 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: If you know of another tex project where teTeX fails, please send me the details. I'm keen to patch teTeX as far as possible with no major changes to TDS, i.e. just

how to fix bad superblock

2011-07-18 Thread DA Forsyth
Hiya all After a hardrive let the smoke out last week, part of a 4 drive RAID array, I am now battling to get back into the array. I have replaced the bad drive and it has been rebuilt (Intel Matrix Raid on the motherboard). some partitions are ok but had lots of errors fsck fixed, others

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Frank Shute
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 01:49:03PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:30:00 -0400, Jerry wrote: I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that either the regular contributors do not

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:57:59 -0400, Jerry wrote: There are so many fundamental problems with the standards concept. For starters it limits or prevents basic product improvement or development. It the wireless A protocol were to have been made a standard then improvement on its deficiencies

Re: groff UTF-8

2011-07-18 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:49:39PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, In the '90 I have used for a lot of my internal and external papers and letter the groff suite (gtbl, groff, ...) with good results. I've now a project where it would fit really nicely. It's making (Postscript or

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth per...@pluto.rain.com on Monday, 18 July 2011: Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote: I hope gnome does [go Linux-only].. Maybe then more people would forget about it and focus on making

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:51:55 +0100 Frank Shute articulated: I like Jerry's proposal. The FreeBSD Foundation should organise their donations page so that you can donate to various different areas of development like TUG do: https://www.tug.org/donate.html It should be at least split into

Am I Missing A Compat Library?

2011-07-18 Thread Tim Daneliuk
I just ran pkg_libchk and got this: avahi-app-0.6.29: /usr/local/lib/libavahi-glib.so.1 misses libicui18n.so.46 As I've never seen this before, I'm unclear on what to do to remmediate. Ideas? -- Tim Daneliuk

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:10:30 -0400, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:51:55 +0100 Frank Shute articulated: I like Jerry's proposal. The FreeBSD Foundation should organise their donations page so that you can donate to various different areas of development like TUG do:

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:11:28 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: I just ran pkg_libchk and got this: avahi-app-0.6.29: /usr/local/lib/libavahi-glib.so.1 misses libicui18n.so.46 As I've never seen this before, I'm unclear on what to do to remmediate. Seems to originate from Unicode support. The

/usr/ports/textproc/flex port didn't replace existing flex install

2011-07-18 Thread Jeff Hamann
I'm running: FreeBSD freebsd-82-amd64.localdomain 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I need to update flex for building postgresql-9.0.3 from source. I installed the latest port (flex-2.5.35_4)

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

2011-07-18 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:11:28AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: I just ran pkg_libchk and got this: avahi-app-0.6.29: /usr/local/lib/libavahi-glib.so.1 misses libicui18n.so.46 As I've never seen this before, I'm unclear on what to do to remmediate. Have you updated your ports recently? The

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

2011-07-18 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 7/18/2011 11:23 AM, Roland Smith said this: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:11:28AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: I just ran pkg_libchk and got this: avahi-app-0.6.29: /usr/local/lib/libavahi-glib.so.1 misses libicui18n.so.46 As I've never seen this before, I'm unclear on what to do to

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

2011-07-18 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:35:33AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 7/18/2011 11:23 AM, Roland Smith said this: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:11:28AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: I just ran pkg_libchk and got this: avahi-app-0.6.29: /usr/local/lib/libavahi-glib.so.1 misses libicui18n.so.46

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 07/18/2011 06:50 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: The issue your talking about is actually caused by a fundamental flaw in *ALL* pure open source projects namely in return for the freedom to look at the code and stuff we give up market forces. Perhaps the benefits inherent in enriching the global

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

2011-07-18 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 7/18/2011 12:43 PM, Roland Smith said this: But I _don't_ get this linker error. Just a thought, but have a look at glib and dbus, and check that it is linked to the right libicu? ('ldd /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0' and 'ldd /usr/local/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2') If that is not the

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

2011-07-18 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 18), Tim Daneliuk said: On 7/18/2011 12:43 PM, Roland Smith said this: But I _don't_ get this linker error. Just a thought, but have a look at glib and dbus, and check that it is linked to the right libicu? ('ldd /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0' and 'ldd

Re: /usr/ports/textproc/flex port didn't replace existing flex install

2011-07-18 Thread Peter Boosten
On 18-7-2011 17:49, Jeff Hamann wrote: I'm running: FreeBSD freebsd-82-amd64.localdomain 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I need to update flex for building postgresql-9.0.3 from source.

Re: [freebsd-questions] Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Howard Jones ho...@thingy.com wrote: On 18/07/2011 11:14, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: Interesting - I'm in the process of switching our FreeBSD servers to Linux (Debian and CentOS), to get away from the packaging/ports mess :-) I've been spoilt by apt-get and

Re: [freebsd-questions] Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Howard Jones
On 18/07/2011 19:18, Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Howard Jones ho...@thingy.com mailto:ho...@thingy.com wrote: On 18/07/2011 11:14, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: Interesting - I'm in the process of switching our FreeBSD servers to Linux (Debian and CentOS),

FBSD 8.2 and USB Floppies

2011-07-18 Thread James Colannino
Hey everyone, I have a FBSD 8.2 install. I've been trying to mount DOS formatted floppy disks via a USB floppy drive, and have been getting the following error every time: cannot mount /dev/da0: invalid argument I was curious to see what would happen if I created a UFS filesystem on the

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Robison, Dave
Using primarily FreeBSD, and in fact, still FreeBSD 4.11 (we are in the process of upgrading to 8.x now), our systems moved well over 1.6 trillion dollars in business to business financial transactions last year. I'd hardly call that irrelevant. On 07/17/2011 04:10, Jerry wrote: While I

Re: FBSD 8.2 and USB Floppies

2011-07-18 Thread Pegasus Mc Cleaft
On Monday 18 July 2011 19:45:27 James Colannino wrote: newfs /dev/da0 It was successful. I then tried to mount the new filesystem (mount /dev/da0 /mnt), and got the same error: invalid argument. Does FBSD have a problem mounting USB floppy disks? It's not a big deal, as my other USB

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Arthur Barlow
Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:00:49 +0200 From: Jerome Herman jher...@dichotomia.fr Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: 4e242071.9050...@dichotomia.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Re: FBSD 8.2 and USB Floppies

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:57:02 +0100, Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote: On Monday 18 July 2011 19:45:27 James Colannino wrote: newfs /dev/da0 It was successful. I then tried to mount the new filesystem (mount /dev/da0 /mnt), and got the same error: invalid argument. Does FBSD have a problem

Re: FBSD 8.2 and USB Floppies

2011-07-18 Thread James Colannino
On 07/18/11 11:57, Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote: On Monday 18 July 2011 19:45:27 James Colannino wrote: newfs /dev/da0 It was successful. I then tried to mount the new filesystem (mount /dev/da0 /mnt), and got the same error: invalid argument. Does FBSD have a problem mounting USB floppy disks?

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Bill Tillman
From: per...@pluto.rain.com per...@pluto.rain.com To: jri...@gmail.com; cbergst...@pathscale.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon, July 18, 2011 9:05:47 AM Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Peter Vereshagin
Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me! 2011/07/18 12:26:08 -0700 Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : BT BT BT From: per...@pluto.rain.com per...@pluto.rain.com BT To: jri...@gmail.com; cbergst...@pathscale.com BT Cc:

RE: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Gary Gatten
snip I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc. Not just on the desktop, but servers as well. Supported versions of Linux such as RHEL, Suse, etc. seem

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:58:08 +0200 Polytropon articulated: Here the circle closes: Without STANDARDS, you wouldn't be able to view the digital pictures you took with a camera 10 years ago because the manufacturer decided to use a proprietary image format without any documentation, as you

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

2011-07-18 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 01:02:53PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 7/18/2011 12:43 PM, Roland Smith said this: But I _don't_ get this linker error. Just a thought, but have a look at glib and dbus, and check that it is linked to the right libicu? ('ldd /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0'

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

2011-07-18 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 7/18/2011 3:15 PM, Roland Smith said this: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 01:02:53PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 7/18/2011 12:43 PM, Roland Smith said this: But I _don't_ get this linker error. Just a thought, but have a look at glib and dbus, and check that it is linked to the right

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:44:15 -0500 Gary Gatten articulated: snip I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc. Not just on the desktop, but servers as

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:48:46 -0400, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:58:08 +0200 Polytropon articulated: Here the circle closes: Without STANDARDS, you wouldn't be able to view the digital pictures you took with a camera 10 years ago because the manufacturer decided to use a

RE: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On July 18, 2011 2:44:15 PM -0500 Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: snip I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc. Not just on the desktop, but

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Paul Schmehl
On 07/17/2011 04:10, Jerry wrote: While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather interesting post this morning. Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:22:45 -0400, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:44:15 -0500 Gary Gatten articulated: snip I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:32:25 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: In short, some people chase the newest shiniest thing. Others prefer to stick with what works. Often, the newest shiniest folks, after they've gained some wisdom, move to the other camp. So you could well see a resurgence of BSD as

Re: groff UTF-8

2011-07-18 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi Matthias Sorry, I cant help on the OCR, though I had a quick try eith /usr/ports/graphics/claraocr In the '90 I have used for a lot of my internal and external papers and letter the groff suite (gtbl, groff, ...) with good results. Me too. I still do. FYI here is my bsd make macro set

Using csup and -i switch

2011-07-18 Thread David Demelier
Hello, I updated all my ports recently but I have submitted a PR for audio/musicpd for a simple patch. I would like to update only my audio/musicpd on all my machines so I tried the following: markand@Groseille ~ $ sudo csup -i audio/musicpd /etc/ports-supfile Connected to 193.51.24.2

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 07/18/2011 01:32 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On July 18, 2011 2:44:15 PM -0500 Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: snip I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not much traction; OS/2, BeOS,

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Jerome Herman
On 18/07/2011 22:22, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:44:15 -0500 Gary Gatten articulated: snip I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc. Not just

Does 8.2 support USB 3.0?

2011-07-18 Thread Dennis Glatting
Sounds like a stupid question to me but I have three motherboards that aren't happy with USB 3.0 regardless of settings, including: * Gigabyte EX58-UD5, * ASUS Rampage III Extreme, and * ASUS Crosshair V Formula. Happy means a variety of things: * Sometimes it doesn't like my USB 3.0

Re: BSD: Relevant , Lennart Poettering Isn't Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Outback Dingo
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Jerome Herman jher...@dichotomia.frwrote: On 18/07/2011 22:22, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:44:15 -0500 Gary Gatten articulated: snip I've always been curious why Linux seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available

Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )

2011-07-18 Thread perryh
Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: snip specific suggestions re awk(1), file(1), find(1), grep(1), etc. All well and good for locating files of a certain format and/or with particular content, but it doesn't address the question of whether a specific copy is legal, i.e. did the user

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread perryh
Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: We are pleased to announce a call for project proposals. We will accept proposals until February 15th. Please read Project Proposal Procedures to find out what needs to be included in your proposal. *end quote* Is this not what you want? This

RE: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Gary Gatten
snip This may get me flamed (probably will) but I'm wondering what the relationship is between FreeBSD and PC-BSD? PERHAPS if they were to somehow join forces, share development load, etc. and unify the FreeBSD offerings under one roof; ie: PC-BSD and SERVER-BSD. I believe several flavors of

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Jerome Herman
On 19/07/2011 01:21, Gary Gatten wrote: snip This may get me flamed (probably will) but I'm wondering what the relationship is between FreeBSD and PC-BSD? PERHAPS if they were to somehow join forces, share development load, etc. and unify the FreeBSD offerings under one roof; ie: PC-BSD and

Re: BSD: Relevant , Lennart Poettering Isn't Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 18 July 2011 19:04:55 Outback Dingo wrote: Sorry Guys.. I just had to nail down the Subject Topic and correct it YEAH Thanks! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE)

RE: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Devin Teske
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robison, Dave Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:53 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore Using primarily

Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )

2011-07-18 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
perryh == perryh per...@pluto.rain.com writes: perryh All well and good for locating files of a certain format and/or perryh with particular content, but it doesn't address the question of perryh whether a specific copy is legal, i.e. did the user who put it perryh there have the legal right to

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi; First of all, forgive me for top posting but I don't want to disturb the debate between Jerry and Polytropon. In fact, I enjoyed it so much that I saved it in separate folder. It is just plain good reading, not only because of the issue at hand, but also because of the elegance and

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:31:41 +0200 Polytropon articulated: Your TV example is very good. I've recently read a text that predicts the future of CDs - a text from the late 80's. When we consider what we are _currently_ using, the text predicting no important future for CDs looks quite funny.

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Mario Lobo
Hi; First of all, forgive me for top posting but I don't want to disturb the debate between Jerry and Polytropon. In fact, I enjoyed it so much that I saved it in separate folder. It is just plain good reading, not only because of the issue at hand, but also because of the elegance and

FreeBSD 8.2 Xorg and Raedon HD 6850

2011-07-18 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I read the information on FreeBSD.org about the 6850 and I think I am confused. I have an HP Envy 3D 17 laptop with this video adapter. First, it appears there may be limited support for this card. The bottom line seems to be Try Radeon Driver then the Vesa Driver. On the Xorg site, there is a

Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )

2011-07-18 Thread Robert Bonomi
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:01:53 -0700 From: per...@pluto.rain.com Subject: Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc ) Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: snip specific suggestions re awk(1), file(1), find(1), grep(1), etc. All well and good for locating files of a

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 04:22:45PM -0400, Jerry wrote: I think the explanation is rather simple, Give the user what he wants, not what you think he wants. You are never going to satisfy every conceivable user, so concentrate on the core users. Microsoft has done that extremely well. On the

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Robert Bonomi
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:01:20 -0400 From: Jerry je...@seibercom.net Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:31:41 +0200 Polytropon articulated: Your TV example is very good. I've recently read a text that predicts the future of CDs - a text

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