On 14 February 2011 23:55, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 03:32:30PM -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:
From what I understand (a quick review of wikipedia helps :), modern
flash cards are now typically rated for 100K writes, include ECC bits
to actually correct or at
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 22:10:47 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
But for users who do not wish to learn anything ...
the Microsoft Way fits the bill.
^
Of course. It's his company. But does it fit anyone
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
Agreed. I posted my short experience of using an SSD as a workstation
drive and I'd be interested in hearing the experience of any other
users. Problems? Praise? Let's hear it.
While not quite a workstation application, in
Hi--
On Feb 14, 2011, at 3:17 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
I would be curious to hear stories from people who actually *have* run
into SSD failures related to write limitations. I've heard a lot of
speculation but no actual anecdotes. I'm sure they're out there; but
I also know people are more
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 03:32:30PM -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:
From what I understand (a quick review of wikipedia helps :), modern
flash cards are now typically rated for 100K writes, include ECC bits
to actually correct or at least detect errors and try to remap bad
blocks to unused blocks,
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
I fail to understand why manufacturers would let people install SSDs on
machines when their life is so much in question.
I fail to see why a
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:53:18AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
You'd surely be happier with a better OS on it, though -- right?
Chad, on the Desktop, I'd rather run the ratware from Redmond than try
FreeBSD!
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:23:53 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com articulated:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:53:18AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
wrote:
You'd surely be happier with a better OS on it, though -- right?
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more than a poor
clone of Office 97. The newly released libreoffice might be usable
someday; however, it is now only in
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
Bloat is a purely subjective term.
It's not.
What one user considers bloat
could very well be a requirement for another use. For example, while
you might consider it bloat to have drivers for modern wireless N
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
For some, Office is unusable due to the new Ribbon interface and
libreoffice is the usable office suite due to its familiar menus.
Users who have already used PCs are familiar with the menu
technique of functionality
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk articulated:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more than a poor
clone of Office 97.
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:58:05 -0500, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk articulated:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
has
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:58:05 -0500
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
New, as in four years old? That is one of the worst straw man
arguments I have heard in a while. In any case, In 2008
OpenOffice.org started the project Renaissance to improve the user
interface of OpenOffice. So far
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 07:38:01AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
Bloat is a purely subjective term. What one user considers bloat
could very well be a requirement for another use. For example, while
you might consider it bloat to have drivers for modern wireless N
protocol cards, many other users have
So... how about those solid state drives... yup.
-Modulok-
On 2/13/11, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 07:38:01AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
Bloat is a purely subjective term. What one user considers bloat
could very well be a requirement for another use. For example,
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:58:05AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk articulated:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
has spewed for over 10
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:58:05AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk articulated:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:42:54 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
There's no use pretending MS Windows never has issues with the
efficacy of its autoconfiguration. Most of us have used that OS
quite a lot, and know that problems arise -- and that, unlike with
open source OSes, it's
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
people with first-hand experience in running such setup.
- Max
Agreed. I posted my short
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
people with
On 13.02.2011 19:50, Adam Vande More wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like
Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 13 February 2011:
OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice offer functionality MS Office does not,
just as MS Office offers functionality they do not. Different people
have different needs, and those office suites serve slightly different
needs. On the other hand,
Quoth Bruce Cran on Sunday, 13 February 2011:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:42:54 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
There's no use pretending MS Windows never has issues with the
efficacy of its autoconfiguration. Most of us have used that OS
quite a lot, and know that problems
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
people with first-hand experience in running such setup.
Perhaps responding to the FreeBSD
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:29:15AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
But for users who do not wish to learn anything and who want to use
their computer the same way they use their DVD player or their electric
toothbrush, the Microsoft Way fits the bill.
I think you're being too kind to the
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:10:26AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
Hey, I just found out that libreoffice can open all those old .WRI files
that MS Office no longer recognizes! Thanks for the tip!
My pleasure.
I bet it doesn't have the old Windows Write memory leak, either -- which,
by the way,
Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
But for users who do not wish to learn anything ...
the Microsoft Way fits the bill.
^
Of course. It's his company. But does it fit anyone else?
;-)
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On 11 Feb 2011 at 13:33, Adam Vande More wrote:
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
wrote:
Ignoring the TRIM issue for a moment . . .
You're probably best off saving SSD storage for cases where you have
lots of reads and little to no write activity,
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk wrote:
Define a *lot*. If you look up the spec's on the common (currently)
available SSD systems, it's only in the 10's of 1000's writes. Pittiful
compared to magnetic media.
Chances are on many setups, by the time you've
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk wrote:
Define a *lot*. If you look up the spec's on the common (currently)
available SSD systems, it's only in the 10's of 1000's writes. Pittiful
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk wrote:
Define a *lot*. If you look up the spec's on the common (currently)
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:54:19 +, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
Should I stop and buy a SATA disk?:)
No you shouldn't but you should run FreeBSD on it ;)
What else should one run?! ;-)
All I know is that
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
I fail to understand why manufacturers would let people install SSDs on
machines when their life is so much in question.
I fail to see why a manufacturer would *not* want your hardware to wear
out faster, since that would
Hi,
Is anyone using SSD drives on freeBSD server systems?
I'm attracted by the performance increases i've seen on both my desktops
and laptops (quite amazing and easy upgrade if you've not tried)..
I see from here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM#Operating_system_and_SSD_support
Nothing to do oh, freebsd-questions stay in bat!
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PM I'd be interested to here peoples opinions on best uses for SSD, general
PM purpose applications such as databases , webservers etc will benefit
PM
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:40:37AM +, Paul Macdonald wrote:
I'd be interested to here peoples opinions on best uses for SSD, general
purpose applications such as databases , webservers etc will benefit
obviously,
but i'm also curious as to disk intensive applications such as
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
Ignoring the TRIM issue for a moment . . .
You're probably best off saving SSD storage for cases where you have lots
of reads and little to no write activity, unless you enjoy buying new
SSDs a lot. Actually, let's not
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