the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy
protection
product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the user
cannot touch it,
a format will not erase it, and Norton Ghost will not find it.
a if you invent such copy protection, be sure that it will get
broken
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 09:26:08 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary W. Swearingen) wrote:
Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Where does HPA(Host protected Area) sit in all this? is this the
'boot sector' trick?
I don't know. I just heard that some computer makers are somehow
reserving
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the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy protection
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On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 11:55:18AM -0700, Joe S wrote
Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
Jonathon McKitrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. Any idea where this info could be stored?
The obvious place is the end of the first track between the boot
sector(s) and the first partition. But that's probably too easy and
well-known. As others have noted, Unix
Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Where does HPA(Host protected Area) sit in all this? is this the
'boot sector' trick?
I don't know. I just heard that some computer makers are somehow
reserving as much as half the HDD for a full copy of the OS to recover
from when the normal one
On 10/6/05, Gary W. Swearingen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Where does HPA(Host protected Area) sit in all this? is this the
'boot sector' trick?
I don't know. I just heard that some computer makers are somehow
reserving as much as half the HDD for
Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Where does HPA(Host protected Area) sit in all this? is this the
'boot sector' trick?
I don't know. I just heard that some computer makers are somehow
reserving as much as half the HDD for a full copy of the OS to recover
from when the
Joe S wrote:
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy protection
product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the user cannot
touch it,
a format will not erase it, and Norton Ghost will not find it.
1. Any idea where this info could be
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 07:44:37PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy protection
product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the user cannot touch it,
a format will not erase it, and Norton Ghost will not find it.
1. Any
What is the software called? Let somebody research it from there. Or dload
the prog and crack it open wit Ida...
-Josh
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the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy protection
product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the user cannot touch it,
a format will not erase it, and Norton Ghost will not find it.
1. Any idea where this info could be stored?
2. Any way the same thing could be
On Oct 5, 2005, at 12:44 PM, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy
protection
product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the user cannot
touch it,
a format will not erase it, and Norton Ghost will not find it.
If the product can
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy protection
product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the user cannot touch it,
a format will not erase it, and Norton Ghost will not find it.
1. Any idea where this info could be stored?
2. Any
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 11:55:18AM -0700, Joe S wrote:
: Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
: the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy protection
: product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the user cannot touch
: it,
: a format will not erase it, and Norton Ghost will not
: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/zero
:
: Will overwrite the entire drive.
I thought that value of 'of' is device on which the drive is.
Reads from /dev/zero give zeroes and writes to it do nothing.
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On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 11:55:18AM -0700, Joe S wrote:
: Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
: the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy protection
: product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the user cannot touch
: it,
: a format will not erase it, and Norton Ghost will not
I seem to remember some software put it's license key in the boot sector
(this was way back when and I might be not remembering correctly). But
even that can be read using dd... not sure how I'd do it with windows,
but I'm sure it's possible.
It's impossible with Windows NT, but possible
Jonathon McKitrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. Any idea where this info could be stored?
The obvious place is the end of the first track between the boot
sector(s) and the first partition. But that's probably too easy and
well-known. As others have noted, Unix (eg, dd) has easy access to
On Wednesday 05 October 2005 01:44 pm, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy protection
product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the [1] user cannot
touch it, [2] a format will not erase it, [3] and Norton Ghost will not find
it.
On 10/6/05, Kirk Strauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 05 October 2005 01:44 pm, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
the company where I work (with Windows) is evaluating a copy protection
product that stores info somewhere on the HDD where the [1] user cannot
touch it, [2] a format will not
I wanted to say what Kirk has said well. As a customer, if a company
is going to overbearingly copy-protect software i'll look for an
alternative. I understand a license number and maybe a key
generator, even a dial-in check to some home server. Dongles stink
but I have used software
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