Re: warning: total configured swap (8960911 pages) exceeds maximum recommended amount (8243200 pages).

2013-10-17 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 17/10/2013 17:01, RW wrote: On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:27:49 +0100 Frank Leonhardt wrote: On 17/10/2013 15:04, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I'm using a 72gb swap disk. I've 10gb RAM I get this warning: warning: total configured swap (8960911 pages) exceeds maximum recommended amount (8243200

Re: firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, October 14, 2013 a las 08:54:56AM +0200, O. Hartmann escribió: After the last major update of www/firefox to version 23 firefox rejects of moving/swapping the tabs. They are static now. I do not know whether this has to do with the great pixman update, because coincidentally

Re: Reinstall without reformat

2013-10-14 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 23:01:02 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:24:30 -0400, Kenta Suzumoto wrote: Hi all. Is it possible to install FreeBSD without

Re: firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread O. Hartmann
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:50:48 +0200 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: El día Monday, October 14, 2013 a las 08:54:56AM +0200, O. Hartmann escribió: After the last major update of www/firefox to version 23 firefox rejects of moving/swapping the tabs. They are static now. I do not

Re: firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, October 14, 2013 a las 10:23:49AM +0200, O. Hartmann escribió: I have a 10-CURRENT r255948 from October 1st, with all ports from head too, rev. r328930. FF is version 24.0 in the r328930 ports and the tabs can be moved fine with drag and drop. HIH matthias

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Michael Powell
David Demelier wrote: Hello there, I'm writing because after a power failure I was unable to log in on my FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE. The SU+J journal were executed correctly but some files disappeared, including /etc/pwd.db. Thus I was unable to log in. I've been able to regenerate the

Re: Authorisation Errors on 9.2

2013-10-14 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 14/10/2013 06:37, Beeblebrox wrote: Hi, I Inadvertently posted the gnome-keyring bit. That's almost standard error message on FreeBSD-Gnome. The relevant bit for the error is in fact: slim: gkr-pam: no password is available for user However, the user cannot login on a tty without providing a

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Michael Powell
Michael Powell wrote: [snip] The other box is my first foray into the land of GPT, along with SU+J. It was sitting at the 'couldn't mount... Press return for /bin/sh' line. There was an error indicating that replaying one or more journals had failed. I was able to successfully fsck all the

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread RW
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 05:02:22 -0400 Michael Powell wrote: David Demelier wrote: Hello there, I'm writing because after a power failure I was unable to log in on my FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE. The SU+J journal were executed correctly but some files disappeared, including /etc/pwd.db. Thus I

Re: Reinstall without reformat

2013-10-14 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 23:01:02 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:24:30 -0400, Kenta Suzumoto wrote: Hi all. Is it possible to install FreeBSD without formatting the disk? Yes. The installer

Re: firefox: after update - version 23: can not swap tabs

2013-10-14 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, O. Hartmann wrote: FF is in my case 24, too: pkg info firefox firefox-24.0,1 Have you done updating the ports regarding 20130929 in /usr/ports/UPDATING? I did on all boxes and on all boxes I did the tab-stickyness is present. Firefox 24 allows tab moves for me on both

Re: Reinstall without reformat

2013-10-14 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 07:51:15 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: It is possible to mount filesystems manually from the shell and have bsdinstall continue with the install without formatting them. It's been a while since I tried that, and I don't recall the exact details. bsdinstall(8)

Re: Reinstall without reformat

2013-10-14 Thread Michael Sierchio
The brutal and brute-force approach can work - better if you boot from a USB stick, of course. You can untar base.tzx and kernel.tzx in your /, with filesystems mounted. As Polytropon says, do a backup of what you'll want afterwards. This approach will leave a lot of cruft (old versions of

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread David Demelier
On 14.10.2013 14:39, RW wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 05:02:22 -0400 Michael Powell wrote: David Demelier wrote: Hello there, I'm writing because after a power failure I was unable to log in on my FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE. The SU+J journal were executed correctly but some files disappeared,

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread CeDeROM
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file system to ensure that any bad shutdown will protect data? On GNU/Linux, on Windows you will not require anything else to recover your data.

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.comwrote: Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file system to ensure that any bad shutdown will protect data? As already stated, those measures are to preserve fs integrity eg meta data is in

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread CeDeROM
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.comwrote: Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file system to ensure that any bad shutdown will protect data? As

Re: Tuning /etc/sysctl.conf

2013-10-14 Thread Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina
Mmm... just a correction in /etc/sysctl.conf, it seems that by mistake I've copied a website link into the file. Sorry, it was a copy-paste error :) % cat /etc/sysctl.conf # $FreeBSD: release/9.2.0/etc/sysctl.conf 112200 2003-03-13 18:43:50Z mux $ # # This file is read when going to multi-user

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:50 AM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote: Then why random files gets damaged as well even they are not accessed/written on power loss? :-) Prove they weren't. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread CeDeROM
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:50 AM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote: Then why random files gets damaged as well even they are not accessed/written on power loss? :-) Prove they weren't. Hmm, maybe /etc/pwd.db as David

Re: Tuning /etc/sysctl.conf

2013-10-14 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:35:49 +0200 Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina cjpug...@gmail.com wrote: Hi people, I'm very interested to tuning /etc/sysctl.conf according to the specifications of my PC. As a general rule it is more appropriate to think of tuning in terms of the workload you intend

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Brad Mettee
On 10/14/2013 12:50 PM, CeDeROM wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.comwrote: Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file system to ensure that any

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread CeDeROM
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Brad Mettee bmet...@pchotshots.com wrote: On 10/14/2013 12:50 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Then why random files gets damaged as well even they are not accessed/written on power loss? :-) Random files can be affected because the sectors of the hard disk containing the

Re: Tuning /etc/sysctl.conf

2013-10-14 Thread Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina
Hi Steve, I use it as a paticular desktop PC. Well, if you need more details about it, please, let me know. What do you think about current tuning? Thanks --CJPM 2013/10/14 Carlos Jacobo Puga Medina cjpug...@gmail.com Mmm... just a correction in /etc/sysctl.conf, it seems that by mistake

Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-14 Thread aurfalien
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Bruce Cran
On 10/14/2013 6:16 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Isn't there Journal to prevent and reverse such damage? Unlike other journaling filesystems, UFS+J only protects the metadata, not the data itself - i.e. I think it ensures you won't have to run a manual fsck, but just like plain old UFS files may be

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread RW
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:34:36 +0200 David Demelier wrote: On 14.10.2013 14:39, RW wrote: If you are having problems with data integrity you might try gjournal or zfs instead. Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file system to ensure that any bad shutdown

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Scott Ballantyne
Hi, I'm following the recipe at the end of man portmaster for deleting and reinstalling all my ports, which I have done many times in the past. This time, I am getting errors on the portmaster -Faf step involving deleted ports, and I'm not sure how to deal with this easily. What

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread CeDeROM
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On 10/14/2013 6:16 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Isn't there Journal to prevent and reverse such damage? Unlike other journaling filesystems, UFS+J only protects the metadata, not the data itself - i.e. I think it ensures you won't

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Bruce Cran
On 10/14/2013 7:33 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Thank you for explaining :-) So it looks that it would be sensible to force filesystem check every n-th mount..? Or to do a filesystem check after crash..? Are there any flags like that to mark filesystem unclean and to force fsck after n-th mount? That

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote: Thank you for explaining :-) So it looks that it would be sensible to force filesystem check every n-th mount..? Please explain the logic in which this helps anything. Or to do a filesystem check after crash..? Already

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: mount -o sync should be mount sync -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Charles Swiger
On Oct 14, 2013, at 11:33 AM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On 10/14/2013 6:16 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Isn't there Journal to prevent and reverse such damage? Unlike other journaling filesystems, UFS+J only protects the

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread CeDeROM
Thank you all for good hints! This will come handy! :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Bruce Cran wrote: On 10/14/2013 6:16 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Isn't there Journal to prevent and reverse such damage? Unlike other journaling filesystems, UFS+J only protects the metadata, not the data itself - i.e. I think it ensures you won't have to run a manual fsck,

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread RW
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:48:18 -0700 Charles Swiger wrote: Yes. Without journalling, you'd normally perform the full timeconsuming fsck in the foreground. Journalling removes the need for the background fsck which only recovers lost space. With journalling, it should be able to do a

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Michael Powell
Charles Swiger wrote: [snip] Yes. Without journalling, you'd normally perform the full timeconsuming fsck in the foreground. With journalling, it should be able to do a journal replay to restore the filesystem to an OK state, but sometimes that doesn't restore consistency, in which case

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread RW
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:48:18 -0700 Charles Swiger wrote: fsck_y_enable=YES One of the most annoying things about SU+J is that fsck asks if you want to use the journal. So fsck -y wont do a proper check unless the journal replay fails. ___

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: I'm following the recipe at the end of man portmaster for deleting and reinstalling all my ports, which I have done many times in the past. This time, I am getting errors on the portmaster -Faf step involving deleted ports, and I'm not sure how to

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread David Demelier
On 14.10.2013 20:08, RW wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:34:36 +0200 David Demelier wrote: On 14.10.2013 14:39, RW wrote: If you are having problems with data integrity you might try gjournal or zfs instead. Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file system to

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread David Demelier
On 14.10.2013 18:47, Adam Vande More wrote: There is no *warranty* as explicitly stated in http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html Aha, please don't play on words ;-). I think you understood I was speaking about the filesystem state not a lawyer issue.

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread David Demelier
On 14.10.2013 20:43, Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl mailto:cede...@tlen.pl wrote: Thank you for explaining :-) So it looks that it would be sensible to force filesystem check every n-th mount..? Please explain the logic in which

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Charles Swiger
Hi-- On Oct 14, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: This discussion skirts the critical issue - are files that are not open for writing endangered? No description of the uses of journaling can be considered informative if it doesn't address that explicitly. As a naive

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-14 Thread Charles Swiger
On Oct 14, 2013, at 12:41 PM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:48:18 -0700 Charles Swiger wrote: Yes. Without journalling, you'd normally perform the full timeconsuming fsck in the foreground. Journalling removes the need for the background fsck which only

Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?

2013-10-14 Thread Da Rock
On 10/13/13 17:38, Thomas Mueller wrote: On the question of playing Adobe Flash in FreeBSD, could one use the MS-Windows 32-bit version with (i386-)Wine? I plan to try that. Apparently that won't solve much. The primary issue now with watching flash movies is the drm - on linux it somehow

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Scott Ballantyne
On Mon, 14 oct 2013, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: What errors, exactly? Well, for example: portmaster -Faf it starts to fetch a bunch of files it finds a port which has been deleted, such as linux-base-fc4 and it says,

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Scott Ballantyne s...@ssr.com wrote: I understand why portmaster quits that port. Because it has no choice. It does seem like a bit of over-kill to quit updating ALL ports because one is long gone. Seems like it could do the others. So it should

Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-14 Thread aurfalien
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: On Mon, 14 oct 2013, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: What errors, exactly? Well, for example: portmaster -Faf it starts to fetch a bunch of files it finds a port which has been deleted, such

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Scott Ballantyne
Adam Vande More wrote: It does seem like a bit of over-kill to quit updating ALL ports because one is long gone. Seems like it could do the others. So it should continue on and potentially build 1000's of ports with broken linking and dependencies? Portupgrade will do this if you

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Scott Ballantyne
On Mon 14 Oct 2013 Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: On Mon, 14 oct 2013, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: Actually, the last time I updated my ports was when I installed 9.0, and I used the

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Scott Ballantyne s...@ssr.com wrote: Adam Vande More wrote: It does seem like a bit of over-kill to quit updating ALL ports because one is long gone. Seems like it could do the others. So it should continue on and potentially build 1000's of

Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?

2013-10-13 Thread Thomas Mueller
On the question of playing Adobe Flash in FreeBSD, could one use the MS-Windows 32-bit version with (i386-)Wine? I plan to try that. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-13 Thread CeDeROM
On 13 Oct 2013 11:30, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there, I'm writing because after a power failure I was unable to log in on my FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE. The SU+J journal were executed correctly but some files disappeared, including /etc/pwd.db. Thus I was unable to log in.

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-13 Thread David Demelier
On 13.10.2013 12:16, CeDeROM wrote: On 13 Oct 2013 11:30, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com mailto:demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there, I'm writing because after a power failure I was unable to log in on my FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE. The SU+J journal were executed correctly but some

Re: Is it possible to suspend to disk with geli+Root on ZFS installation

2013-10-13 Thread Ian Smith
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:17:20 +1000, yudi v wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au wrote: In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 486, Issue 7, Message: 5 On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 16:25:33 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:37:55PM

Re: APC BE750G Power Saving Battery Back-UPS

2013-10-13 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013, Carmel wrote: I have the opportunity to replace an aging UPS with a new APC BE750G Power Saving Battery Back-UPS one. My question is if anyone here has ever used this device under FreeBSD. APC does not have, or at least I couldn't find any, software for a FreeBSD system.

Re: Authorisation Errors on 9.2

2013-10-13 Thread Frank Leonhardt
On 13/10/2013 18:08, Beeblebrox wrote: I have two strange errors but I am not sure whether they are related. ERROR-1: Slim allows login without checking for password. /var/log/auth.log shows: Oct 13 11:44:57: slim: gkr-pam: no password is available for user Oct 13 11:44:57:

Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure

2013-10-13 Thread Thomas Mueller
On 13.10.2013 12:16, CeDeROM wrote: On 13 Oct 2013 11:30, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com mailto:demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there, I'm writing because after a power failure I was unable to log in on my FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE. The SU+J journal were executed correctly but

Re: Adoble Flash troubles on 9.2-RELEASE

2013-10-13 Thread Da Rock
On 10/12/13 20:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 11:52 +0200, David Demelier wrote: I don't like much chrome but I'll give a try to see. +1 It's not a browser I like. Since I'm using my computer for audio production my FreeBSD isn't maintained, I need to use Linux, so I don't know

Re: Reinstall without reformat

2013-10-13 Thread Polytropon
directory except that (/bin /boot etc), but how could I install the OS from there? You simply re-enter the installer, assign the (existing, but now empty) partitions to the desired mountpoint, make sure _not_ to newfs them, and then commit to the installation as usual. An alternative would

Re: Advice sought on Portmaster -Faf and deleted ports

2013-10-13 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013, Scott Ballantyne wrote: Hi, I'm following the recipe at the end of man portmaster for deleting and reinstalling all my ports, which I have done many times in the past. This time, I am getting errors on the portmaster -Faf step involving deleted ports, and I'm not sure how

Re: Reinstall without reformat

2013-10-13 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 23:01:02 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:24:30 -0400, Kenta Suzumoto wrote: Hi all. Is it possible to install FreeBSD without formatting the disk? Yes. The installer supports not formatting existing

Re: Adoble Flash troubles on 9.2-RELEASE

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
If you really need to visit sites that need Adobe Flash, you perhaps should use the google-chrome browser. For some websites with flash content, we don't need flash anymore, just modern HTML5 capable web browsers. For *nix there never will be a current version for flashplayer again.

Re: Adoble Flash troubles on 9.2-RELEASE

2013-10-12 Thread David Demelier
On 12.10.2013 11:02, Ralf Mardorf wrote: If you really need to visit sites that need Adobe Flash, you perhaps should use the google-chrome browser. For some websites with flash content, we don't need flash anymore, just modern HTML5 capable web browsers. For *nix there never will be a current

Re: Adoble Flash troubles on 9.2-RELEASE

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 11:52 +0200, David Demelier wrote: I don't like much chrome but I'll give a try to see. +1 It's not a browser I like. Since I'm using my computer for audio production my FreeBSD isn't maintained, I need to use Linux, so I don't know if Chrome is available for FreeBSD. When

Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?

2013-10-12 Thread Walter Hurry
databases, LaTeX, translators, and other surprising stuff. This will probably apply to most complex components and parts of desktop environments or X11 toolkits (as mentioned above). As I mentioned, the librsvg2 port will install lib/librsvg-2.so. It might require you to re-install your target

Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Felder
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI firmware issue. What are the firmwares for those HBAs?

Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?

2013-10-12 Thread gct7photography
I don't know what others think, but what *I* really want is that the free software versions of Flash (gnash and klash, etc) work at least as well as versions of Adobe Flash do, or if versions of Adobe Flash are to be used, that it will be free and covered by the GPL. Its unlikely to happen unless

Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-12 Thread aurfalien
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI

Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS

2013-10-12 Thread aurfalien
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI

Re: what kind of freeBSD to download for my pc?

2013-10-12 Thread cikitaluzza
can i run exe files on freeBSD?it spoils fast or not?this question comes from fastest ever spoil OS windows which always spoil in a week seven times i think with things like errors or dll and many things from blue screen.do you have any problems within freeBSD or no problems?i dont like blue

Re: what kind of freeBSD to download for my pc?

2013-10-12 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:44:09 -0700 (PDT), cikitaluzza wrote: what kind of freeBSD to download for my pc?amd athlon(tm) 64 x2 dual core processor 4000+ 2.11 GHz 960 MB RAM Try 9.2 for AMD64. The i386 version should also work (as you are low on RAM if that might matter, depending on what non-OS

Re: what kind of freeBSD to download for my pc?

2013-10-12 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:50:32 -0700 (PDT), cikitaluzza wrote: can i run exe files on freeBSD? Depends. VMX EXE files may work via the SimH emulator. For DOS EXE and Windows EXE files, there are dosbox and wine. Those compatibility packs can be easily installed. They are not part of the OS. it

Re: what kind of freeBSD to download for my pc?

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 16:50 -0700, cikitaluzza wrote: can i run exe files on freeBSD? The raw answer is, no, you can't. it spoils fast or not?this question comes from fastest ever spoil OS windows which always spoil in a week seven times i think with things like errors or dll and many things

Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?

2013-10-12 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:28:40 +0100, gct7photogra...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know what others think, but what *I* really want is that the free software versions of Flash (gnash and klash, etc) work at least as well as versions of Adobe Flash do, or if versions of Adobe Flash are to be used,

Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-10-13 at 04:48 +0200, Polytropon wrote: Let's hope people are going to get smarter than I assume. :-) It's new, not even 100 years old. Within our lifetimes people likely become more stupid, but yes, it will take some generations and people will get smarter.

Re: Is it possible to suspend to disk with geli+Root on ZFS installation

2013-10-12 Thread yudi v
MSRs are not restored [1]. [1]: https://wiki.freebsd.org/SuspendResume Roland, sorry, no; you (and that page) are talking about Suspend to RAM, ACPI state S3. What you've said is correct re Suspend to RAM - though some running amd64 have achieved some success on some machines lately

Re: what kind of freeBSD to download for my pc?

2013-10-12 Thread Polytropon
Typo warning! On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 03:26:45 +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:50:32 -0700 (PDT), cikitaluzza wrote: can i run exe files on freeBSD? Depends. VMX EXE files may work via the SimH emulator. For ^^^ DOS EXE and Windows EXE files, there are dosbox and

Re: what kind of freeBSD to download for my pc?

2013-10-12 Thread Bernt Hansson
On 2013-10-13 01:50, cikitaluzza wrote: can i run exe files on freeBSD? Yes, but the files are not called exe files. it spoils fast or not? Google translate? do you have any problems within freeBSD Yes. how much total ram and bit is my pc of amd athlon(tm) 64 x2 dual core processor 4000+

Re: Q: Updating a port (math:asymptote)

2013-10-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 19:14 +0300, Jarmo Hurri wrote: I would like to switch from Linux to FreeBSD, but am puzzled by the timeliness of the ports. In particular, I use a drawing program called asymptote quite heavily in my work. From the ports page I noticed that the ports version is

Re: 9.1 VM nfs3 locks over VPN

2013-10-11 Thread Rick Romero
Update - I've install a 9.1 VM locally, and I don't have the lock issue. I've also allowed access straight over the internet, and locks don't work. Now the non-working VM is not pristine like the test VM, but even so the kernels appear to match based on uname,so I'm guessing it's a problem with

Re: Q: Updating a port (math:asymptote)

2013-10-11 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:14:48 +0300 Jarmo Hurri jarmo.hu...@syk.fi wrote: Greetings. I would like to switch from Linux to FreeBSD, but am puzzled by the timeliness of the ports. In particular, I use a drawing program called The extent to which any given port is kept up to date

Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?

2013-10-11 Thread Glenn Sieb
On 10/11/13 5:38 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: FreeBSD 9.1 I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? Actually I think you

Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?

2013-10-11 Thread Polytropon
. This will probably apply to most complex components and parts of desktop environments or X11 toolkits (as mentioned above). As I mentioned, the librsvg2 port will install lib/librsvg-2.so. It might require you to re-install your target application to link against that library. A library libsvg.so (without version

Re: Q: Updating a port (math:asymptote)

2013-10-11 Thread Jarmo Hurri
Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org writes: 2. Try to become a maintainer. How? Step one would be to try bringing the port up to date yourself, sometimes it is as easy as editing the Makefile, changing the version and running make makesum to update the checksums. Sometimes the

Re: Q: Updating a port (math:asymptote)

2013-10-11 Thread Jarmo Hurri
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net writes: Have you tested Debian's FreeBSD port? Debian GNU/kFreeBSD perhaps does provide a more current user space. https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD Hmm, I think I would prefer a distribution with a relatively large user base. The Wikipedia

Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12

2013-10-10 Thread Mark Felder
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 8:36, Eduardo Morras wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:32:39 -0600 (MDT) Mike Brown m...@skew.org wrote: alexus wrote: ok, I just did fetch install and got bumped from p5 to p9 # uname -a FreeBSD XX.X.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun

Re: Geli and ZFS

2013-10-10 Thread Terje Elde
On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:43 AM, yudi v yudi@gmail.com wrote: Generally, it's recommended to let ZFS manage the whole disk if possible, so I was wondering if the second option is better. I will be using couple of 3TB HDDs mirrored for data and want to encrypt them. IIRC, there is/was a major

Re: copying milllions of small files and millions of dirs

2013-10-10 Thread aurfalien
On Aug 15, 2013, at 11:46 PM, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:13:25AM -0700, aurfalien wrote: Is there a faster way to copy files over NFS? I would use find+cpio. This handles hard links, permissions, and in case of later runs, will not copy files if they already exist

Re: 4K vs 512byte sector drives on Seagate Constellation E.2

2013-10-10 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I've a Seagate constellation ES.2 which supports 4K sectors but diskinfo shows it as 512bytes; da0 512 3000592982016 5860533168 0 0 364801 255 63 I understand that Seagate ships these drives to be compatible with

Re: copying milllions of small files and millions of dirs

2013-10-10 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, aurfalien wrote: On Aug 15, 2013, at 11:46 PM, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:13:25AM -0700, aurfalien wrote: Is there a faster way to copy files over NFS? I would use find+cpio. This handles hard links, permissions, and in case of later runs, will

Re: Why no ls on DVD or livefs.iso?

2013-10-10 Thread W. D.
At 01:58 10/6/2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 01:29:19 -0500, W. D. wrote: Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. Very limited commands: ls: not found. Try /rescue/ls explicitely instead. Why? What good are these disks if they don't have the most basic of

Re: Why no ls on DVD or livefs.iso?

2013-10-10 Thread W. D.
At 08:47 10/6/2013, Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote: Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. Very limited commands: ls: not found. Why? What good are these disks if they don't have the most basic of commands? The emergency holographic shell was always very

Re: Why no ls on DVD or livefs.iso?

2013-10-10 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote: At 08:47 10/6/2013, Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote: Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line. Very limited commands: ls: not found. Why? What good are these disks if they don't have the most basic of commands? The emergency

Re: mpt problem on a Supermicro motherboard (FreeBSD 9.2 amd64)

2013-10-10 Thread Victor Sudakov
Victor Sudakov wrote: I have several Supermicro-based servers with the mpt RAID adapter: # mptutil show adapter mpt0 Adapter: Board Name: UNUSED Board Assembly: Chip Name: C1068E Chip Revision: UNUSED RAID Levels: none # The problem is, I cannot

Re: Why no ls on DVD or livefs.iso?

2013-10-10 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:45:58 -0500, W. D. wrote: Thanks, Polytropon. I couldn't get FrieSBIE to work. It's a rather old project, and as far as I know, it isn't being continued anymore. It should still support at least the CLI mode for most computers... (I have to admit that I'm still using it,

Re: NATD: net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept=1 vs firewall_type=OPEN

2013-10-10 Thread Michael Ross
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 04:38:45 +0200, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Handbook section 31.9 describes the setup of NAT. Section 31.9.3 suggests net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept=1 during the first attempts to setup a firewall and NAT gateway. Section 31.9.5 suggests I

Re: NATD: net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept=1 vs firewall_type=OPEN

2013-10-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Michael Ross g...@ross.cx wrote: ipfw always has one default rule, standard is [snip] Specifing firewall_type=OPEN gives you an additional rule Michael, Thank you that is exactly what I am seeing. Chris ___

Re: 9.1 - 9.2 upgrade

2013-10-09 Thread Doug Hardie
On 8 October 2013, at 16:40, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 11:20:40 -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: I tried downloading the src with: svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org/base/releng/9.2 /mnt/usr/src I didn't get Release 9.2. The first entry in UPDATING is:

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