Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-04-08 Thread Robert Huff
Michael P. Soulier writes: Might as well paint PLEASE KICK ME! and an arrow pointing down on your back I'm used to binary-package distributions that seem to try a lot harder to not break. I suppose that ports is evolving, and it used to be worse, so I shouldn't complain.

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-04-07 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/03/07 Robert Huff said: But I bet I'm not the only one who, once upon a time, happened to try portupgrade -arR or equivalent after forgetting to read UPDATING and ended up with more to do than I originally thought. Might as well paint PLEASE KICK ME! and an arrow pointing

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-30 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:19:47 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but with training my computer is teaching me what is right and what is not. I think. ... and I thought that's why I had stopped using Windows...hmmm ;) _ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome An

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-29 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:36:59 -0400 Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/03/07 RW said: The gettext upgrade is actually a good example of what portupgrade offers. With portupgrade the -rf option is advisable, but not essential, with portmaster, it's essential that the -r

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-29 Thread RW
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:15:53 -0400 Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:36:59 -0400 Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/03/07 RW said: The gettext upgrade is actually a good example of what portupgrade offers. With portupgrade the -rf option

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-29 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:40:05 +0100 RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Portmanager is really no better, the dependencies recorded in the package database are also recursive. The big problem with gettext was that a lot of port failed to build afterwards, leaving them with a missing library. I have

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-29 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:41:06 -0400 Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, I have never had a problem using 'portmanager' provided I used the '-p -f' flags. OPPS, should have been '-p -u' flags. -- Gerard signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-29 Thread RW
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:41:06 -0400 Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:40:05 +0100 RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Portmanager is really no better, the dependencies recorded in the package database are also recursive. The big problem with gettext was that a lot of

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:17:13 -0400 Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkgdb.php while I run it myself. I'm finding wonderful questions like Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 - p5-GSSAPI-0.24 (security/p5-GSSAPI):

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey
canonical diatribe on The Art of Pkgdb -F (a great thread title, BTW). Note also that it is nearly six years old, and that additional package-management tools have been proposed, created, and released to the public, and some may have already been EOL'ed and buried, but the rest of them aren't

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread RW
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:19:47 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously, as I am not about to batter you about the neck and head with the beam projecting from my eye (hold still, you've got a . . .), I can only suggest a decent cringepray manouver (as I execute from time to

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/03/07 Kevin Kinsey said: Here is a time-honored and rather canonical diatribe on The Art of Pkgdb -F (a great thread title, BTW). Note also that it is nearly six years old, and that additional package-management tools have been proposed, created, and released to the public, and some

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/03/07 RW said: The gettext upgrade is actually a good example of what portupgrade offers. With portupgrade the -rf option is advisable, but not essential, with portmaster, it's essential that the -r option is used, If it's not, or the upgrade fails to complete, you can end-up with not

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 28/03/07 Gerard Seibert said: You can run: portmanager -u -p -l That will rebuild all broken and or missing dependencies for all of your ports. How does it know what ports are installed? Originally, I thought that the pkgdb was that source of information, so if it was gone, how

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Joel Hatton
Hi, On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:34:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Now, I've been upgrading ports via portupgrade -R port as suggested in the handbook. As -R upgrades only those packages that require those supplied, and not those that it requires, would that cause it? Be careful with your

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 28/03/07, Joel Hatton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:34:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Now, I've been upgrading ports via portupgrade -R port as suggested in the handbook. As -R upgrades only those packages that require those supplied, and not those that it

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 28/03/07 Kevin Kinsey said: Here is a time-honored and rather canonical diatribe on The Art of Pkgdb -F (a great thread title, BTW). Note also that it is nearly six years old, and that additional package-management tools have been proposed, created, and released

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-28 Thread Robert Huff
Kevin Kinsey writes: But I bet I'm not the only one who, once upon a time, happened to try portupgrade -arR or equivalent after forgetting to read UPDATING and ended up with more to do than I originally thought. Might as well paint PLEASE KICK ME! and an arrow pointing down on

the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread Michael P. Soulier
I'm looking at http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkgdb.php while I run it myself. I'm finding wonderful questions like Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 - p5-GSSAPI-0.24 (security/p5-GSSAPI): p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] I must ask. How the hell am I supposed

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:17:13 -0400 Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkgdb.php while I run it myself. I'm finding wonderful questions like Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 - p5-GSSAPI-0.24 (security/p5-GSSAPI):

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread Josh Carroll
Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 - p5-GSSAPI-0.24 (security/p5-GSSAPI): p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] Well this one is pretty obvious. Look at what the stale dependency is, and what it's suggesting? :) Sometimes it can be less clear, though. You just

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Josh Carroll wrote: Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 - p5-GSSAPI-0.24 (security/ p5-GSSAPI): p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] Well this one is pretty obvious. Look at what the stale dependency is, and what it's suggesting? :)

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Tuesday 27 March 2007, Jeffrey Goldberg said: On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Josh Carroll wrote: Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 - p5-GSSAPI-0.24 (security/ p5-GSSAPI): p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] In this case the port p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 is

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread Garrett Cooper
Beech Rintoul wrote: On Tuesday 27 March 2007, Jeffrey Goldberg said: On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Josh Carroll wrote: Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 - p5-GSSAPI-0.24 (security/ p5-GSSAPI): p5-Geography-Countries-1.4 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] In this case the port

Re: the art of pkgdb -F

2007-03-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 27/03/07, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:17:13 -0400 Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkgdb.php while I run it myself. I'm finding wonderful questions like Stale dependency: p5-Authen-SASL-2.09 -