Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:34:06PM -0800, James Phillips typed: --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: This is actually the way UFS/FFS works too: when my system was crashing fairly regularly I was a bit surprised to find empty files after editing them. Also, I just verified that saving a file, rebooting, editing it again (with ee(1)) and powering off the system does still result in a zero length file being on disk. Ok, good to know. I saw UFS corruption once with frequent restarts, but assumed that was because the delayed filesystem checking never had a chance to run. Since I don't have a UPS I guess backups are doubly important. Note that finding an empty file you had just been editing before a crash is NOT UFS corruption. It's data loss, probably caused by softupdates, which guarantees filesystem consistency in the case of a crash, but it can sometimes be up to a minute behind in actually writing the data blocks to the disk. Ruben ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wanting to buy a laptop w/ FreeBSD, AND...
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:35:35 -0500, compc...@mail.com wrote: Hello - I found the?freebsd - hardware ?list.? Where is the freebsd-software list?? Check out FreeBSD's ports collection. From the project's main page, choose the shortcut ports on the right. http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html You can have a look at the many programs for FreeBSD either by logical or by alphabetical list. More than 20,000 ports are available. I would like to buy a new or dependable used laptop.?? You should check the laptop's specifications with FreeBSD hardware list, just to make sure everything is supported properly. Initially, most of my questions are concerning?software.?? I think you#re primarily refering to application software, not OS software in particular. For hardware, I would like a HP laptop, as?HP is my personal favorite.? I'm not a big fan of HP, but I'm sure they offer laptops that are compatible. I prefer WP5.1 as a word processor.? There has been a WordPerfect port for FreeBSD, but sadly... Port: editors/wordperfect Moved: Date: 2003-09-29 Reason: obsolete, sources pulled from the internet No chance you could use OpenOffice, which is quite the de-facto standard today? (By the way, I'm doing most writing stuff, i. e. letters, books, documentation and many more, with LaTeX.) I like to work on websites and to post to internet forums.?? Install a web browser that fits your needs. The most common choice would surely be Firefox, but there is Opera as well (my preferred browser), and many other good browsers for FreeBSD, such as Konqueror, or Epiphany. I want to be ?able to work with graphics, music, and videos, and to be able to watch movies (and TV). For graphics, there are various tools, such as Gimp (and Gimpshop), Krita, XFig or InkScape. For music, there's Amarok, XMMS, mplayer and mencoder (gmplayer and gmencoder respectively). You can access TV through the web, or by a TV tuner card (e. g. via the bktr driver) and the appropriate programs. I think using KDE or Gnome could be a good solution for you. Finally, I may suggest that you have a look at the PC-BSD project, which offers a preconfigured KDE environment and some additional stuff, and it is based on FreeBSD. Maybe that is what you're looking for? 1.)? Hewlett-Packard laptop? Possibly. 2.)? FreeBSD as a OS? Sure. 3.)? No MS?software or programs?? No need for that. ?4).? WordPerfect 5.1? Could be a problem to run it natively. 5.)? DOS partition? You can access DOS partitions via the mount_msdosfs command. 6.)? ? SBIE /FreeBSD ?live CD ??? The FreeSBIE live CD is very useful for diagnostics and checking hardware compatibility. But I don't know if this project is still maintained, and if they offer a FreeSBIE based on FreeBSD 8.0, the current production release. Alternatively, you can always use FreeBSD's live system CD, allthough it is not that comfortable as FreeSBIE. But it will be fine for diagnostics. 7.)? Computer Shops ? Complete question? :-) What are my options concerning WordPerfect 5.1...?? Would WP 5.1 run on FreeBSD?? You should check that. FreeBSD offers different means of emulating or supporting other operating systems. DOSBOX and DOSCMD, I think, are such tools. You could even try to run WP under wine (Windows emulator, allthough it is no emulator). Finally, there's the option of emulating a whole PC, installing DOS on it, and then running WP in this virtual PC. Or, would I need to run WP5.1 on a DOS partition?? That could be possible, but there's no need to create a DOS partition just to hold WP's files. If WP5.1 was on a DOS partition, could I readily move the WP text files to the internet browser, to easily post them onto internet websites and forums?? Assume you run WP under X in wine - it doesn't need to be on an own DOS partition, as I said -, you should be able to copy paste information from one window to another, e. g. from WP's program window into a browser window. Or, would I have to buy a new version of WordPerfect?? There was one of the newer versions that a person could run in a WP5.1 mode.??? I'm not even sure WP is sold anymore... if you can, switch to OpenOffice. Its standardized file format makes sure that you can access your information in the future. 7.)? Computer Shops ? My first contact is with a computer tech in Placerville, CA (El Dorado County) MACKENDRICK COMPUTERS = http://www.rmack3.com/main.htm ? He is very experienced w/ Linux, but not with FreeBSD.? This makes me believe that he should at least have some useful UNIX background knowledge. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to
Porting jsoncpp in FreeBSD
Hi, I want to know of any plans to port jsoncpp in FreeBSD. http://jsoncpp.sourceforge.net/ Thanks -Abhishek ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox 3.5 and Epiphany crashing since the GNOME 2.28 update
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 01:44:00AM -0500, Curly Brace wrote: Hi all, I'm on 8.0/amd64, and my GNOME 2.28 update went off with no problems, but now Firefox 3.5 and Epiphany 2.28 crash when visiting certain pages, such as the Welcome to firefox first-start page. Firefox leaves Segmentation fault (core dump) in the console when it crashes, and Epiphany is silent. I've removed the Totem 2.28 plugins (thinking them to be the cause), removed Moonlight, removed Java, removed nspluginwrapper Flash10, and finally removed /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins altogether. This seems very similar to the Firefox 3.5 HTML5 video crash FreeBSD 7 users experience until they kldload sem, but I'm on 8.0 and sem is loaded by default. Did you remember to rebuild all your ports? -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- The reason why worry kills more people than work is that more people worry than work. - Robert Frost ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file
Colleagues, I cvsup the FreeBSD CVS repository daily from cvsup.ru.freebsd.org. Both the client and the server run CVSup Software version: SNAP_16_1h, Protocol version: 17.0. Recently I noticed that there are lots of messages Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file about all kinds of downloaded files. What could be the reason? Is my CVS repository corrupt or what? Is there a way to check the integrity of the entiry repository? I have read about there being a checksum mismatch problem in CVSup version before 15.4, but I am using SNAP_16_1h already. If this question is offtopic here, please direct me to a more relevant mailing list. TIA. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: tcp delays in jails
William Taylor wrote: I recently started having a problem with tcp connections in one of my jails. Im running 4.9-stable I guess it will not do any good to tell you to upgrade to 8.0? :) both sendmail and perdition experience the same problem. I even tried stopping everything on the box and the problem still persists. Just to verify - the problem is on the side of the servers (TCP listeners)? Connections to other jails on different ip's on the same box are fine. There seems to be about a 5 second delay. From this snippet of a ktrace I did you can see what looks to be a delay of about 5 seconds after the CALL kevent I'm not sure what you are tracing but this trace looks like something having to do with DNS. Does DNS resolve properly on the box? Reverse DNS also? Some servers, ssh and probably sendmail also, do a reverse DNS lookup on the connecting client. 86872 perdition 1259617190.144575 GIO fd 6 wrote 43 bytes n\M^]\^A\0\0\^A\0\0\0\0\0\0\^B18\^B96\^B81\^C206\ain-addr\^Darpa\0\0\f\0\^A 86872 perdition 1259617190.144584 RET sendto 43/0x2b 86872 perdition 1259617190.144592 CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbfde9c,0) 86872 perdition 1259617190.144604 RET gettimeofday 0 86872 perdition 1259617190.144619 CALL kevent(0x4,0xbfbfdec0,0x1,0xbfbfdec0,0x1,0xbfbfdea4) 86872 perdition 1259617195.147032 RET kevent 0 86872 perdition 1259617195.147085 CALL close(0x6) 86872 perdition 1259617195.147120 RET close 0 86872 perdition 1259617195.147138 CALL socket(0x2,0x2,0) 86872 perdition 1259617195.147150 RET socket 6 86872 perdition 1259617195.147159 CALL sendto(0x6,0xbfbfe100,0x2b,0,0x28269b60,0x10) 86872 perdition 1259617195.147186 GIO fd 6 wrote 43 bytes Any ideas of what I can do to figure this out? Just the generic ones... try seeing if DNS and reverse DNS work first. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[Call to Test] [OT] aMSN-0.98.1
Hi folks, I would like to invite everyone to test the newest version of aMSN. This version has support for video conferencing and audio conferencing, is using tk and tcl 8.6 with support for threads. The tarball style ports can be downloaded at: http://people.freebsd.org/ ~ sylvio/amsn-0.98.1.tar.gz Some screens: http://people.freebsd.org/~sylvio/amsn-0.98.1.png http://people.freebsd.org/~sylvio/amsn_with_voice.png Thank you all. Regards, Sylvio Cesar. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [Call to Test] [OT] aMSN-0.98.1
Link is: http://people.freebsd.org/~sylvio/amsn-0.98.1.tar.gz 2009/12/1 Sylvio Cesar scjamo...@bsd.com.br: Hi folks, I would like to invite everyone to test the newest version of aMSN. This version has support for video conferencing and audio conferencing, is using tk and tcl 8.6 with support for threads. The tarball style ports can be downloaded at: http://people.freebsd.org/ ~ sylvio/amsn-0.98.1.tar.gz Some screens: http://people.freebsd.org/~sylvio/amsn-0.98.1.png http://people.freebsd.org/~sylvio/amsn_with_voice.png Thank you all. Regards, Sylvio Cesar. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ntpdate on FreeBSD 8.0
I was not lucky. No one suggestions works. Maybe was wrong something with my installation CD? But thanks anywhere. I reinstalled FreeBSD 7.2 and it works without errors and very good. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 8:39 PM, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I have new installed FreeBSD 8.0 and in rc.conf I have: ntpdate_enable=YES ntpdate_hosts=ntp1.cs.wisc.edu When I boot computer I get a message there are no this host but when I run /usr/sbin/ntpdate ntp1.cs.wisc.edu it works. I had the same in rc.conf on FreeBSD 7.2 and it works all the time. All settings on FreeBSD8.0 are the same as I had on 7.2. Thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ntpdate on FreeBSD 8.0
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:25:45 -0600 Franci Nabalanci wrote: I was not lucky. No one suggestions works. Maybe was wrong something with my installation CD? But thanks anywhere. I reinstalled FreeBSD 7.2 and it works without errors and very good. It works for me at LAN, but I didn't manage to sync time by ntpdate at start time either when using PPPoE at my friends home. Seems that the network interface/something else is not ready at the time ntpdate fires. May be setting: - rc_debug=YES - at /etc/rc.conf[.local] will be helpful. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 8:39 PM, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I have new installed FreeBSD 8.0 and in rc.conf I have: ntpdate_enable=YES ntpdate_hosts=ntp1.cs.wisc.edu When I boot computer I get a message there are no this host but when I run /usr/sbin/ntpdate ntp1.cs.wisc.edu it works. I had the same in rc.conf on FreeBSD 7.2 and it works all the time. All settings on FreeBSD8.0 are the same as I had on 7.2. Thanks in advance. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.0-RELEASE and dangerously dedicated disks
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Peggy Wilkins enli...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone elaborate on what exactly this statement in the 8.0 detailed release notes means? http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes-detailed.html#FS 2.2.5 File Systems “dangerously dedicated” mode for the UFS file system is no longer supported. Important: Such disks will need to be reformatted to work with this release. Due to history I won't go into, all my production (currently 7.2-RELEASE) systems are installed onto dangerously dedicated disks. What exactly do I need to do to upgrade them to 8.0? (I'm not asking for an upgrade procedure, I'm familiar with that, but rather, how this change impacts the upgrade.) I think that the suggestion that the disks need to be reformatted is extreme and I hope something less extreme will suffice. Also, just to be clear, does this statement refer to boot disks, data disks, or both? It doesn't make sense to me that dangerously dedicated could have an impact on UFS filesystems specifically. A partition table is just a partition table, regardless of what filesystems might be written on disks, yes? Am I misunderstanding something here? Thanks for helping to clear up my confusion... plw Peggy, Were you able to find an answer for this? I also have a number of servers and firewalls that use dangerously dedicated disks (boot and data). I don't see why UFS would care if it's mounted from ad1a vs. ad1s1a. - Max ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sorting a device list
Peter Steele wrote: Can anyone recommend a quick and dirty way to sort a device list? For example, if I do this: I need to skip the device prefix before applying the -g option. Something like this works: ls /dev/ad*|sort -g -k 1.8 /dev/ad4 /dev/ad6 /dev/ad8 /dev/ad10 but this assumes the device name is just two characters long. I want a quick way to sort a generic device list like this, considering only the numeric part of the device for the key. Is there a quick and dirty way to do this or do I need to pipe it into a perl script or something? You can use sed to insert a sepcial character before the first digit, use sort with this special character as field delimiter, and then remove the special character with another call to sed. The following pipeline does it: sed -e 's/\([0-9]\)/@\1/' | sort -t @ -n -k 2 | sed -e 's/@//' (This assumes `@' does not appear in the names of the devices you are working with.) Hope this helps! -- Michaël ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?
O. Hartmann wrote: I'm just wondering what's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0/amd64 when I read the Benchmarks on Phoronix.org's website. Especially FreeBSD's threaded I/O shows in contrast to all claims that have been to be improoved the opposite. Instead of trying to compare something, I propose to look on that numbers itself first: - first test tells that average write latency is about 100us. But it looks quite surprising for Laptop HDD, which has seek time of at least several milliseconds. - second test - a bit closer to life - 2-3ms - ok, Linux won here slightly, as FreeBSD installation in this test had no NCQ support. - third test - 9us per write on Linux. I am just crying. - forth test - all OSes gave 50-80us. Probably it is just a buffer case read time. So most of shown cases are testing almost only file system cache parameters. It is just insane to compare them for so different systems with so different write-back policies. If somebody still have questions, after some UFS parameters tuning I've got with the same tiotest tool: - Random Write latency - 15us, - Random Read latency - 7us. So who can beat my FreeBSD? :))) What's about second test. To check possible NCQ effect I've built test setup with new 320GB 7200RPM Seagate drive connected to Intel ICH10R controller. I've run IMHO more reasonable benchmark/raidtest tool from ports on whole device, to execute pregenerated random mix of 1 random-sized (512B - 128KB) read/write requests using default ata(4) driver and new ahci(4): Number of READ requests: 5029. Number of WRITE requests: 4971. Number of bytes to transmit: 655986688. Number of processes: 32. The results: ata(4) - no NCQ: Bytes per second: 12455402 Requests per second: 189 ahci(4) - with NCQ: Bytes per second: 19889778 Requests per second: 303 Results are repeatable up to the 4-th digit. Average time per request is 5.29ms and 3.3ms respectively, that is realistic for this drive. So, with such difference, I believe, we will not loose this test any more. -- Alexander Motin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
trouble installing to sun blade 1500
I'm new to sun, but have some experiece installing fbsd to i386, alpha and ia64. I've sun blade 1500: http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/sunblade1500/ I just burned a 8.0 release cd, and tried to boot from it. I've a keyboard, mouse and screen attached. I get to OK prompt, type boot cdrom, but the process stops after a few seconds with: jumping to kernel entry at 0xc0088000. Then nothing, and the keyboard is not responsive. I have to force cold reset. On restart the process repeats. Am I missing something? Or maybe the cd didn't burn well? Also, there seem to be no reset button on the desktop. Is there a keyboard key or combination to force a reset? many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
too many debug messages on dmesg
anyone have a clue about this problem in dmesg log? at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007100 at_matroute: head=0xc4392800 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc459a6c8 at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007100 i know it is something related to netatalk, but i would like to be less verbose ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wanting to buy a laptop w/ FreeBSD, AND...
On Tue 2009-12-01 10:00:16 UTC+0100, Polytropon (free...@edvax.de) wrote: ?4).? WordPerfect 5.1? Could be a problem to run it natively. WordPerfect 5.1 will run under the DOSBox emulator. http://www.dosbox.com/ /usr/ports/emulators/dosbox in the FreeBSD Ports tree. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: trouble installing to sun blade 1500
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:13:20PM +, Adrian Urquhart wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I'm new to sun, but have some experiece installing fbsd to i386, alpha and ia64. I've sun blade 1500: http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/sunblade1500/ I just burned a 8.0 release cd, and tried to boot from it. I've a keyboard, mouse and screen attached. I get to OK prompt, type boot cdrom, but the process stops after a few seconds with: jumping to kernel entry at 0xc0088000. Then nothing, and the keyboard is not responsive. I have to force cold reset. On restart the process repeats. Hi I know on some Sun kit this can mean that the boot process is now carrying on via a serial port. ok, I'll try to check this out. In the meantime I tried 7.2 cd with very similar result - I'm stuck with jumping to kernel entry at 0xc0078000 Also, there seem to be no reset button on the desktop. Is there a keyboard key or combination to force a reset? Not sure what you mean by reset button but STOP-A is the usual key combination to get you to the OpenBOOT prom. yes, this was what I'm after. STOP/A doesn't seem to have any effect on my box. Do you mean hit A while STOP is pressed? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: trouble installing to sun blade 1500
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:13:20PM +, Adrian Urquhart wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I'm new to sun, but have some experiece installing fbsd to i386, alpha and ia64. I've sun blade 1500: http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/sunblade1500/ I just burned a 8.0 release cd, and tried to boot from it. I've a keyboard, mouse and screen attached. I get to OK prompt, type boot cdrom, but the process stops after a few seconds with: jumping to kernel entry at 0xc0088000. Then nothing, and the keyboard is not responsive. I have to force cold reset. On restart the process repeats. Hi I know on some Sun kit this can mean that the boot process is now carrying on via a serial port. yes, using a serial line I'm able to pass this point. Will see if I can complete the installation this way. many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Freebsd macbook: Cut-and-paste in Icewm?
Hi again, (My macbook is now a freebsd machine with 90% of my favorite programs built and running... Yay! Thanks to the community and the list! To get octave I needed to symlink f77-gfortran and use gmake instead of make, but otherwise everything went swimmingly once I figured out gpart.) Question -- I would like to have generic cut-and-paste in my icewm X session, but I have the single button funky macintosh set up. Is there a tutorial on how to set this up? I don't mind using the keyboard while I click and drag and whatever, but I haven't a clue where to start with setting that up. TIA! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
problem with php5-snmp
Trying to update all ports since updating to 8.0.. already rebuilt all ports and did a yes | make delete-old-libs so none of that is the problem.. php5-snmp would not rebuild. Not sure where the problem is.. but below is tons of output.. below is the output of the build: r...@core [/usr/ports/net-mgmt/php5-snmp]# 16 make clean === Cleaning for php5-snmp-5.2.11_1 r...@core [/usr/ports/net-mgmt/php5-snmp]# 17 make === Found saved configuration for php5-snmp-5.2.11_1 === Extracting for php5-snmp-5.2.11_1 = MD5 Checksum OK for php-5.2.11.tar.bz2. = SHA256 Checksum OK for php-5.2.11.tar.bz2. === Patching for php5-snmp-5.2.11_1 === php5-snmp-5.2.11_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/phpize - found === php5-snmp-5.2.11_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.62 - found === php5-snmp-5.2.11_1 depends on shared library: netsnmp.16 - found === PHPizing for php5-snmp-5.2.11_1 Configuring for: PHP Api Version: 20041225 Zend Module Api No: 20060613 Zend Extension Api No: 220060519 configure.in:158: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works, ...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached ../../lib/autoconf/general.m4:1973: AC_CACHE_VAL is expanded from... ../../lib/autoconf/general.m4:1993: AC_CACHE_CHECK is expanded from... aclocal.m4:3542: AC_LIBTOOL_LINKER_OPTION is expanded from... aclocal.m4:5480: _LT_AC_LANG_C_CONFIG is expanded from... aclocal.m4:5479: AC_LIBTOOL_LANG_C_CONFIG is expanded from... aclocal.m4:2959: AC_LIBTOOL_SETUP is expanded from... aclocal.m4:2939: _AC_PROG_LIBTOOL is expanded from... aclocal.m4:2902: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL is expanded from... configure.in:158: the top level configure.in:158: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works, ...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached aclocal.m4:3497: AC_LIBTOOL_COMPILER_OPTION is expanded from... aclocal.m4:7607: AC_LIBTOOL_PROG_COMPILER_PIC is expanded from... configure.in:158: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works_CXX, ...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached aclocal.m4:5593: _LT_AC_LANG_CXX_CONFIG is expanded from... aclocal.m4:5592: AC_LIBTOOL_LANG_CXX_CONFIG is expanded from... aclocal.m4:4628: _LT_AC_TAGCONFIG is expanded from... configure.in:158: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_static_works, ...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached ../../lib/autoconf/general.m4:1973: AC_CACHE_VAL is expanded from... ../../lib/autoconf/general.m4:1993: AC_CACHE_CHECK is expanded from... aclocal.m4:3542: AC_LIBTOOL_LINKER_OPTION is expanded from... aclocal.m4:5480: _LT_AC_LANG_C_CONFIG is expanded from... aclocal.m4:5479: AC_LIBTOOL_LANG_C_CONFIG is expanded from... aclocal.m4:2959: AC_LIBTOOL_SETUP is expanded from... aclocal.m4:2939: _AC_PROG_LIBTOOL is expanded from... aclocal.m4:2902: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL is expanded from... configure.in:158: the top level configure.in:158: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works, ...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached aclocal.m4:3497: AC_LIBTOOL_COMPILER_OPTION is expanded from... aclocal.m4:7607: AC_LIBTOOL_PROG_COMPILER_PIC is expanded from... configure.in:158: warning: AC_CACHE_VAL(lt_prog_compiler_pic_works_CXX, ...): suspicious cache-id, must contain _cv_ to be cached aclocal.m4:5593: _LT_AC_LANG_CXX_CONFIG is expanded from... aclocal.m4:5592: AC_LIBTOOL_LANG_CXX_CONFIG is expanded from... aclocal.m4:4628: _LT_AC_TAGCONFIG is expanded from... === Configuring for php5-snmp-5.2.11_1 checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /usr/bin/grep checking for egrep... /usr/bin/grep -E checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /usr/bin/sed checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for cc option to accept ISO C89... none needed checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E checking for icc... no checking for suncc... no checking whether cc understands -c and -o together... yes checking for system library directory... lib checking if compiler supports -R... yes checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd8.0 checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd8.0 checking target system type... i386-portbld-freebsd8.0 checking for PHP prefix... /usr/local checking for PHP includes... -I/usr/local/include/php -I/usr/local/include/php/main -I/usr/local/include/php/TSRM -I/usr/local/include/php/Zend -I/usr/local/include/php/ext -I/usr/local/include/php/ext/date/lib checking for PHP extension directory... /usr/local/lib/php/20060613 checking for PHP installed headers prefix... /usr/local/include/php checking if debug is enabled... no checking if zts is enabled... no checking for re2c... no configure: WARNING: You will need re2c 0.13.4 or later if you want to
Re: trouble installing to sun blade 1500
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:27:11PM +0100, Gheorghe Ardelean wrote: Hello Anton ... to FreeBSD sparc64, I get to OK prompt, type boot cdrom, but the process stops after a few seconds with: jumping to kernel entry at 0xc0088000. I think supported system means that it is working at least via serial console (this is the case e.g for Plain Ultra 1). So when I see something like this I hook-up a serial console and try over it. ok, 8.0 installation went fine. On reboot I get this panic (typed by hand): Entropy harvesting: interrupts ethernet point_to_pointpanic: trap: memory address not aligned Automatic reboot in 15 seconds Any advice? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: trouble installing to sun blade 1500
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:57:52PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:27:11PM +0100, Gheorghe Ardelean wrote: Hello Anton ... to FreeBSD sparc64, I get to OK prompt, type boot cdrom, but the process stops after a few seconds with: jumping to kernel entry at 0xc0088000. I think supported system means that it is working at least via serial console (this is the case e.g for Plain Ultra 1). So when I see something like this I hook-up a serial console and try over it. ok, 8.0 installation went fine. On reboot I get this panic (typed by hand): Entropy harvesting: interrupts ethernet point_to_pointpanic: trap: memory address not aligned Automatic reboot in 15 seconds Any advice? in case it matters, I see nexus0: syscons type unknown (no driver attached) nexus0: memory-controller mem 0x400-0x47 type memory-controller (no driver attached) messages on boot. Not sure if it's related. many thanks for any advice -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: trouble installing to sun blade 1500
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:27:11PM +0100, Gheorghe Ardelean wrote: Hello Anton ... to FreeBSD sparc64, I get to OK prompt, type boot cdrom, but the process stops after a few seconds with: jumping to kernel entry at 0xc0088000. I think supported system means that it is working at least via serial console (this is the case e.g for Plain Ultra 1). So when I see something like this I hook-up a serial console and try over it. ok, 8.0 installation went fine. On reboot I get this panic (typed by hand): Entropy harvesting: interrupts ethernet point_to_pointpanic: trap: memory address not aligned Automatic reboot in 15 seconds Any advice? Maybe marius@ can help you. But I would also give 7.2 a try. 7.2-RELEASE was the first release to support Blade 1500 IIRC. Regards, Gheorghe Ardelean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ZFS pools of consisting of several mirrors
Hello, In experimenting a bit with ZFS, I, among other things, tried something like this zpool create -R /test test mirror file[01]0 mirror file[01]1 mirror file[01]2 mirror file[01]3 mirror file[01]4 mirror file[01]5 This, according to zpool status, gives me a (file backed) pool consisting of six mirrors, each mirror consisting of two files. Now for my question. Exactly how is the pool built? Is it... 1. A RAID0 of the six mirrors? 2. A mirror of two RAID0 arrays, each array consisting of the six files file0[0-5] and file1[0-5] respectively? 3 and 4. Like 1 and 2 above, but with JBOD instead of RAID0? 5. Some other way I haven't thought about? I guess it's 1 or 3, as the zpool status output shows me six mirrors, but which is it? And, provided my guess is correct, is there a way to implement 2 or 4 without involving geom_stripe or geom_concat? Sincerely, Rolf Nielsen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: trouble installing to sun blade 1500
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:07:18PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: in case it matters, I see nexus0: syscons type unknown (no driver attached) nexus0: memory-controller mem 0x400-0x47 type memory-controller (no driver attached) messages on boot. I haven't walked through the list, but we have a lot of sparc64 dmesgs posted up at http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/sparc64/dmesgs. mcl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS pools of consisting of several mirrors
In the last episode (Dec 01), Rolf Nielsen said: In experimenting a bit with ZFS, I, among other things, tried something like this zpool create -R /test test mirror file[01]0 mirror file[01]1 mirror file[01]2 mirror file[01]3 mirror file[01]4 mirror file[01]5 This, according to zpool status, gives me a (file backed) pool consisting of six mirrors, each mirror consisting of two files. Now for my question. Exactly how is the pool built? Is it... 1. A RAID0 of the six mirrors? 2. A mirror of two RAID0 arrays, each array consisting of the six files file0[0-5] and file1[0-5] respectively? 3 and 4. Like 1 and 2 above, but with JBOD instead of RAID0? 5. Some other way I haven't thought about? I guess it's 1 or 3, as the zpool status output shows me six mirrors, but which is it? And, provided my guess is correct, is there a way to implement 2 or 4 without involving geom_stripe or geom_concat? It's 1/3/5. Each mirror is independant, and writes are balanced across the mirrors based on space usage. If you add another mirror to grow the pool, it will get most of the writes until the usages balance out. You usually don't want to build an array with options 2 or 4, since a single drive failure will degrade the entire mirror half. Consider if you have concat00 - file01 file02 file03 file04 file05 concat01 - file11 file12 file13 file14 file15 mirror0 - concat0 concat1 If file01 fails, concat00 fails, causing mirror0 to become degraded. When you replace file01, mirror0 will have to resynch all of concat00 from concat01 since it doesn't know about the subdevices. If you don't replace file01, and then file15 fails, you have lost your entire volume (unless you do some hackery to swap file05 and file15 to create a functioning concat01). -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick fixit - No USB devices found!
For the archives, there's now a PR for this: bin/140972 - Derek ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS pools of consisting of several mirrors
Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Dec 01), Rolf Nielsen said: In experimenting a bit with ZFS, I, among other things, tried something like this zpool create -R /test test mirror file[01]0 mirror file[01]1 mirror file[01]2 mirror file[01]3 mirror file[01]4 mirror file[01]5 This, according to zpool status, gives me a (file backed) pool consisting of six mirrors, each mirror consisting of two files. Now for my question. Exactly how is the pool built? Is it... 1. A RAID0 of the six mirrors? 2. A mirror of two RAID0 arrays, each array consisting of the six files file0[0-5] and file1[0-5] respectively? 3 and 4. Like 1 and 2 above, but with JBOD instead of RAID0? 5. Some other way I haven't thought about? I guess it's 1 or 3, as the zpool status output shows me six mirrors, but which is it? And, provided my guess is correct, is there a way to implement 2 or 4 without involving geom_stripe or geom_concat? It's 1/3/5. Each mirror is independant, and writes are balanced across the mirrors based on space usage. If you add another mirror to grow the pool, it will get most of the writes until the usages balance out. You usually don't want to build an array with options 2 or 4, since a single drive failure will degrade the entire mirror half. Consider if you have concat00 - file01 file02 file03 file04 file05 concat01 - file11 file12 file13 file14 file15 mirror0 - concat0 concat1 If file01 fails, concat00 fails, causing mirror0 to become degraded. When you replace file01, mirror0 will have to resynch all of concat00 from concat01 since it doesn't know about the subdevices. If you don't replace file01, and then file15 fails, you have lost your entire volume (unless you do some hackery to swap file05 and file15 to create a functioning concat01). Good point. Thanks for the reply. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
how to remove HAL dependencies in gnome2
I source upgraded a server from 7.2 release to 8.0 release. In trying to rebuild all the ports, HAL is broken and won't compile. If I try to make config on most of those ports there is no HAL in the config. How do I get rid of these dependencies so I can get the last of the ports rebuilt? These ports all seem to be part of gnome2. -Derek derek at computinginnovations.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with php5-snmp
B. Cook wrote:
Trying to update all ports since updating to 8.0..
already rebuilt all ports and did a yes | make delete-old-libs so none
of that is the problem..
php5-snmp would not rebuild.
Not sure where the problem is..
but below is tons of output..
snip
checking for snmp_parse_oid in -lnetsnmp... no
checking for init_snmp in -lnetsnmp... no
configure: error: SNMP sanity check failed. Please check config.log for
more information.
So what does config.log say? It should be at
/usr/ports/net-mgmt/php5-snmp/work/{$PORTNAME}/config.log
and *might* have useful information.
HTH,
Kevin Kinsey
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Has the FreeSBIE (Free BSD live CD) project been phased out?
I have been trying to get to their page for more than a day ~ http://www.freebsd.org/where.html ~ FreeSBIE: http://www.freesbie.org/ ~ Maybe you can help me out anyway. Basically I would like to know if the latest release of FreeSBIE has a fromhd or bootfrom option from which you could start it based on an ISO image and free the CD-ROM/DVD player for whichever purpose you want. ~ Also I would like to experiment with DTrace using FreeBSD. Any hints? ~ Thank you lbrtchx ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Why there are so many binary packages missing?
I am seeing this for a long time. If I use 'portupgrade -aPP' (packages only) there is a very large percentage of packages missing. Upgrading becomes many times faster when binary packages available are available. Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash script question
I just find out: #!/usr/local/bin/bash export IFS= cuc=$* mkdir cuc Thanks anyway! László From: Dánielisz László laszlo_daniel...@yahoo.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 8:37:04 PM Subject: bash script question Hello, I'd like to ask how can I read a variable in the same line when I launch a script? For example ./script.sh directory_name, and I want the script to creat the directory called directory_name or whatever I input there. Thank you! László ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
bash script question
Hello, I'd like to ask how can I read a variable in the same line when I launch a script? For example ./script.sh directory_name, and I want the script to creat the directory called directory_name or whatever I input there. Thank you! László ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to remove HAL dependencies in gnome2
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009, at 12:41:07 -0600, Derek Ragona wrote: I source upgraded a server from 7.2 release to 8.0 release. In trying to rebuild all the ports, HAL is broken and won't compile. If I try to make config on most of those ports there is no HAL in the config. How do I get rid of these dependencies so I can get the last of the ports rebuilt? These ports all seem to be part of gnome2. Hi. I'm not sure why it wasn't more clearly announced as being required for the 8.0 upgrade specifically, however following the 20090309 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING (mainly removing the libusb port) should allow HAL to build again. Hope that helps, -Mark -- Internet Radio: Party107 (Trance/Electronic) - http://www.party107.com IRC: MIXXnet IRC Network - irc.mixxnet.net (Nick: MarkK) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash script question
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:48:43 -0800 (PST), Dánielisz László laszlo_daniel...@yahoo.com wrote: I just find out: #!/usr/local/bin/bash export IFS= cuc=$* mkdir cuc The $* variable will expand to all arguments given on the command line, e. g. $ ./myscript foo bar baz will result in mkdir foo bar baz and so create a directory named foo\ bar\ baz including the spaces. If you only want to access the first parameter, use $1, and for good form, check it before further processing. Your use of quotes to include the parameter is already good form. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash script question
Dánielisz László wrote: I just find out: #!/usr/local/bin/bash export IFS= cuc=$* mkdir cuc Thanks anyway! László From: Dánielisz László laszlo_daniel...@yahoo.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 8:37:04 PM Subject: bash script question Hello, I'd like to ask how can I read a variable in the same line when I launch a script? For example ./script.sh directory_name, and I want the script to creat the directory called directory_name or whatever I input there. Thank you! László ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Why are you using bash? To make a shell script as portable as possible, use /bin/sh. Bash is a third party shell, that isn't included in a base installation (you're not using bash as root's shell, are you?). By using /bin/sh, you make sure the script will run without having to install any ports. Try this instead (check the Special parameters section in the sh(1) man page to get the difference between $* and $@ and an explanation as to why I quote the $@). #!/bin/sh mkdir $@ Cheers, Rolf Nielsen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: tcp delays in jails
On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:07 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: William Taylor wrote: I recently started having a problem with tcp connections in one of my jails. Im running 4.9-stable I guess it will not do any good to tell you to upgrade to 8.0? :) Not at this time although I probably should eventually. I still have a 3.5-STABLE box kicking around. I have always been a believer of if it isn't broken don't fix it. both sendmail and perdition experience the same problem. I even tried stopping everything on the box and the problem still persists. Just to verify - the problem is on the side of the servers (TCP listeners)? Seems to be. I could write a small tcp server and see if I can get it to exhibit the same behavior or not. Connections to other jails on different ip's on the same box are fine. There seems to be about a 5 second delay. From this snippet of a ktrace I did you can see what looks to be a delay of about 5 seconds after the CALL kevent I'm not sure what you are tracing but this trace looks like something having to do with DNS. Does DNS resolve properly on the box? Reverse DNS also? Some servers, ssh and probably sendmail also, do a reverse DNS lookup on the connecting client. Just the generic ones... try seeing if DNS and reverse DNS work first. Yes DNS is resolving properly forward and reverse. I even tried changing DNS servers. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why there are so many binary packages missing?
Yuri wrote: I am seeing this for a long time. If I use 'portupgrade -aPP' (packages only) there is a very large percentage of packages missing. Upgrading becomes many times faster when binary packages available are available. Missing binary packages are due in the main to three reasons: * Restrictive licensing terms * Ports that through bugs, or otherwise, fail to successfully generate a binary package. Some ports (eg. sysutils/screen up until about 2 months ago (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/screen/Makefile.diff?r1=1.77;r2=1.78)) just won't package successfully, even if they build, install and run perfectly well. * The port has a dependency on another port that failed for reason (2). Because the ports build cluster installs the dependencies of the port it is currently trying to build from binary packages, any lower level port that fails will prevent packages being built for anything that depends on it. Packages may still be built internal to the build cluster and used to fulfil dependencies although their licensing terms forbid /release/ in compiled form, so (1) doesn't contribute all that much to (3). An awful lot of work by a great many people goes towards minimizing the effects of (2) and that automatically ameliorates (3). There's always more to do though, and anyone volunteering their help will be gratefully received. See http://portsmon.freebsd.org/ for a database of the current statuses. (1) depends on the authors of the package changing their licensing policies; frequently persuading people to do that is an uphill struggle and often requires lobbying by a whole mass of people. Then there are a few oddball packages not built for various other reasons. Eg. building OpenOffice basically ties up too many system resources from the build cluster for too long, so I believe that it is still the case that it is left to 3rd parties to generate and publish packages. Hmmm.. also, just an afterthought and probably insultingly obvious, but where are you fetching the pkgs from? Be aware that the installation media only contain a selection of the most popular packages because there simply isn't space to include everything. Go to the FTP sites for a comprehensive service. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Wanting to buy a laptop w/ FreeBSD, AND...
2009/12/1 andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com: On Tue 2009-12-01 10:00:16 UTC+0100, Polytropon (free...@edvax.de) wrote: ?4).? WordPerfect 5.1? Could be a problem to run it natively. WordPerfect 5.1 will run under the DOSBox emulator. http://www.dosbox.com/ /usr/ports/emulators/dosbox in the FreeBSD Ports tree. Emacs doesn't have a mode for that? As one who used to write with wordstar, discovering the jstar mode of editors/joe was quite the delight. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ACPI temperature
On Monday 30 November 2009 04:59:51 pm you wrote: 2009/11/29 Steven Friedrich free...@insightbb.com: On Sunday 29 November 2009 11:03:28 am you wrote: 2009/11/29 Steven Friedrich free...@insightbb.com: I booted my HP Pavilion zd8215us and I immediately invoked chkCPUTemperature. The first temp reported was 52C, which is 125.6F. This leads me to believe that acpi has an anomaly regarding temperature measurement. The ambient temp was 71F (21.6C). The machine had been off for over eight hours. I'm not sure. My laptop shows about 59C as soon as I can log in, in a room kept around 16C ambient. It rather quickly drops to 40C if I let it idle with powerd doing its thing. Thanks for the response. One question though, what OS are you running. The reason I ask is because I want to discover if it's FreeBSD specific or possibly affecting Linux distros as well. And if you're running FreeBSD, which version. I think CPU use/temp during boot-up _could_ vary a lot from one operating system to another, I don't know that it must, though, since the whole business is arcane and full of magic (much like poutine). FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #1: Mon Nov 23 13:47:06 EST 2009 amd64 It's a turion x2 of 1990MHz I only had windows on long enough to burn one CD back in February, so I have not the least clue how it behaved (besides terribly). I can't find any way to get the actual temperature values under Opensolaris, but I do dual boot. It spends so much time starting so many mind-bogglingly worthless services prior to giving me a log-in prompt that I'm not sure the comparison is fair. The fan usually kick into high prior to the log-in prompt, though. Opensolaris is pretty horrible in terms of performance and battery life compared to FreeBSD. It's also like a strange, alien wasteland what with bash gnome other linuxisms, except pfexec. pfexec rocks. I wasn't thinking that the actual temperature varied from one OS to another, I was thinking that Linux might have a different version of ACPI or that FreeBSD might have a bug that Linux doesn't. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why there are so many binary packages missing?
Matthew Seaman wrote: Yuri wrote: I am seeing this for a long time. If I use 'portupgrade -aPP' (packages only) there is a very large percentage of packages missing. Upgrading becomes many times faster when binary packages available are available. Missing binary packages are due in the main to three reasons: * Restrictive licensing terms * Ports that through bugs, or otherwise, fail to successfully generate a binary package. Some ports (eg. sysutils/screen up until about 2 months ago (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/screen/Makefile.diff?r1=1.77;r2=1.78)) just won't package successfully, even if they build, install and run perfectly well. * The port has a dependency on another port that failed for reason (2). Because the ports build cluster installs the dependencies of the port it is currently trying to build from binary packages, any lower level port that fails will prevent packages being built for anything that depends on it. Thank you for this information. Let's put aside #1. There are probably very few of those. It still seems strange: on my system all of the ports that I need build ok. Why would the port build successfully, but would fail to generate a binary package? Isn't packaging just gzipping resulting binaries with some minor additions? Also why wouldn't the cluster build and install a port, once the package fails? This way the #3 item is eliminated completely. Since it looks like there is much more likely to build a port then a binary package. Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with php5-snmp
So what does config.log say? cat -n work/php-5.2.11/ext/snmp/config.log 1 This file contains any messages produced by compilers while 2 running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake. 3 4 It was created by configure, which was 5 generated by GNU Autoconf 2.62. Invocation command line was 6 7 $ ./configure --with-snmp=/usr/local --with-openssl-dir=/usr --enable-ucd-snmp-hack --with-php-config=/usr/local/bin/php-config --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/man --infodir=/usr/local/info/ --build=i386-portbld-freebsd8.0 8 9 ## - ## 10 ## Platform. ## 11 ## - ## 12 13 hostname = core.phs.pcsd 14 uname -m = i386 15 uname -r = 8.0-RELEASE 16 uname -s = FreeBSD 17 uname -v = FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Dec 1 14:05:04 EST 2009 r...@core.phs.pcsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERICplus 18 19 /usr/bin/uname -p = i386 20 /bin/uname -X = unknown 21 22 /bin/arch = unknown 23 /usr/bin/arch -k = unknown 24 /usr/convex/getsysinfo = unknown 25 /usr/bin/hostinfo = unknown 26 /bin/machine = unknown 27 /usr/bin/oslevel = unknown 28 /bin/universe = unknown 29 30 PATH: /sbin 31 PATH: /bin 32 PATH: /usr/sbin 33 PATH: /usr/bin 34 PATH: /usr/games 35 PATH: /usr/local/sbin 36 PATH: /usr/local/bin 37 PATH: /root/bin 38 39 40 ## --- ## 41 ## Core tests. ## 42 ## --- ## 43 44 configure:1999: checking for grep that handles long lines and -e 45 configure:2059: result: /usr/bin/grep 46 configure:2064: checking for egrep 47 configure:2128: result: /usr/bin/grep -E 48 configure:2133: checking for a sed that does not truncate output 49 configure:2187: result: /usr/bin/sed 50 configure:2382: checking for C compiler version 51 configure:2390: cc --version 5 52 cc (GCC) 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD] 53 Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 54 This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO 55 warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. 56 57 configure:2394: $? = 0 58 configure:2401: cc -v 5 59 Using built-in specs. 60 Target: i386-undermydesk-freebsd 61 Configured with: FreeBSD/i386 system compiler 62 Thread model: posix 63 gcc version 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD] 64 configure:2405: $? = 0 65 configure:2412: cc -V 5 66 cc: '-V' option must have argument 67 configure:2416: $? = 1 68 configure:2439: checking for C compiler default output file name 69 configure:2461: cc -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -fno-strict-aliasing -L/usr/lib -lcrypto -lssl -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib conftest.c 5 70 configure:2465: $? = 0 71 configure:2503: result: a.out 72 configure:2520: checking whether the C compiler works 73 configure:2530: ./a.out 74 configure:2534: $? = 0 75 configure:2551: result: yes 76 configure:2558: checking whether we are cross compiling 77 configure:2560: result: no 78 configure:2563: checking for suffix of executables 79 configure:2570: cc -o conftest -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -fno-strict-aliasing -L/usr/lib -lcrypto -lssl -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib conftest.c 5 80 configure:2574: $? = 0 81 configure:2598: result: 82 configure:2604: checking for suffix of object files 83 configure:2630: cc -c -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -fno-strict-aliasing conftest.c 5 84 configure:2634: $? = 0 85 configure:2657: result: o 86 configure:2661: checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler 87 configure:2690: cc -c -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -fno-strict-aliasing conftest.c 5 88 configure:2697: $? = 0 89 configure:2714: result: yes 90 configure:2723: checking whether cc accepts -g 91 configure:2753: cc -c -g conftest.c 5 92 configure:2760: $? = 0 93 configure:2861: result: yes 94 configure:2878: checking for cc option to accept ISO C89 95 configure:2952: cc -c -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -fno-strict-aliasing conftest.c 5 96 configure:2959: $? = 0 97 configure:2982: result: none needed 98 configure:3006: checking how to run the C preprocessor 99 configure:3046: cc -E conftest.c 100 configure:3053: $? = 0 101 configure:3084: cc -E conftest.c 102 conftest.c:8:28: error: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory 103 configure:3091: $? = 1 104 configure: failed program was: 105 | /* confdefs.h. */ 106 | #define PACKAGE_NAME 107 | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME 108 | #define PACKAGE_VERSION 109 | #define PACKAGE_STRING 110 | #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT 111 | /* end confdefs.h. */ 112 | #include ac_nonexistent.h
Re: 8.0-RELEASE and dangerously dedicated disks
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 07:59:42AM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Peggy Wilkins enli...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone elaborate on what exactly this statement in the 8.0 detailed release notes means? http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes-detailed.html#FS 2.2.5 File Systems ???dangerously dedicated??? mode for the UFS file system is no longer supported. Important: Such disks will need to be reformatted to work with this release. Due to history I won't go into, all my production (currently 7.2-RELEASE) systems are installed onto dangerously dedicated disks. What exactly do I need to do to upgrade them to 8.0? (I'm not asking for an upgrade procedure, I'm familiar with that, but rather, how this change impacts the upgrade.) I think that the suggestion that the disks need to be reformatted is extreme and I hope something less extreme will suffice. Also, just to be clear, does this statement refer to boot disks, data disks, or both? It doesn't make sense to me that dangerously dedicated could have an impact on UFS filesystems specifically. A partition table is just a partition table, regardless of what filesystems might be written on disks, yes? Am I misunderstanding something here? I don't know why it would have an affect, but they say it does. I take this to mean that any disk that is created without slice and partition within slice needs to be redone.Probably it can all be done in sysinstall, but you can do it with fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs. It does not matter if it is a boot disk or just a data disk. It is whether or not it has a (one or more, up to 4) slice defined and within the slice[s] partitions defined which are turned in to filesystems. You can tell by the dev names in /etc/fstab. If they have the full device name /dev/da0s1a, ... da0s1h, they are NOT dangerously dedicated and you should not have to worry. If the machine is dual booted with some MS thing as the other OS, then it is very unlikely that they are dangerously dedicated. But, if they are like /dev/da0 or /dev/da0s1 (but with no 'a, b..h') then they are dangerously dedicated and you need to convert them. First you would have to back up the contents of the disk, partition by partition (mountable filesystem by mountable filesystem) however you have it. Since it is 'dangerously dedicated' it is likely you have a single filesystem per disk that needs backing up. Check out that backup to make sure it is readable. There is no going back. The backup can be done to tape or USB external disk or network or any other media that will not be affected, has room and can be written and read from the FreeBSD system. Then, boot a FreeBSD system that does not have the disk in question mounted. Probably you will need to use a 'fixit' image from the install CDs. Just for example, lets say, once your are booted, the disk to be converted shows up as /dev/ad1 and that it was all in one file system and that you want it to continue to be all in one file system. Do the following: (This makes a bootable drive and bootable partition with the standard FreeBSD MBR) (The dd-s just make sure old stuff is cleared) dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=512 count=1025 fdisk -BI ad1 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1s1 bs=512 count=1025 bsdlabel -w -B ad1s1 bsdlabel -e ad1s1 The last bsdlabel command will bring up an edit screen. I suggest that you make at least some swap on this disk. So, you will want partition 'b' for swap and partition 'a' for everything else. Edit the partition label so it looks like: # /dev/ad0s3: 8 partitions: #size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 8729532204.2BSD2048 16384 49160 b:** swap c: 898676100unused 0 0 # raw part, don't edit Those sizes are just an example. Use sizes that fit your disk. Using a * as the last size means it will use all remaining disk and the * in offset means it will calculate it properly. Of course, don't do anything to the 'c' line. Once that is done, newfs the partition to make a filesystem. newfs /dev/ad1s1a Note that fdisk and bsdlabel do not need the full path. They figure it out. But, the last I knew, newfs still does.Probably the defaults on newfs will work just fine. If you have huge numbers of tiny files you might want to adjust '-i' bytes per inode to increase number of inodes. You might also want to turn on softupdates with '-U'. jerry Thanks for helping to clear up my confusion... plw Peggy, Were you able to find an answer for this? I also have a number of servers and firewalls that use dangerously dedicated disks (boot and data). I don't see why UFS would care if it's mounted from ad1a vs. ad1s1a. - Max ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
Re: bash script question
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:06:34 +0100, Rolf G Nielsen laz...@lazlarlyricon.com wrote: Why are you using bash? To make a shell script as portable as possible, use /bin/sh. Bash is a third party shell, that isn't included in a base installation (you're not using bash as root's shell, are you?). By using /bin/sh, you make sure the script will run without having to install any ports. That's a very good advice. Using sh is strongly recommended for maximal portability. Use sh if you're not requiring features that are bash-only. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash script question
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 10:42:10PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:06:34 +0100, Rolf G Nielsen laz...@lazlarlyricon.com wrote: Why are you using bash? To make a shell script as portable as possible, use /bin/sh. Bash is a third party shell, that isn't included in a base installation (you're not using bash as root's shell, are you?). By using /bin/sh, you make sure the script will run without having to install any ports. That's a very good advice. Using sh is strongly recommended for maximal portability. Use sh if you're not requiring features that are bash-only. Hi guys, Here's a bash-related question, kind-of. Is there any way to automagically run my .csrhc thru a script and wind up with a bash script? gary -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash script question
Gary Kline wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 10:42:10PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:06:34 +0100, Rolf G Nielsen laz...@lazlarlyricon.com wrote: Why are you using bash? To make a shell script as portable as possible, use /bin/sh. Bash is a third party shell, that isn't included in a base installation (you're not using bash as root's shell, are you?). By using /bin/sh, you make sure the script will run without having to install any ports. That's a very good advice. Using sh is strongly recommended for maximal portability. Use sh if you're not requiring features that are bash-only. Hi guys, Here's a bash-related question, kind-of. Is there any way to automagically run my .csrhc thru a script and wind up with a bash script? gary -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org If by Is there any way you mean is it possible, the answer would have to be yes. The next question is most likely has anyone written such a script? and to that question, someone else will have to provide the answer. Rolf Nielsen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash script question
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:45:55 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Hi guys, Here's a bash-related question, kind-of. Is there any way to automagically run my .csrhc thru a script and wind up with a bash script? csh and (ba)sh use dufferent syntax and variable names. But you could write an easy search and replace translator for the .cshrc settings, which are mostly alias foo = 'bar' set var = value setenv envvar = value but for some of them, there's no bash equivalent (e. g. set promptchars and set promt in cshrc, but PS1 in bash). I'm not aware of an already existing mechanism that does this. Running one shell from the other doesn't transport most of the settings. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: trouble installing to sun blade 1500
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:57:52PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:27:11PM +0100, Gheorghe Ardelean wrote: Hello Anton ... to FreeBSD sparc64, I get to OK prompt, type boot cdrom, but the process stops after a few seconds with: jumping to kernel entry at 0xc0088000. You're using an unsupported framebuffer (see the release notes). I think supported system means that it is working at least via serial console (this is the case e.g for Plain Ultra 1). So when I see something like this I hook-up a serial console and try over it. ok, 8.0 installation went fine. On reboot I get this panic (typed by hand): Entropy harvesting: interrupts ethernet point_to_pointpanic: trap: memory address not aligned Automatic reboot in 15 seconds Any advice? This unfortunately isn't sufficient information and my Blade 1500 doesn't exhibit this problem. Could you please put the full dmesg output online somewhere (this should be easy to capture when using a serial console)? Can you boot to single user? Marius ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
How known?
hey, mail gurus, how is this possible? thru evolution:: This is a receipt for the mail you sent to x...@msn.com at 12/1/2009 12:43 PM This receipt verifies that the message has been displayed on the recipient's computer at 12/1/2009 1:55 PM -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash script question
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:02:07PM +0100, Rolf G Nielsen wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 10:42:10PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:06:34 +0100, Rolf G Nielsen
laz...@lazlarlyricon.com wrote:
Why are you using bash? To make a shell script as portable as possible,
use /bin/sh. Bash is a third party shell, that isn't included in a base
installation (you're not using bash as root's shell, are you?). By using
/bin/sh, you make sure the script will run without having to install any
ports.
That's a very good advice. Using sh is strongly recommended
for maximal portability. Use sh if you're not requiring
features that are bash-only.
Hi guys,
Here's a bash-related question, kind-of. Is there any way to
automagically run my .csrhc thru a script and wind up with a
bash script?
gary
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If by Is there any way you mean is it possible, the answer would
have to be yes. The next question is most likely has anyone written
such a script? and to that question, someone else will have to provide
the answer.
Rolf Nielsen
(sheepishly, and hanging my head) yes. does anybody have a
csh/cshrc-alias to a bash/bashrc-alias script? i've got
hundreds of aliases to be just deleted, i suppose, by dozens
more.
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Re: How known?
On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Gary Kline wrote: hey, mail gurus, how is this possible? thru evolution:: This is a receipt for the mail you sent to x...@msn.com at 12/1/2009 12:43 PM This receipt verifies that the message has been displayed on the recipient's computer at 12/1/2009 1:55 PM Most mail user agents have an option to enable read receipts; they use (or abuse) the DSN or MDN capabilities of the recipient's MTA or MUA. They are not a reliable signal that a human has seen the mail, although they can be used to confirm it at least got to the recipient's mail server or were processed by their MUA. Knowledgeable mail admins tend to disable them as being needlessly intrusive and wasteful of resources. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash script question
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:10:33PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:45:55 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Hi guys, Here's a bash-related question, kind-of. Is there any way to automagically run my .csrhc thru a script and wind up with a bash script? csh and (ba)sh use dufferent syntax and variable names. But you could write an easy search and replace translator for the .cshrc settings, which are mostly alias foo = 'bar' set var = value setenv envvar = value but for some of them, there's no bash equivalent (e. g. set promptchars and set promt in cshrc, but PS1 in bash). I'm not aware of an already existing mechanism that does this. Running one shell from the other doesn't transport most of the settings. Ah, Polyt to the rescue. I already have things like setenv aliased to ksh/zsh/borne-again/ and probably even /bin/sh || /bin/ash. I thought that especially bash was still persnikity. It used to be centuries ago, so I just stuck with zsh. Another deal was that I rarely use root, so it didn't worth it. But now, sweating the End of Days, yup. I'll see if vim can come to the resuce. thankee. gary -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How known?
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 03:15:25PM -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Gary Kline wrote: hey, mail gurus, how is this possible? thru evolution:: This is a receipt for the mail you sent to x...@msn.com at 12/1/2009 12:43 PM This receipt verifies that the message has been displayed on the recipient's computer at 12/1/2009 1:55 PM Most mail user agents have an option to enable read receipts; they use (or abuse) the DSN or MDN capabilities of the recipient's MTA or MUA. They are not a reliable signal that a human has seen the mail, although they can be used to confirm it at least got to the recipient's mail server or were processed by their MUA. What are DSN and MDN, please? Knowledgeable mail admins tend to disable them as being needlessly intrusive and wasteful of resources. I understand that. I feel like Giorgos Keramidas: don't want people tracking my every move. And in most cases, it's a dontcare for me. But for people like XYZ above, who is involved with my book, I 8DO* care if she got my message. gary Regards, -- -Chuck -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How known?
On Dec 1, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Gary Kline wrote: Most mail user agents have an option to enable read receipts; they use (or abuse) the DSN or MDN capabilities of the recipient's MTA or MUA. They are not a reliable signal that a human has seen the mail, although they can be used to confirm it at least got to the recipient's mail server or were processed by their MUA. What are DSN and MDN, please? Delivery Status Notification, Message Disposition Notification -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
installing cups-client kills my machines
Hello, I don't have any printers attached to my system but sometimes I have to print something to a pdf file from my www browser or email client. Everything works fine without cups but some ports are installing it (or parts of it) as dependencies and that's when all problems starts. With cups-client installed I can not print to PDF files any more. In fact just touching anything related to printing results with [almost] frozen machine. For example pushing page setup, print preview or print options in Firefox is going to result in 100% WCPU usage by firefox-bin and it sits like that forever. Currently I'm running cups-client-1.4.2_1. Same problem when I try to access print-related options from within Thunderbird and Firefox. Same problem on two different machines with 7.2-RELEASE-i386 and 8.0-RELEASE-amd64. Don't really know what should I look at - any ideas, please? It drives me crazy and ruins my desktop experience (i.e. I have to reboot into Windows just to print something to a file). Michal -- Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler. -Albert Einstein ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
What's up with gnome-terminal?
Still no joy trying to get gnome-terminal to work. Now when I try to load it I get this error message: ** ERROR:terminal-app.c:1445:terminal_app_init: assertion failed: (app-system_font_desc != NULL) Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) Funny thing is that a year or so ago I used to use gnome-terminal on another installation with no problems. Did something change? Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How known?
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:05:17PM -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Dec 1, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Gary Kline wrote: Most mail user agents have an option to enable read receipts; they use (or abuse) the DSN or MDN capabilities of the recipient's MTA or MUA. They are not a reliable signal that a human has seen the mail, although they can be used to confirm it at least got to the recipient's mail server or were processed by their MUA. What are DSN and MDN, please? Delivery Status Notification, Message Disposition Notification Wow; amazing. i'Ve been checking thru /usr/local/etc/Muttrc and found something interesting. This, circa lins #2900 ++: # Specifies how to sort messages in the index menu. Valid values # are: # #date or date-sent #date-received #from #mailbox-order (unsorted) #score #size #subject #threads #to but nowhere to specify the date-received. Strange, yes? wait::: dsn # set dsn_notify= # # Name: dsn_notify # Type: string # Default: # Be nice to suggest to the mutt folks to let this be turned on only for certain email. I *have* tried to sub to the mutt mailinglist, but never get any responce. AFAIK, there is no forum, so maybe it's time to roll my own hack! thanks muchly, gary mutt forum, so maybe it's time to roll my own hack! -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's up with gnome-terminal?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: Still no joy trying to get gnome-terminal to work. Now when I try to load it I get this error message: ** ERROR:terminal-app.c:1445:terminal_app_init: assertion failed: (app-system_font_desc != NULL) Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) Funny thing is that a year or so ago I used to use gnome-terminal on another installation with no problems. Did something change? Rem Works great here and I doubt it a problem w/ terminal itself. Perhaps your install is borked, try reinstalling, checking for lost/broken depends, etc. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's up with gnome-terminal?
On 2009.12.01 19:16:10 +, Adam Vande More wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: Still no joy trying to get gnome-terminal to work. Now when I try to load it I get this error message: ** ERROR:terminal-app.c:1445:terminal_app_init: assertion failed: (app-system_font_desc != NULL) Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) Funny thing is that a year or so ago I used to use gnome-terminal on another installation with no problems. Did something change? Rem Works great here and I doubt it a problem w/ terminal itself. Perhaps your install is borked, try reinstalling, checking for lost/broken depends, etc. I'm sure your're right. I did a reinstall and that didn't change anything. Is there a config file I need to tweak? A daemon I'm not starting? Maybe I'm just not running this thing correctly. Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why there are so many binary packages missing?
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:47:35 -0800 Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote: I am seeing this for a long time. If I use 'portupgrade -aPP' (packages only) there is a very large percentage of packages missing. Upgrading becomes many times faster when binary packages available are available. Presumably it's due to version mismatches. If you are using release packages then portupgrade -aPP only works well with the ports tree snapshot on the install disk. If you are using STABLE packages then there's a lag between the port and the packages, the more frequently you update the less likely you are to get matching packages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's up with gnome-terminal?
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:40:04PM -0800, Rem P Roberti thus spake: On 2009.12.01 19:16:10 +, Adam Vande More wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: Still no joy trying to get gnome-terminal to work. Now when I try to load it I get this error message: ** ERROR:terminal-app.c:1445:terminal_app_init: assertion failed: (app-system_font_desc != NULL) Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) Funny thing is that a year or so ago I used to use gnome-terminal on another installation with no problems. Did something change? Rem Works great here and I doubt it a problem w/ terminal itself. Perhaps your install is borked, try reinstalling, checking for lost/broken depends, etc. I'm sure your're right. I did a reinstall and that didn't change anything. Is there a config file I need to tweak? A daemon I'm not starting? Maybe I'm just not running this thing correctly. Did you rebuild all dependent ports on this application? Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's up with gnome-terminal?
On 2009.12.01 17:43:08 +, Jason wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:40:04PM -0800, Rem P Roberti thus spake: On 2009.12.01 19:16:10 +, Adam Vande More wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: Still no joy trying to get gnome-terminal to work. Now when I try to load it I get this error message: ** ERROR:terminal-app.c:1445:terminal_app_init: assertion failed: (app-system_font_desc != NULL) Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) Funny thing is that a year or so ago I used to use gnome-terminal on another installation with no problems. Did something change? Rem Works great here and I doubt it a problem w/ terminal itself. Perhaps your install is borked, try reinstalling, checking for lost/broken depends, etc. I'm sure your're right. I did a reinstall and that didn't change anything. Is there a config file I need to tweak? A daemon I'm not starting? Maybe I'm just not running this thing correctly. Did you rebuild all dependent ports on this application? I just did a deinstall/reinstall. Not sufficient? What's the procedure for doing a complete rebuild of the dependents? BTW...thanks. Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's up with gnome-terminal?
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:50:07PM -0800, Rem P Roberti thus spake: On 2009.12.01 17:43:08 +, Jason wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:40:04PM -0800, Rem P Roberti thus spake: On 2009.12.01 19:16:10 +, Adam Vande More wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: Still no joy trying to get gnome-terminal to work. Now when I try to load it I get this error message: ** ERROR:terminal-app.c:1445:terminal_app_init: assertion failed: (app-system_font_desc != NULL) Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) Funny thing is that a year or so ago I used to use gnome-terminal on another installation with no problems. Did something change? Rem Works great here and I doubt it a problem w/ terminal itself. Perhaps your install is borked, try reinstalling, checking for lost/broken depends, etc. I'm sure your're right. I did a reinstall and that didn't change anything. Is there a config file I need to tweak? A daemon I'm not starting? Maybe I'm just not running this thing correctly. Did you rebuild all dependent ports on this application? I just did a deinstall/reinstall. Not sufficient? What's the procedure for doing a complete rebuild of the dependents? I use portmaster, but you can use a host of utilities for this. portmaster -r gnome-terminal I would start with that. BTW...thanks. Rem -- Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's up with gnome-terminal?
On 2009.12.01 17:52:24 +, Jason wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:50:07PM -0800, Rem P Roberti thus spake: On 2009.12.01 17:43:08 +, Jason wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 05:40:04PM -0800, Rem P Roberti thus spake: On 2009.12.01 19:16:10 +, Adam Vande More wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: Still no joy trying to get gnome-terminal to work. Now when I try to load it I get this error message: ** ERROR:terminal-app.c:1445:terminal_app_init: assertion failed: (app-system_font_desc != NULL) Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) Funny thing is that a year or so ago I used to use gnome-terminal on another installation with no problems. Did something change? Rem Works great here and I doubt it a problem w/ terminal itself. Perhaps your install is borked, try reinstalling, checking for lost/broken depends, etc. I'm sure your're right. I did a reinstall and that didn't change anything. Is there a config file I need to tweak? A daemon I'm not starting? Maybe I'm just not running this thing correctly. Did you rebuild all dependent ports on this application? I just did a deinstall/reinstall. Not sufficient? What's the procedure for doing a complete rebuild of the dependents? I use portmaster, but you can use a host of utilities for this. portmaster -r gnome-terminal I would start with that. OK...tried that, but the results the same error message when I try to run gnome-terminal. Frustrating. Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's up with gnome-terminal?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: I use portmaster, but you can use a host of utilities for this. portmaster -r gnome-terminal I would start with that. OK...tried that, but the results the same error message when I try to run gnome-terminal. Frustrating. Rem You actually probably want to do an upwards recursive recompile. portupgrade -Rf port You may also reference this page which I think details how to completely remove gnome and start fresh. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's up with gnome-terminal?
On 2009.12.01 20:57:03 +, Adam Vande More wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: I use portmaster, but you can use a host of utilities for this. portmaster -r gnome-terminal I would start with that. OK...tried that, but the results the same error message when I try to run gnome-terminal. Frustrating. Rem You actually probably want to do an upwards recursive recompile. portupgrade -Rf port You may also reference this page which I think details how to completely remove gnome and start fresh. Adam, I'm doing an upward recursive at this time, but I don't see any link in your email to a page such as you describe. Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OT, about 97%... .
Guys, Interesting day, this. I'll only say that somebody--probably just one person who might be computer savvy--or perhaps a small group of guy gals are quite likely scamming tens of thousands out of some serious bux. Let me correct that: they are scamming and have been for many months. I do not want to leave my IP footprints on their site. No real hurry, but I would like to use somebody's browser a couple/few times. I've got a pretty standard DSL: 1m DOWN, 864k UP. You can watch anything I do. I'm assuming that 1. closer to WA state is better and 2. that you're running FreeBSD with Firefox3 ... or some form of 'Nix. thanks much, gary PS: All replies offlist, please. We now return you to your usual geekdom, q's and a's. -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What's up with gnome-terminal?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: On 2009.12.01 20:57:03 +, Adam Vande More wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: I use portmaster, but you can use a host of utilities for this. portmaster -r gnome-terminal I would start with that. OK...tried that, but the results the same error message when I try to run gnome-terminal. Frustrating. Rem You actually probably want to do an upwards recursive recompile. portupgrade -Rf port You may also reference this page which I think details how to completely remove gnome and start fresh. Adam, I'm doing an upward recursive at this time, but I don't see any link in your email to a page such as you describe. Rem http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.0-RELEASE and dangerously dedicated disks
I'm going to just reply to all of these at once. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 07:59:42AM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Peggy Wilkins enli...@gmail.com wrote: Due to history I won't go into, all my production (currently 7.2-RELEASE) systems are installed onto dangerously dedicated disks. What exactly do I need to do to upgrade them to 8.0? (I'm not asking for an upgrade procedure, I'm familiar with that, but rather, how this change impacts the upgrade.) I think that the suggestion that the disks need to be reformatted is extreme and I hope something less extreme will suffice. Just to point out the obvious, you shouldn't use dangerous and production in the same sentence. :) Also, just to be clear, does this statement refer to boot disks, data disks, or both? It doesn't make sense to me that dangerously dedicated could have an impact on UFS filesystems specifically. A partition table is just a partition table, regardless of what filesystems might be written on disks, yes? Am I misunderstanding something here? I don't know why it would have an affect, but they say it does. Did you see all the mailing list chatter about new installations failing due to sysinstall not being able to newfs device names that didn't exist? This is related. Also, a partition table isn't just a partition table. It's a little more complex than that. It has *nothing* to do with the filesystems inside. It has everything to do with the way that FreeBSD looks at the drive to figure out what's on it. See man pages for geom/gpart. There are others that have given a better explanation than I can provide (marcus, juli). Search the archives. Trust me, I didn't remove DD support from sysinstall just to make life more complicated for everyone. I did this because as it stands right now, it doesn't work. I take this to mean that any disk that is created without slice and partition within slice needs to be redone. Probably it can all be done in sysinstall, but you can do it with fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs. Or sade, although sade hasn't yet been updated to reflect the lack of DD support. Just don't use that option. It does not matter if it is a boot disk or just a data disk. It is whether or not it has a (one or more, up to 4) slice defined and within the slice[s] partitions defined which are turned in to filesystems. You can tell by the dev names in /etc/fstab. If they have the full device name /dev/da0s1a, ... da0s1h, they are NOT dangerously dedicated and you should not have to worry. If the machine is dual booted with some MS thing as the other OS, then it is very unlikely that they are dangerously dedicated. But, if they are like /dev/da0 or /dev/da0s1 (but with no 'a, b..h') then they are dangerously dedicated and you need to convert them. What? No. 's1' refers to slice 1 (or partition 1, as you're referring to it). bsdlabel is used inside this slice to create a partition for each mount point (a,b,c, etc). See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/formatting-media/x76.html. This documentation needs to be updated, but at least it'll give you a good explanation of how it used to work. With DD mode, you're creating a label against the drive itself, not a slice within. First you would have to back up the contents of the disk, partition by partition (mountable filesystem by mountable filesystem) however you have it. Since it is 'dangerously dedicated' it is likely you have a single filesystem per disk that needs backing up. Check out that backup to make sure it is readable. There is no going back. The backup can be done to tape or USB external disk or network or any other media that will not be affected, has room and can be written and read from the FreeBSD system. I think you're confusing running newfs against an unlabeled slice with DD mode. See above. DD mode means no slices, just a label for partitions. Not 'a single filesystem'. Snipping how-to on setting up a drive as it's unnecessary. She asked for a less extreme measure. The poster clearly has some idea as to what is going on and probably doesn't need her hand held in setting up a new drive. Thanks for helping to clear up my confusion... plw Peggy, Were you able to find an answer for this? I also have a number of servers and firewalls that use dangerously dedicated disks (boot and data). I don't see why UFS would care if it's mounted from ad1a vs. ad1s1a. It's not a filesystem thing. See above. -- randi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How known?
In the last episode (Dec 01), Gary Kline said: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:05:17PM -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Dec 1, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Gary Kline wrote: Most mail user agents have an option to enable read receipts; they use (or abuse) the DSN or MDN capabilities of the recipient's MTA or MUA. They are not a reliable signal that a human has seen the mail, although they can be used to confirm it at least got to the recipient's mail server or were processed by their MUA. What are DSN and MDN, please? Delivery Status Notification, Message Disposition Notification Wow; amazing. i'Ve been checking thru /usr/local/etc/Muttrc and found something interesting. This, circa lins #2900 ++: # Specifies how to sort messages in the index menu. Valid values # are: # #date or date-sent #date-received #from #mailbox-order (unsorted) #score #size #subject #threads #to but nowhere to specify the date-received. Strange, yes? hm? 2nd line says date-received. Or did you mean something else? wait::: dsn # set dsn_notify= # # Name: dsn_notify # Type: string # Default: # Be nice to suggest to the mutt folks to let this be turned on only for certain email. I *have* tried to sub to the mutt mailinglist, but never get any responce. AFAIK, there is no forum, so maybe it's time to roll my own hack! Not even a bounce message back? That's odd. You can try posting to the list via the gmane interface, or join the #mutt irc channel on irc.freenode.net and see if anyone can help there. The mutt method for changing options based on specific criteria is called hooks. In your case, you want to use a send hook like this: send-hook . set dsn_notify=none send-hook ~t u...@host.com set dsn_notify=failure,delay,success Note that dsn is only delivery notification; it doesn't let you know that a message has been read. For that, you can try send-hook . unmy_hdr Disposition-Notification-To: send-hook ~t u...@host.com my_hdr Disposition-Notification-To: m...@email.com , but even if your recipient's mailer understands that header, most let the user turn it off if they want. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to remove HAL dependencies in gnome2
At 02:01 PM 12/1/2009, Mark Kane wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009, at 12:41:07 -0600, Derek Ragona wrote: I source upgraded a server from 7.2 release to 8.0 release. In trying to rebuild all the ports, HAL is broken and won't compile. If I try to make config on most of those ports there is no HAL in the config. How do I get rid of these dependencies so I can get the last of the ports rebuilt? These ports all seem to be part of gnome2. Hi. I'm not sure why it wasn't more clearly announced as being required for the 8.0 upgrade specifically, however following the 20090309 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING (mainly removing the libusb port) should allow HAL to build again. Hope that helps, -Mark Thanks Mark for pointing this out. I had read UPDATING and missed this reference. I even searched through UPDATING for hal and hald references. I'm glad it was something simple, as I have all the ports updated now. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.0-RELEASE and dangerously dedicated disks
Did you see all the mailing list chatter about new installations failing due to sysinstall not being able to newfs device names that didn't exist? This is related. Also, a partition table isn't just a partition table. It's a little more complex than that. It has *nothing* to do with the filesystems inside. It has everything to do with the way that FreeBSD looks at the drive to figure out what's on it. See man pages for geom/gpart. There are others that have given a better explanation than I can provide (marcus, juli). Search the archives. Trust me, I didn't remove DD support from sysinstall just to make life more complicated for everyone. I did this because as it stands right now, it doesn't work. Sigh, correction. marcel, not marcus. -- randi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How known?
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 10:39:03PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Dec 01), Gary Kline said: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:05:17PM -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Dec 1, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Gary Kline wrote: Most mail user agents have an option to enable read receipts; they use (or abuse) the DSN or MDN capabilities of the recipient's MTA or MUA. They are not a reliable signal that a human has seen the mail, although they can be used to confirm it at least got to the recipient's mail server or were processed by their MUA. What are DSN and MDN, please? Delivery Status Notification, Message Disposition Notification Wow; amazing. i'Ve been checking thru /usr/local/etc/Muttrc and found something interesting. This, circa lins #2900 ++: # [[ ... ]] Be nice to suggest to the mutt folks to let this be turned on only for certain email. I *have* tried to sub to the mutt mailinglist, but never get any responce. AFAIK, there is no forum, so maybe it's time to roll my own hack! Not even a bounce message back? That's odd. You can try posting to the list via the gmane interface, or join the #mutt irc channel on irc.freenode.net and see if anyone can help there. No bounceback, nada. I'm wondering if it's dead for the time being. I haven't a clue about the irc stuff. --- The mutt method for changing options based on specific criteria is called hooks. In your case, you want to use a send hook like this: send-hook . set dsn_notify=none send-hook ~t u...@host.com set dsn_notify=failure,delay,success Note that dsn is only delivery notification; it doesn't let you know that a message has been read. For that, you can try send-hook . unmy_hdr Disposition-Notification-To: send-hook ~t u...@host.com my_hdr Disposition-Notification-To: m...@email.com , but even if your recipient's mailer understands that header, most let the user turn it off if they want. I'm certainly guilty of not having read the entire Muttrc, but do not understand the hook options. I'll google around for info and look at the FAW on the mutt site. Really, it isn't *that* important. It is an option that would be nice to have. But not that often. gary -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
which is the better way...?
it is better to pkg_delete OOo-301 or just cd to /usr/local and /bin/rm -r it from there? this time i'll make a not of the preferred way of cleaning out the old stuff.. -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Child Foundation Newsletter December - Zahra's Story
To view this email online, paste this link into your browser: http://e2ma.net/map/view=CampaignPublic/id=1402856.6553058397/rid=d2b3ac73edc31d52a4d679001401945f ___ Dear Friend, We at Child Foundation would like to wish you and your family a very safe and happy holiday season. Indeed, we have plenty to enjoy during this time, our families, our friends, our health, and all the wonderful opportunities that are available to us everyday. Please consider taking a moment to share your good fortune with a child who really needs it. A child like Zahra whose single mother is forced to battle cancer and poverty at the same time needs your help. Please consider sponsoring a child like her today as one way of giving back for all that you have and enjoy in your life. Zahra's Story Zahra, a four year old girl, along with her brother, who is a second-grade student in elementary school and their mother live in a basement that is not suitable for living. Zahra's father passed away due to meningitis four years ago. Their mother has cancer and has become more ill, but is the only person to look after Zahra and her brother.In spite of being treated with chemotherapy and surgery, Zahra's mother still has a cancerous lump in her body, which requires another surgery. Due to her health problems, and very little income, this family has been facing a very difficult life. Thanks to the help from sponsors, Zahra's family has some assistance now. There are many children like Zahra that need sponsors. View our Child Waiting List today ( http://e2ma.net/go/6553058397/208054318/209720157/1402856/goto:http://www.childfoundation.org/ChildWaitingList/tabid/967/Default.aspx ) Mahdi's Story Mahdi lives in the city of Mazar-e-sharif. He is nine years old and enjoys school. Mahdi's father was arrested during a Taliban upraising and there is no news about him yet. Currently, he lives with his grandfather who is ill and has no steady income. They live in a very poor one room dwelling with no amenities. Mahdi enjoys biking and drawing and greatly needs your support. Please consider sponsoring Mahdi today so that he has a chance for a brighter future. Sponsor Mahdi ( http://e2ma.net/go/6553058397/208054318/209720158/1402856/goto:https://www.childfoundation.org/Default.aspx?TabId=105 ) (type in file #CF153) Successful Recent Events Universal Children's Day As the world recognized Universal Children's Day, Child Foundation promoted and coordinated this special day to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the Declaration of the Rights of the Child by the UN General Assembly, to promote international togetherness and awareness among children worldwide. At the event, nearly 140 guests attended a lunch reception at the Camden House banquet room in Beverly Hills. Attendees enjoyed the music by Rojeh and his four-member band. Then a CF promo was screened and it was followed by a short speech by CF Board Member Mr. Peyman Raoofi. Guests enjoyed entertainment including live performances by Nima and Enayat. Next door to the event there was a room designated for children's entertainment. A clown entertained kids with his balloon sculptures and Mojan, a CF volunteer did a great job with her face painting. Kids also enjoyed gifts and a Charlie Chaplin replica. President-elect of the Los Angeles County Psychological Association (LACPA), Dr. Amy Rosett, was among the distinguished guests. She made a donation to Child Foundation at the event. Child Foundation was able to successfully sponsor 18 kids and raise money to help children in need. CF received support from the following Persian Media: JameJam Tv, Time TV, Iranian TV, PEN TV, Omid e Iran TV, Radio 670am, Javanan Magazine, Hafteh Bazaar Magazine, and Yellow Pages Melli. All of this was possible with great team work and help from dedicated CF volunteers who planned and organized the event. Children's Concert to Benefit Child Foundation The Concert For Kids was a new event in the Beaverton community. It was held on November 17th at Beaverton High School. The event was a school project by Babak Seyed Shakeri that evolved into something else. The concert started becoming less of a project and more of a mission. The concert performers were teens and children from the local area including Pevyand and Payam, and a violin duet. There was also a dance performance by The Persian Dance Academy and a local 12 year old singer. The goal was to raise $1000 dollars for children in need. That night alone, over $1100 dollars was raised for Child Foundation. In addition to raising the money, we also raised awareness and changed children's lives. Dubai Charity BazaarChild Foundation in Dubai held a Charity Bazaar at Azad University on November 19th. This event was well attended and many local and Persian owned
