ruby cpu 100% hang during pkgdb -F

2011-03-29 Thread Roland van Laar
Hello, I updated FreeBSD 8.0 to 8.2 with freebsd-update. Everything went fine till I got to the ports: I used the commands: # portupgrade -f ruby # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb portupgrade -f ruby gave problems because of a security issue. So I updated the ports with

Tape drive for backup soloution

2011-03-29 Thread William Brown
Hi I need to implement a tape drive backup solution at my place of work. I was wondering what is a good tape drive to get for this task, that works on freebsd with something like amanda. Its for a small business, and storing about 4TB max, and hopefully with some room spare for differential

Re: Tape drive for backup soloution

2011-03-29 Thread Gour
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:56:18 +1030 William Brown william.e.br...@adelaide.edu.au wrote: Are there any recommendations that you can make about compatible solutions. My knowledge in this area is limited. My needs are not so big and I use HP Ultrium 448 (LTO-2) drive, but I'm sure that buying

printf() leak?

2011-03-29 Thread David Demelier
Hello, It seems printf() always alloc something and does not free it: #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h int main(void) { printf(Hi\n); return 0; } and valgrind ./a.out: ==67840== ==67840== HEAP SUMMARY: ==67840== in use at exit: 4,096 bytes in 1 blocks ==67840== total heap

Re: printf() leak?

2011-03-29 Thread Eitan Adler
Hi David, It seems printf() always alloc something and does not free it: What compiler and what optimizations? Most compilers will optimize a printf without any special formatting into a puts call instead of a printf call. For example clang -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer (which I use for clarity

Re: printf() leak?

2011-03-29 Thread David Demelier
On 29/03/2011 09:59, Eitan Adler wrote: Hi David, It seems printf() always alloc something and does not free it: What compiler and what optimizations? Most compilers will optimize a printf without any special formatting into a puts call instead of a printf call. I was using clang / gcc

Re: Can't rebuild kernel with ZFS v15

2011-03-29 Thread krad
On 28 March 2011 10:37, Andre Goree an...@drenet.info wrote: Hello, Ever since I upgraded to 8.2 a few weeks ago, I can't seem to rebuild my kernel without it being built with ZFS v14 rather than v15. This is a problem because I'm using root on ZFS and my box won't boot after the kernel

Re: Can't rebuild kernel with ZFS v15

2011-03-29 Thread Andre Goree
Thank you for responding. For two reasons I know it's running zfs v14 after the rebuild: 1) During boot, a message shows: ZFS Filesystem version 4 ZFS Storage pool version 14 2) After getting to the failed root mount point of the boot (after it fails to mount my zfs root), I enter:

Re: reverse dns in bind9

2011-03-29 Thread Tim Dunphy
hey guys, ok I fixed the reverse zone file and now it's working perfectly! @ IN SOA ns1.summitnjhome.com. bluethundr.gmail.com. ( 2011032901 ;serial 14400 ;refresh 3600 ;retry 604800 ;expire 10800;minimum )

Using /etc/rc.d/netif start

2011-03-29 Thread Nerius Landys
First off, I'm on 9.0-CURRENT-i386, but I don't think that will make a difference for purposes of my question. I think the freebsd-current folks are expecting questions that are much harder than this one. I'm trying to use /etc/rc.d/netif to bring down and bring back up all network interfaces,

Re: Using /etc/rc.d/netif start

2011-03-29 Thread Jason Helfman
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:40:19AM -0700, Nerius Landys thus spake: First off, I'm on 9.0-CURRENT-i386, but I don't think that will make a difference for purposes of my question. I think the freebsd-current folks are expecting questions that are much harder than this one. I'm trying to use

Re: Using /etc/rc.d/netif start

2011-03-29 Thread Nerius Landys
In my experience, I've found it best to restart 'routing,' as well. /etc/rc.d/routing restart Yes indeed thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any

Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Jason Hsu
I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word processing, etc.). But the challenge of BSD have so far proven too much for me. It would take too long to configure FreeBSD to my liking. I

RE: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Gary Gatten
I've always heard PC-BSD is the way to go on the desktop, so if that's not going too well then I'm not sure. I don't think there is a BSD that Paris and Jessica would be able to install. Then again, that's not really what made them noteworthy. -Original Message- From:

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:45:27PM -0500, Jason Hsu wrote: I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word processing, etc.). But the challenge of BSD have so far proven too much for me.

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:45:27PM -0500, Jason Hsu wrote: I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word processing, etc.). But the challenge of BSD have so far proven too much for me.

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Chip Camden
So what do you recommend as my first desktop BSD distro? What desktop BSD distro is so easy to use that even Paris Hilton or Jessica Chicken of the Sea Simpson can handle it? To each their own, but I wouldn't want a system that Paris Hilton could handle any more than I'd want a vehicle that

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread William Brown
On 30/03/2011, at 07:15, Chip Camden wrote: So what do you recommend as my first desktop BSD distro? What desktop BSD distro is so easy to use that even Paris Hilton or Jessica Chicken of the Sea Simpson can handle it? To each their own, but I wouldn't want a system that Paris Hilton

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Nerius Landys
But the challenge of BSD have so far proven too much for me.  It would take too long to configure FreeBSD to my liking.  I couldn't figure out what to enter in GRUB to multi-boot Linux and BSD.  I tried PC-BSD, GhostBSD, and DragonflyBSD in VirtualBox.  I've found PC-BSD agonizingly slow to

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth William Brown on Wednesday, 30 March 2011: On 30/03/2011, at 07:15, Chip Camden wrote: So what do you recommend as my first desktop BSD distro? What desktop BSD distro is so easy to use that even Paris Hilton or Jessica Chicken of the Sea Simpson can handle it? To each

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Gökşin Akdeniz
...I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word processing, etc.). There is no distro in BSDworld. BSD family is complete operating system. Linux distros are a combination of a kernel and all the tools necessary

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:23:48PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth William Brown on Wednesday, 30 March 2011: On 30/03/2011, at 07:15, Chip Camden wrote: So what do you recommend as my first desktop BSD distro? What desktop BSD distro is so easy to use that even Paris Hilton or

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:45:27 -0500, Jason Hsu jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com wrote: I want to learn BSD. I may emphasize the word LEARN. You'll see why later on. :-) I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word

Re: opening a shared object / failing with Undefined Symbol.

2011-03-29 Thread Jim
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Jim stapleton...@gmail.com wrote: I have an application that opens two .so files with dlopen(3):  /usr/local/lib/libag_core.so  /usr/local/lib/libag_gui.so Both files exist

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:39:36 -0400, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Just a nit here -- I would think of BSD as less cluttered rather than simpler. The definition of simple is individual, it depends on present knowledge and the ability of thinking (concluding, deriving,

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On March 29, 2011 2:23:48 PM -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth William Brown on Wednesday, 30 March 2011: On 30/03/2011, at 07:15, Chip Camden wrote: So what do you recommend as my first desktop BSD distro? What desktop BSD distro is so easy to use that even

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Charlie Kester
On Tue 29 Mar 2011 at 13:59:44 PDT Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:45:27PM -0500, Jason Hsu wrote: I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word processing, etc.). But the

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:43:47 -0500, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: It might even be useful to have an initial screen that offers options such as Experienced User, Minimal Prompts, Familiar User, Additional Prompts and First Time User, Walk me through it step by step. Even

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:16:37 -0700, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: To really learn any operating system, you have to approach it on its own terms and be willing to accept that it has its own way of doing things. Its own idioms and paradigms. It has its own history of design

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:00:07 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated: On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:39:36 -0400, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Just a nit here -- I would think of BSD as less cluttered rather than simpler. The definition of simple is individual, it depends on

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:23:19 -0400, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: Your approach to the problem neglects to factor in each individual's own level of expertise and desires. I can just speak from my individual point of view. I do NOT claim that my experiences and knowledge are universal.

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Polytropon on Wednesday, 30 March 2011: T: (a deep sigh while rolling his eyes) No, that's not the fuel, that's the tachometer. It is supposed to point at zero if the car is not started. The fuel indicator is usually to the left and smaller that the tachometer, and it should

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Antonio Olivares
It's the same with computers. No matter what you want to do with it, there IS something you need to learn, either BEFORE you use it, or WHILE you're using it. With some simple means, i. e. using the brain, reading, concluding, understanding, THINKING, you're fine in this regards - because

Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:56:14 -0700, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Polytropon on Wednesday, 30 March 2011: T: (a deep sigh while rolling his eyes) No, that's not the fuel, that's the tachometer. It is supposed to point at zero if the car is not started. The

how to enforce password change at first login

2011-03-29 Thread Michael
Hi, How can I enforce a user to change his password at first login? I want to set up ssh access for my friends but I don't want to know their passwords. And I don't trust they will change it just because I've asked to do so. I was thinking I can create account with random password and

Random kernel blocking loop message (btx halted)

2011-03-29 Thread David Demelier
Hi folks, Sometimes (really rare), when I boot these messages appears in a infinite loop : http://markand.malikania.fr/Photo0393.jpg These messages are printed so fast that I can't read it, happily Scroll lock key let me take a picture. When this appears I have no solution instead

Re: how to enforce password change at first login

2011-03-29 Thread Yuri Pankov
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 06:10:11AM +0100, Michael wrote: Hi, How can I enforce a user to change his password at first login? I want to set up ssh access for my friends but I don't want to know their passwords. And I don't trust they will change it just because I've asked to do so. I