Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread perryh
Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: imiho, zfs can not be called production ready if it crashes if you do not stand on your left leg, put your right hand in the air, and burn some eye of newt. ROFL! As with any open-source project, I suppose it will be ready when it is ready. At least it hasn't

Re: whats best pracfive for ZFS on a whole disc these days ?

2009-11-21 Thread Marius Nünnerich
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 23:20, Daniel O'Connor docon...@gsoft.com.au wrote: On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Marius Nünnerich wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 14:27, Daniel O'Connor docon...@gsoft.com.au wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Marius Nünnerich wrote: Actually that is an interesting point, the swap

RE: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread Johan Hendriks
Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: imiho, zfs can not be called production ready if it crashes if you do not stand on your left leg, put your right hand in the air, and burn some eye of newt. This is not a rant, but where do you read that on FreeBSD 7.2 ZFS has been marked as production ready. As

Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:07:40PM +0100, Johan Hendriks wrote: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: imiho, zfs can not be called production ready if it crashes if you do not stand on your left leg, put your right hand in the air, and burn some eye of newt. This is not a rant, but where do

Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread Scot Hetzel
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:07:40PM +0100, Johan Hendriks wrote: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: imiho, zfs can not be called production ready if it crashes if you do not stand on your left leg, put your right

Re: whats best pracfive for ZFS on a whole disc these days ?

2009-11-21 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Marius Nünnerich wrote: Maybe. Could you paste kern.geom.confdot, kern.geom.confxml and mount output to pastie.org or the like. I've attached it.. Hmm, I do not see whats wrong here. ZFS already opened the devices and I see no /dev/gpt/* entries. Maybe there is some

Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Nov-21 09:47:56 +0900, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: imiho, zfs can not be called production ready if it crashes if you do not stand on your left leg, put your right hand in the air, and burn some eye of newt. FWIW, it's still very brittle on Solaris 10 and the Sun Support response to

Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread Randy Bush
imiho, zfs can not be called production ready if it crashes if you do not stand on your left leg, put your right hand in the air, and burn some eye of newt. ROFL! As with any open-source project, I suppose it will be ready when it is ready. At least it hasn't been made the default. yep. i

Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread Randy Bush
imiho, zfs can not be called production ready if it crashes if you do not stand on your left leg, put your right hand in the air, and burn some eye of newt. This is not a rant, but where do you read that on FreeBSD 7.2 ZFS has been marked as production ready. As far as i know, on FreeBSD 8.0

Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread pluknet
2009/11/21 Peter Jeremy peterjer...@acm.org: On 2009-Nov-21 09:47:56 +0900, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: imiho, zfs can not be called production ready if it crashes if you do not stand on your left leg, put your right hand in the air, and burn some eye of newt. FWIW, it's still very brittle

Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread Randy Bush
My understanding is that the problem is more that the FreeBSD VM system doesn't gracefully handle running low or out of memory. to me, that's just life in the big city. the problem i think can be solved before this is let loose on the unsuspecting public is that there are really no good tools

Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 01:59:11PM -0600, Scot Hetzel wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:07:40PM +0100, Johan Hendriks wrote: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: imiho, zfs can not be called production ready if

Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread Randy Bush
Everyone's workloads are different, but the panic is the same every time: kmem exhaustion. i386 with KVA_PAGES or amd64 -- happens on both. It's highly dependent upon workload and what the filesystem consists of (many files vs. fewer files but larger in size, etc.) these are measurable. at

Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread Marco van Tol
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 06:16:04PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: imiho, zfs can not be called production ready if it crashes if you do not stand on your left leg, put your right hand in the air, and burn some eye of newt. ROFL! As with any open-source project, I suppose it will be ready

Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 04:29:26PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 01:59:11PM -0600, Scot Hetzel wrote: RELENG_7 and RELENG_8 both, more or less, behave the same way with regards to ZFS.  Both panic on kmem exhaustion.  No one has answered my question as far as

MFC of r198284 to 7-STABLE

2009-11-21 Thread Oliver Pinter
commit 4a6ea694eaad85c9ff99668ba7427c00cea3e990 Author: kib k...@ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f Date: Tue Oct 20 13:34:41 2009 + MFC r197934: Map PIE binaries at non-zero base address. MFC r198202: Honour non-zero mapbase for PIE binaries. Inform interpreter-less PIE

Pulse Meter with Cellular communication

2009-11-21 Thread Exemys
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8.0-RC USB problem -- how to recover a damaged USB stick

2009-11-21 Thread Guojun Jin
It seems this is more serious problem in 8.0, and I hope it could be resolved before a formal release. I can help to diagnose this if people need more information (this is destructive). I have picked a USB stick (DataTraveler 2GB), that has two partitions s0 for DOS and s1 for FreeBSD. Both

Re: 8.0-RC USB/FS problem

2009-11-21 Thread Guojun Jin
Tried on the USB hard drive: Deleted slice 3 and recreated slice 3 with two partitions s3d and s3e. Was happy because successfully did dump/restore on s3d, and thought it just partition format issue; but system crashed during dump/restore on s3e, and partition lost the file system type. wolf#

Re: 7.2 dies in zfs

2009-11-21 Thread Adam McDougall
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:36:43AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:07:40PM +0100, Johan Hendriks wrote: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: imiho, zfs can not be called production ready if it crashes if you do not stand on your left leg, put your right hand in

panic in 7.2 (ffs_alloc.c?)

2009-11-21 Thread Charles Sprickman
Howdy, I'm not expert at getting info out of a dump, but I'll do my best to provide some information. This is a Dell PE2970 w/PERC6/i RAID running FreeBSD 7.2/amd64. Brand new box, has been doing very light work for about two weeks. Last night I started a very long mstone run on a jailed