Re: problem with nmap

2012-06-01 Thread Andrey S. Rybak
Installing libpcap from ports does not help. Error message is same. Running nmap with -dd yield next: Starting Nmap 6.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2012-06-01 05:42 EEST Fetchfile found /usr/local/share/nmap/nmap-services PORTS: Using top 1000 ports found open (TCP:1000, UDP:0, SCTP:0) Fetchfile

Re: [ GSOC ] Differences in shell behaviour

2012-06-01 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
Hello. On 06/01/2012 05:47, Doug Barton wrote: On 5/31/2012 12:21 PM, Alexander Pronin wrote: But, is it suitable to write sh script for 9.0, that does not work in 8.3? No. Our tools need to work in all supported versions of FreeBSD, which at this time includes 7 as well. I see two

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 31.05.12 18:41, Damien Fleuriot wrote: You missed the bit about 3 reboots, while these don't take 15 mins each, they're still time consuming and disruptive. 1/ reboot after installing new kernel 2/ reboot after installing new world 3/ reboot after rebuilding ports About the only time I

PFsync firewall states updates (was: Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?)

2012-06-01 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 5/31/12 9:51 PM, Nick Gustas wrote: On 5/31/2012 12:52 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 5/31/12 6:37 PM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: On 5/31/2012 5:41 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: Furthermore, when upgrading the CARP Master firewall, we need to plan with the Project Manager a failover to the CARP

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-01 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 5/31/12 8:13 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 31/05/2012 16:41, Damien Fleuriot wrote: You missed the bit about 3 reboots, while these don't take 15 mins each, they're still time consuming and disruptive. 1/ reboot after installing new kernel 2/ reboot after installing new world 3/ reboot

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-01 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 6/1/12 8:54 AM, Daniel Kalchev wrote: On 31.05.12 18:41, Damien Fleuriot wrote: You missed the bit about 3 reboots, while these don't take 15 mins each, they're still time consuming and disruptive. 1/ reboot after installing new kernel 2/ reboot after installing new world 3/ reboot

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 01/06/2012 09:16, Damien Fleuriot wrote: The reason I rebuild the ports last is because, unless I'm wrong, any port that's statically linked to a system library would be linked to the old library from the old world. Uh -- if it's statically linked, then the object code is copied from the

[releng_9 tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc

2012-06-01 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-01 06:08:29 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-06-01 06:08:29 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Sep 28 13:48:49 UTC 2011 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-06-01

Config ipv4 and ipv6 aliases

2012-06-01 Thread Thomas Krause
Hi, (I'm using FreeBSD 9.0-REL). ifconfig_em0_ipv6_alias0 doesn't work. I've to use ifconfig_em0_alias0 for both ipv4 and ipv6. This is not consequent. My working config looks like this: ifconfig_em0=inet 192.168.100.50/28 ifconfig_em0_ipv6=inet6 2a00:abcd:0:405::2/64 ifconfig_em0_alias0=inet

[releng_9 tinderbox] failure on powerpc64/powerpc

2012-06-01 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-01 06:34:47 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-06-01 06:34:47 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Sep 28 13:48:49 UTC 2011 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-06-01

Re: Config ipv4 and ipv6 aliases

2012-06-01 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 1. Jun 2012, at 09:29 , Thomas Krause wrote: Hi, (I'm using FreeBSD 9.0-REL). ifconfig_em0_ipv6_alias0 doesn't work. I've to use ifconfig_em0_alias0 for both ipv4 and ipv6. This is not consequent. It is actually a lot more consistent now that way than it was ever before. The reason

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-01 Thread Katinka
There's a nice discussion going on, over at Phoronix. http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?71263 For some reason, they don't seem to like us very much. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-01 Thread Adam Strohl
On 6/1/2012 17:19, Katinka wrote: There's a nice discussion going on, over at Phoronix. http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?71263 For some reason, they don't seem to like us very much. Lots of the comments remind me about Linux vs. Windows in the late 90s, and taken with a grain of

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-01 Thread Jason Leschnik
I think this iterates my point on the Forums.. To gain critical mass FreeBSD needs to start showing some benchmarks and numbers to back up the advocacy claims. I think this will also give the dev team technical direction to get back into grind of tweaking for performance and not just features. I

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-01 Thread Adam Strohl
On 6/1/2012 18:03, Jason Leschnik wrote: I may be totally incorrect with my above ideas, but it's what i would like to see from FreeBSD *again*... This is the reason in the first place most people used FreeBSD, stability/scalability/performance are the hallmarks of FreeBSD. If we have these hard

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 01.06.12 13:19, Katinka wrote: There's a nice discussion going on, over at Phoronix. http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?71263 For some reason, they don't seem to like us very much. Do we really care? The number of really bright people, or even people who are able to reasonably

Gnome consume 100% cpu FreeBSD_9.0

2012-06-01 Thread Shiv. NK
Dear Community Members, It is FreeBSD 9.0 release, system was functioning normal for many months now. Today I enabled Xserver in “/etc/rc.conf” gdm_enable=YES gnome_enable=YES After 5 minutes of booting some process start killing the cpu, than eventually with in 7 minutes, processor get stack

Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
Dear All , There is a thread Why Are You Using FreeBSD ? I think another thread with the specified subject 'Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? may be useful : If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some areas , would you please list those areas with most important first to least

Re: Gnome consume 100% cpu FreeBSD_9.0

2012-06-01 Thread Holger Kipp
Hi, Am 01.06.2012 um 13:48 schrieb Shiv. NK: Dear Community Members, It is FreeBSD 9.0 release, system was functioning normal for many months now. Today I enabled Xserver in /etc/rc.conf gdm_enable=YES gnome_enable=YES After 5 minutes of booting some process start killing the cpu,

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! I think another thread with the specified subject 'Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? may be useful : - Exchange (MAPI) and its groupware functionality I'm eager to test any replacement that will pop up in the ports 8-) - Windows Terminalserver functionality - Telephony (ISDN to SIP

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-01 Thread Thomas Steen Rasmussen
On 01-06-2012 13:39, Daniel Kalchev wrote: Instead, lead by example. Showcase. Demonstrate how superior FreeBSD is because the people who keep it going are not interested to be the Jack of All Trades (and master of none). Showcase implementations that are hard to do with any other OS. This.

Re: Gnome consume 100% cpu FreeBSD_9.0 - Resolved !!!

2012-06-01 Thread Shiv. NK
Hi, Am 01.06.2012 um 13:48 schrieb Shiv. NK: Dear Community Members, It is FreeBSD 9.0 release, system was functioning normal for many months now. Today I enabled Xserver in /etc/rc.conf gdm_enable=YES gnome_enable=YES After 5 minutes of booting some process start killing the cpu,

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 01.06.12 15:15, Kurt Jaeger wrote: - Telephony (ISDN to SIP gateways, Asterisk etc) -- I know, Hans Petter Selasky is doing wonderful work in that area, I had no time to dive into this. Asterisk (tested up to v 10) works wonderfully on FreeBSD. Mine even runs in jail. The few gateways

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some areas , would you please list those areas with most important first to least important last ? Although we would like to we cant use FreeBSD to run some Linux based

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Florian Smeets
On 06/01/2012 14:15, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! I think another thread with the specified subject 'Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? may be useful : - Telephony (ISDN to SIP gateways, Asterisk etc) -- I know, Hans Petter Selasky is doing wonderful work in that area, I had no time to dive

Re: IPv6 and CARP crashes boxes

2012-06-01 Thread Jim Pingle
On 5/31/2012 5:31 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 31 May 2012, at 22:31, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: On 31 May 2012 06:42, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote: Hey list, The thread about Why Are You Using FreeBSD, listing the pros and cons of FBSD, has brought back a topic to mind.

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Phil Regnauld
Daniel Kalchev (daniel) writes: It will sure be interesting to learn what people avoid to use FreeBSD for. * full virtualization I am using VirtualBox in production with HAST + ZVOLs, but we need something like DRBD's dual master mode to be able to do a

Installworld and /usr/include/*.h modification times

2012-06-01 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
Hello list, Why are /usr/include files installed with install -C during make installworld when almost everything else is installed without the -C flag? This makes it harder to track which files were actually installed during the last make installworld. One can easily find obsolete files (that

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread animelovin
On 06/01/2012 09:12 AM, Phil Regnauld wrote: Daniel Kalchev (daniel) writes: It will sure be interesting to learn what people avoid to use FreeBSD for. * full virtualization I am using VirtualBox in production with HAST + ZVOLs, but we need something like

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Oliver Fromme
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote: If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some areas , would you please list those areas with most important first to least important last ? ISDN. This is popular in Germany, but I don't know about the rest of the world. We have a

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread uki
Hi, The only reason I'm not using FreeBSD for everything (games) is because it does not support (yet) intel/ati graphic drivers. ;) Cheers, Łukasz Gruner ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Nomen Nescio
Dear All , There is a thread Why Are You Using FreeBSD ? I think another thread with the specified subject 'Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? may be useful : If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some areas , would you please list those areas with most important first to

Support for Intel 82599ES?

2012-06-01 Thread Rick Miller
Hi All, I did not see the Intel 82599ES chipset in the hardware release notes for 8.3 or 9.0. Are these controllers supported at this time? -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
For me it is the lack of support for suspend/resume on laptops. I don't want to turn off my laptop when I am in the middle of doing something but need to put the laptop aside. I love using FreeBSD on servers, workstations and even a computer I have hooked to the TV at home for multimedia purpose,

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Chris Nehren
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:03:26 -0700 , Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: Dear All , There is a thread Why Are You Using FreeBSD ? I think another thread with the specified subject 'Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? may be useful : If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some

Re: Support for Intel 82599ES?

2012-06-01 Thread Jack Vogel
Yes, it is supported in the ixgbe driver. Jack On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Rick Miller vmil...@hostileadmin.comwrote: Hi All, I did not see the Intel 82599ES chipset in the hardware release notes for 8.3 or 9.0. Are these controllers supported at this time? -- Take care Rick

Re: Support for Intel 82599ES?

2012-06-01 Thread Rick Miller
Thanks, Jack! Also another support question for the listsIs the Broadcom BCM5719 supported? I can find neither in the hardware notes for 8.3 nor 9.0. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Jack Vogel jfvo...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it is supported in the ixgbe driver. Jack On Fri, Jun 1, 2012

Re: Support for Intel 82599ES?

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Butler
On 06/01/12 13:06, Rick Miller wrote: Thanks, Jack! Also another support question for the listsIs the Broadcom BCM5719 supported? I can find neither in the hardware notes for 8.3 nor 9.0. man bge ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Support for Intel 82599ES?

2012-06-01 Thread Rick Miller
Thanks, Michael! I took a look at the manpage and it does appear that it is supported by the bge driver. It also states that the 572x controller is also supported, but I heard a rumor stating that the BCM5720 in particular did not work even though the manpage indicates it is supported. I was

Re: Installworld and /usr/include/*.h modification times

2012-06-01 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com writes: Why are /usr/include files installed with install -C during make installworld when almost everything else is installed without the -C flag? This makes it harder to track which files were actually installed during the last make installworld. One can

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Etienne Robillard
On 06/01/2012 11:59 AM, Chris Nehren wrote: On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:03:26 -0700 , Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: Dear All , There is a thread Why Are You Using FreeBSD ? I think another thread with the specified subject 'Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? may be useful : If you are NOT

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Michael R. Wayne
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:03:26AM -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some areas , would you please list those areas with most important first to least important last ? As mentioned by several others, once you have a single applicaiton that

Re: Support for Intel 82599ES?

2012-06-01 Thread Sean Bruno
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 10:45 -0700, Rick Miller wrote: BCM5720 I haven't gotten this working on my Dell R620 via bge(4), but we are actively working on it. Sean ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Chris Nehren
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 13:56:45 -0400 , Michael R. Wayne wrote: On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:03:26AM -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some areas , would you please list those areas with most important first to least important last ? As

Re: Installworld and /usr/include/*.h modification times

2012-06-01 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-stable-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com writes: Why are /usr/include files installed with install -C during make installworld  when almost everything else is installed without the -C flag? This makes it

[releng_9 tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc

2012-06-01 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-01 15:24:58 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-06-01 15:24:58 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Sep 28 13:48:49 UTC 2011 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-06-01

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-01 Thread Fritz Wuehler
There's a nice discussion going on, over at Phoronix. http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?71263 For some reason, they don't seem to like us very much. ALL of the PC performance weenies run Windows. They're totally stupid when it comes to software and all they care about is the Windows

[releng_9 tinderbox] failure on powerpc64/powerpc

2012-06-01 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-01 15:59:08 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-06-01 15:59:08 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Sep 28 13:48:49 UTC 2011 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-06-01

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Thomas David Rivers
We used to have FreeBSD exclusively on desktops... Now, we have migrated to other desktops (mac) with FreeBSD running the build and file server... Why? Because - the mac updates itself! No pain, no installation, no keeping-up with mailing lists/announcements, just click and its done. Mac OS

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Chris Rees
On 1 June 2012 16:20, Nomen Nescio nob...@dizum.com wrote: Dear All , There is a thread Why Are You Using FreeBSD ? I think another thread with the specified subject   'Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? may be useful : If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some areas , would you

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Lars Engels
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 08:32:08PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: On 1 June 2012 16:20, Nomen Nescio nob...@dizum.com wrote: Dear All , There is a thread Why Are You Using FreeBSD ? I think another thread with the specified subject   'Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? may be useful :

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Ron McDowell
On 6/1/12 1:57 PM, Thomas David Rivers wrote: We used to have FreeBSD exclusively on desktops... Now, we have migrated to other desktops (mac) with FreeBSD running the build and file server... Why? Because - the mac updates itself! No pain, no installation, no keeping-up with mailing

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 6/1/2012 1:57 PM, Thomas David Rivers wrote: One developer here uses Linux Debian for about the same reason, it's trivial to update (via the network) to new versions, etc... FWIW, there is freebsd-update(8) now for binary updating of base, and pkgng[1] will allow binary upgrading of

pkgng (Was: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?)

2012-06-01 Thread Chris Nehren
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 14:50:22 -0500 , Bryan Drewery wrote: FWIW, there is freebsd-update(8) now for binary updating of base, and pkgng[1] will allow binary upgrading of packages/ports similar to apt-get. [1] http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng The thing that really has me attracted to pkgng is

Re: Installworld and /usr/include/*.h modification times

2012-06-01 Thread Mark Andrews
In message ca+7wwsewnfre8xz3h5huhww78yaxv7dkmyaivzamoy4kuz1...@mail.gmail.com , Kimmo Paasiala writes: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-stable-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com writes: Why are /usr/include files installed with install -C

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Matthias Schuendehuette
Hi all, Am 01.06.2012 um 14:03 schrieb Mehmet Erol Sanliturk: [...] If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some areas , would you please list those areas with most important first to least important last ? We are using two FreeBSD-Servers as a SAMBA-Server and as a plot-server, partly

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread David Magda
On Jun 1, 2012, at 09:12, Phil Regnauld wrote: * Gluster For very large FSes, nothing beats it, especially now that 3.3 has been released. Isilon built their OneFS on top of FreeBSD, does that count? :) Panasas too IIRC. ___

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Dave Hayes
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com writes: If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some areas , would you please list those areas with most important first to least important last ? 1) I don't use FreeBSD for virtualization as the host OS. I really want to, becaus I want to be

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Dave Hayes
Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net writes: I guess he made his experiences with that some years ago when support for amd64 in the ports was not very mature. But this has changed since then, apart from a few ports almost all of them should work on amd64 without problems. I can vouch for this. I

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread David Magda
On Jun 1, 2012, at 08:33, Daniel Kalchev wrote: For example if one wants an e-mail server, that is better served in the long run by IMAP+MTA than any form of Exchange, because you are not tied to one single platform and that vendor's lunacy. Otherwise FreeBSD runs just fine as server for

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Phil Regnauld
David Magda (dmagda) writes: On Jun 1, 2012, at 09:12, Phil Regnauld wrote: * Gluster For very large FSes, nothing beats it, especially now that 3.3 has been released. Isilon built their OneFS on top of FreeBSD, does that count? :) Panasas too IIRC. Good

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Gary Palmer
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:12:14PM -0700, Dave Hayes wrote: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com writes: If you are NOT using FreeBSD for any area or some areas , would you please list those areas with most important first to least important last ? 1) I don't use FreeBSD for

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Freddie Cash
On Jun 1, 2012 5:34 PM, David Magda dma...@ee.ryerson.ca wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 08:33, Daniel Kalchev wrote: For example if one wants an e-mail server, that is better served in the long run by IMAP+MTA than any form of Exchange, because you are not tied to one single platform and that

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Alex Goncharov
,--- Dave Hayes (Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:12:14 -0700) * | 2) I don't use FreeBSD for a 'modern' desktop. By 'modern' I mean | areas which most rank and file users would need: day-to-day non | technical browsing with flash, applications like skype, syncing to | mobile devices, etc. First, two

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Chris Nehren
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 15:12:36 +0200 , Phil Regnauld wrote: * full virtualization I am using VirtualBox in production with HAST + ZVOLs, but we need something like DRBD's dual master mode to be able to do a teleport of the instance like Ganeti does

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Brian
On 6/1/2012 5:14 PM, Dave Hayes wrote: Lars Engelslars.eng...@0x20.net writes: I guess he made his experiences with that some years ago when support for amd64 in the ports was not very mature. But this has changed since then, apart from a few ports almost all of them should work on amd64

Re: Installworld and /usr/include/*.h modification times

2012-06-01 Thread Jason Hellenthal
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 09:18:55PM +0300, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-stable-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com writes: Why are /usr/include files installed with install -C during make installworld ??when

Re: problem with nmap

2012-06-01 Thread Jason Hellenthal
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 07:43:17AM +0300, Andrey S. Rybak wrote: Installing libpcap from ports does not help. Error message is same. Running nmap with -dd yield next: Starting Nmap 6.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2012-06-01 05:42 EEST Fetchfile found /usr/local/share/nmap/nmap-services PORTS:

Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?

2012-06-01 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On 30 May 2012 PM 7:20:31 David Chisnall wrote: This is off-topic, so please feel free to disregard it, but I'm sending it to this list in the hope that it will reach a largish number of users. I am currently looking at updating some of our advocacy material (which advertises

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread David Magda
On Jun 1, 2012, at 21:03, Chris Nehren wrote: You say your'e using ZVOLs but then recommend gluster for large filesystems. I would like to take a moment to point out that one of the design goals of ZFS was to scale beyond the capabilities of current hardware. What does gluster do that ZFS

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Glen Barber
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:14:10PM -0400, David Magda wrote: ZFS is for storing file systems on locally connected block devices. Gluster is a network file system where data can be distributed over many nodes. Pardon my ignorance to not knowing what gluster is, but is this conceptually

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Erich
Hi, On 01 June 2012 AM 5:03:26 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: Why Are You Using FreeBSD ? there is only one reason for me not using FreeBSD: hardware which is not supported but found in the machine. I have had to move two machines within the last three years to Fedora because of this. The

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Zach Leslie
So ZFS can ensure that bits-on-disk stay safe through checksums and mirroring / RAIDZ, while Gluster allows entire file servers to go offline and the files are still accessible because you have a kind of network-level RAID going on. This also helps in performance since instead of clients

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Eitan Adler
On 1 June 2012 23:33, Zach Leslie xaque...@gmail.com wrote: So ZFS can ensure that bits-on-disk stay safe through checksums and mirroring / RAIDZ, while Gluster allows entire file servers to go offline and the files are still accessible because you have a kind of network-level RAID going

[releng_9 tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc

2012-06-01 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-02 00:42:59 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-06-02 00:42:59 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Sep 28 13:48:49 UTC 2011 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-06-02

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Freddie Cash
On Jun 1, 2012 8:27 PM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:14:10PM -0400, David Magda wrote: ZFS is for storing file systems on locally connected block devices. Gluster is a network file system where data can be distributed over many nodes. Pardon my

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 02.06.2012, at 03:06, David Magda dma...@ee.ryerson.ca wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 08:33, Daniel Kalchev wrote: For example if one wants an e-mail server, that is better served in the long run by IMAP+MTA than any form of Exchange, because you are not tied to one single platform and that

[releng_9 tinderbox] failure on powerpc64/powerpc

2012-06-01 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2012-06-02 01:12:40 - tinderbox 2.9 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2012-06-02 01:12:40 - FreeBSD freebsd-stable.sentex.ca 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Sep 28 13:48:49 UTC 2011 mdtan...@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/server amd64 TB --- 2012-06-02

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 02.06.2012, at 07:19, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: Glustre sits above the storage system, replicating data between systems. So, disks -- ZFS (via Zvols) -- Glustre. How is this different than ZFS using remote zvols via iSCSI? Can it tolerate down nodes better than ZFS?

Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ?

2012-06-01 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:20:39PM +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote: Maybe FreeBSD should consider migrating to pkgsrc? I'm not arguing that your other points are invalid (in particular, I agree that the xorg change was really painful, and for a long time amd64 lagged i386 badly), but there is one very