Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-04-03 Thread Mike Tancsa
Hi, One of the neat things I like about 8.12.2 are the milter facilities. Just wondering if http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/patches/milter.c.8.188.p could / would be committed to FreeBSD at some point ? ---Mike

Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-04-03 Thread Gregory Neil Shapiro
mike One of the neat things I like about 8.12.2 are the milter mike facilities. Just wondering if mike http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/patches/milter.c.8.188.p mike could / would be committed to FreeBSD at some point ? We are prepping 8.12.3 for release (which includes the patch). It will

Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-04-03 Thread Gregory Neil Shapiro
gshapiro We are prepping 8.12.3 for release (which includes the patch). gshapiro It will be imported into FereBSD shortly after release. After importing it into FereBSD, I'll import it into FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of

Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-03-27 Thread Helge Oldach
Yeasah Pell: The question is simply this: why are there large, complex, non-BSD packages in src-contrib that are not critical to the running of many types of systems, and not strictly a dependency of the system proper? Because they always have been. BSD users (those who have been running BSD

Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-03-27 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
Helge Oldach([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2002.03.27 09:15:42 +: Karsten W. Rohrbach: Helge Oldach([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2002.03.26 23:26:57 +: [...] standard, well- and widely-known piece of software around. You may not like it but both S*** and B*** are the de facto standards. Period.

Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-03-27 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
no text deleted, everything quoted, not reformatted, no information removed. please, read on. Helge Oldach([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2002.03.27 09:36:19 +: Yeasah Pell: The question is simply this: why are there large, complex, non-BSD packages in src-contrib that are not critical to the

Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-03-27 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Helge Oldach ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Count this my strong vote against removal of packages that are traditionally part of the base system. I hate sendmail with a passion. I use exim; hence it's just added bloat sitting in my rather full /usr. The existance of more up-to-date ports for

Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-03-27 Thread Scott Lambert
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:58:45AM +, Thomas Hurst wrote: * Helge Oldach ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Count this my strong vote against removal of packages that are traditionally part of the base system. I suggest we extend the package system to include the base system; then I can

Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-03-27 Thread John
I'm probably not one to get involved in the conversation at this point (it seems to have gone nearly off it's topic).. Pell Yeasah wrote: I've noticed that there are, in fact, sendmail and bind ports -- does anybody use them? if so, why, and do they interact poorly with their src-contrib

Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-03-27 Thread Scott Lambert
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 05:12:24PM +, Pete French wrote: I don't mind sendmail being the default, what I do mind is that after every upgrade I need to find the new sendmail binary, delete it, and point a link towards the qmail sendmail binary. Err - mailwrapper ? I hate sendmail

Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-03-26 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
Helge Oldach([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2002.03.26 23:26:57 +: [...] standard, well- and widely-known piece of software around. You may not like it but both S*** and B*** are the de facto standards. Period. they are not, but this is not the issue. it is just convenient to have emacs in the

Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-03-26 Thread Yeasah Pell
Karsten W. Rohrbach: the question is: why the hell are complex (or rather complicated) subsystems that often stay unused still in the base distribution? it is simply not consequent, not following the main paradigm of bsd's design, to have subsystems like sendmail or bind in the base dist,

Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed

2002-03-26 Thread Helge Oldach
Karsten W. Rohrbach: Helge Oldach([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2002.03.26 23:26:57 +: [...] standard, well- and widely-known piece of software around. You may not like it but both S*** and B*** are the de facto standards. Period. Please quote correctly and don't falsify my words here. I am not