Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-11 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Jul-09 15:39:35 +0300, Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote: A single 40 disk raidz (DO NOT DO THIS) will have 40 disks total, 39 disks worth of space and will definately explode on you sooner rather than later (probably on the first import, export or scrub). Can you provide a reference

Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-11 Thread Dan Naumov
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Peter Jeremypeterjer...@optushome.com.au wrote: On 2009-Jul-09 15:39:35 +0300, Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote: A single 40 disk raidz (DO NOT DO THIS) will have 40 disks total, 39 disks worth of space and will definately explode on you sooner rather than

Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-11 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2009-07-11 10:40, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2009-Jul-09 15:39:35 +0300, Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote: A single 40 disk raidz (DO NOT DO THIS) will have 40 disks total, 39 disks worth of space and will definately explode on you sooner rather than later (probably on the first import,

Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-11 Thread Freddie Cash
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Peter Jeremy peterjer...@optushome.com.auwrote: On 2009-Jul-09 15:39:35 +0300, Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote: A single 40 disk raidz (DO NOT DO THIS) will have 40 disks total, 39 disks worth of space and will definately explode on you sooner rather

ZFS - thanks

2009-07-09 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi, all, I just wanted to say a big big thank you to Kip and all the developers who made ZFS on FreeBSD real. And to everyone who provided helpful comments in the last couple of days. I had to delete and rebuild my zpool to switch from a 12-disk raidz2 to two 6-disk ones, but yesterday I could

Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-09 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Thu, July 9, 2009 08:25, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: Hi, all, I just wanted to say a big big thank you to Kip and all the developers who made ZFS on FreeBSD real. And to everyone who provided helpful comments in the last couple of days. I had to delete and rebuild my zpool to switch from

Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-09 Thread Dan Naumov
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Nenhum_de_Nosmath...@eternamente.info wrote: On Thu, July 9, 2009 08:25, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: Hi, all, I just wanted to say a big big thank you to Kip and all the developers who made ZFS on FreeBSD real. And to everyone who provided helpful comments in

Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-09 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Thu, July 9, 2009 09:25, Dan Naumov wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Nenhum_de_Nosmath...@eternamente.info wrote: On Thu, July 9, 2009 08:25, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: Hi, all, I just wanted to say a big big thank you to Kip and all the developers who made ZFS on FreeBSD real.

Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-09 Thread Dan Naumov
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Nenhum_de_Nosmath...@eternamente.info wrote: On Thu, July 9, 2009 09:25, Dan Naumov wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Nenhum_de_Nosmath...@eternamente.info wrote: On Thu, July 9, 2009 08:25, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: Hi, all, I just wanted to say a big

Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-09 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hello, On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 09:17:35AM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: So now we have this setup: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zfsONLINE 0 0 0 raidz2 ONLINE 0 0 0 label/disk100 ONLINE 0

Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-09 Thread Tonix (Antonio Nati)
not HW RAID to be (a lot) more efficient? Which would be the wrong side of using HW RAID with ZFS? Thanks, Tonino -- in...@zioniInterazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it to...@interazioni.it

Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-09 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hello, On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 03:21:48PM +0200, Tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: I see a lot of people advicing to use ZFS RAID instead of HW RAID. I'm going to use HP duplicated iSCSI subsystems, which have autonomous RAID, so I'm confused about this advice. Following the ZFS RAID stream,

Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-09 Thread Steve Bertrand
Patrick M. Hausen wrote: So we switched to GEOM for mirroring a long time ago for one simple reason: hardware replacement. Amen. Steve smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: ZFS - thanks

2009-07-09 Thread Andrew Snow
Patrick M. Hausen wrote: You cannot escape the poor write performance of RAID 5 and comparable setups with or without hardware. No matter how much you cache, one time a block must be written to disk. ZFS RAIDZ works differently: It is based on variable-sized blocks written to the disks based