Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-09 Thread perryh
Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote: The DOS utilities submit custom ATA CMDs or data to all WD disks to toggle or adjust these features. If someone could figure out what the command(s) were, the feature(s) could be implemented into atacontrol(8). Of course, that would require

Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-09 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 02:42:10AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote: The DOS utilities submit custom ATA CMDs or data to all WD disks to toggle or adjust these features. If someone could figure out what the command(s) were, the feature(s)

Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-09 Thread Freddie Cash
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Daniel O'Connor docon...@gsoft.com.auwrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Freddie Cash wrote: I just did this to 8 of the 1.5 TB Caviar Green disks, without ZFS complaining in any way. I did test it on a spare drive before doing it to the 7 live drives. And I did

Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Freddie Cash wrote: /d sets it (for me) to 6300 milliseconds (6.3 seconds). I took this as a special value that disabled it entirely (no idea why they didn't use 0 or 255..) I've seen reports of the same on various hardware forums.  Not sure if it's due to

RE: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-08 Thread Dan Naumov
Any further ideas how to get rid of this feature? You have several options. 1) The most clean solution is probably using the WDIDLE3 utility on your drives to disable automatic parking or in cases where its not possible to complete disable it, you can adjust it to 5 minutes, which essentially

Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-08 Thread Gerrit Kühn
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:43:46 +0200 Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote about RE: one more load-cycle-count problem: DN Any further ideas how to get rid of this feature? DN 1) The most clean solution is probably using the WDIDLE3 utility on DN your drives to disable automatic parking or in cases

Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-08 Thread Dan Naumov
2010/2/8 Gerrit Kühn ger...@pmp.uni-hannover.de: On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:43:46 +0200 Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote about RE: one more load-cycle-count problem: DN Any further ideas how to get rid of this feature? DN 1) The most clean solution is probably using the WDIDLE3 utility

Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-08 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:56:35PM +0200, Dan Naumov wrote: 2010/2/8 Gerrit Kühn ger...@pmp.uni-hannover.de: On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:43:46 +0200 Dan Naumov dan.nau...@gmail.com wrote about RE: one more load-cycle-count problem: DN Any further ideas how to get rid of this feature? DN 1

Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-08 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:56:35 +0200 Dan Naumov wrote: WDIDLE3 changes the drive firmware. This is also how WD can detect you've used it on your disk and void your warranty accordingly :) I've upgraded the firmware at five WD1000FYPS disks. One of them still kept on running load cycles. Then I

Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-08 Thread Gerrit Kühn
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 06:22:59 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote about Re: one more load-cycle-count problem: JC The DOS utilities submit custom ATA CMDs or data to all WD disks to JC toggle or adjust these features. If someone could figure out what the JC command(s) were

Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-08 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Dan Naumov wrote: which essentially solves the problem. Note that going this route will probably involve rebuilding your entire array from scratch, because applying WDIDLE3 to the disk is likely to very slightly affect disk geometry, but just enough for hardware raid or ZFS

Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-08 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Gerrit Kühn wrote: :-))) I would really prefer to be able to set this stuff via camcontrol or atacontrol. Alone having to boot DOS with this machine (no floppy, no cdrom) will be a real pain. And most probably the DOS tool will not be able to see the disks sitting behind

Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-08 Thread Freddie Cash
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Daniel O'Connor docon...@gsoft.com.auwrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Dan Naumov wrote: which essentially solves the problem. Note that going this route will probably involve rebuilding your entire array from scratch, because applying WDIDLE3 to the disk is likely

Re: one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-08 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Freddie Cash wrote: I just did this to 8 of the 1.5 TB Caviar Green disks, without ZFS complaining in any way. I did test it on a spare drive before doing it to the 7 live drives. And I did replace them while the server was turned off, just to be safe (and to prevent a

one more load-cycle-count problem

2010-02-07 Thread Gerrit Kühn
Hi all, After being disturbed by the firmware issues of the wd drives causing exceeding load cycles (see thread immense delayed write to file system (ZFS and UFS2), performance issues in January), I have found some more problematic drives in the following setup: 4 x 2.5 WDC WD4000BEVT-00ZAT0 in