Re: libnetgraph doesn't build fine on RELENG_6

2006-05-03 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:52:23AM -0300, Renato Botelho wrote: I've updated my src today using RELENG_6, when i'm running a buildworld, i got this problem on libnetgraph === lib/libnetgraph (depend,all,install) rm -f .depend CC='/usr/local/libexec/ccache/cc' mkdep -f .depend -a

Re: RC2 binary upgrade: var/empty: no chmod allowed

2006-05-03 Thread Alexey Karagodov
chflags -R noschg /var/empty 2006/5/3, Martin Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello everyone, When BETA4 was released, I installed it on a very old machine of mine, and tried doing a binary upgrade from 6.0-RELEASE to 6.1-BETA4. I got an error almost immediately that it failed to write because it

Re: 'Max recursion level (500) exceeded' error

2006-05-03 Thread MANTANI Nobutaka
At Tue, 2 May 2006 21:56:49 -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 10:54:38AM +0900, MANTANI Nobutaka wrote: Kris, may I commit the patch and close my PR (ports/95238) ? It has been in the portmgr team's PR queue for a month. :-) No, it needs to be fully tested first.

Re: RC2 binary upgrade: var/empty: no chmod allowed

2006-05-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 10:14:28AM +0400, Alexey Karagodov wrote: chflags -R noschg /var/empty You missed the point..the claim is that sysinstall barfs when it encounters a /var/empty that is legitimately schg. Kris P.S. Don't top-post 2006/5/3, Martin Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello

Re: Which RC?

2006-05-03 Thread Pietro Cerutti
On 5/3/06, David Nugent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pietro Cerutti wrote: just updated my RELENG_6 as Tue May 2 08:25:55 CEST 2006 There are some things that are not clear about the version: - uname says FreeBSD 6.1-RC #0 - on the FreeBSD FTP site the RC directory is now RC2

Re: PCI Radeon 7000/VE (RV100) on AMD64

2006-05-03 Thread Alastair G. Hogge
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 06:46, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 3/27/06, Alastair G. Hogge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Having some problem with Xorg-6.9.0 and the radeon or ati driver on mad64 system. X seems to look up at a black screen after setting the resolution and then resets the

Re: libnetgraph doesn't build fine on RELENG_6

2006-05-03 Thread Renato Botelho
On 5/3/06, Ruslan Ermilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:52:23AM -0300, Renato Botelho wrote: I've updated my src today using RELENG_6, when i'm running a buildworld, i got this problem on libnetgraph === lib/libnetgraph (depend,all,install) rm -f .depend

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 2 May 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: Ditto, same thing with the recent nve fixes. Why release known broken code when there are tested patches available? Whats the worst that will happen? It wont work? Thats already the case... ... OK, I can't speak to that issue specifically.

Re: RC2 binary upgrade: var/empty: no chmod allowed

2006-05-03 Thread Martin Jackson
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 10:14:28AM +0400, Alexey Karagodov wrote: chflags -R noschg /var/empty You missed the point..the claim is that sysinstall barfs when it encounters a /var/empty that is legitimately schg. Kris and freebsd-stable, Your reading of my bug report is

usb to serial

2006-05-03 Thread David Coder
Is there a generic freebsd driver for usb-to-rs-232 adapters? My Thinkpad (running 6.1-RC) doesn't have a standard db-9 port. Thx. David Coder Erstwhile Network Engineer Washington, DC ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: usb to serial

2006-05-03 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:33:22AM -0400, David Coder wrote: Is there a generic freebsd driver for usb-to-rs-232 adapters? My Thinkpad (running 6.1-RC) doesn't have a standard db-9 port. uftdi(4) for some USB/RS232 adapters. Marc ___

RE: PCI Radeon 7000/VE (RV100) on AMD64

2006-05-03 Thread Wilde, Donald
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nikolas Britton Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: Alastair G. Hogge Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCI Radeon 7000/VE (RV100) on AMD64 On 3/27/06, Alastair G. Hogge [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ipw2100 vs ndis(4) -- does it work for anybody?

2006-05-03 Thread Scot Hetzel
On 5/2/06, Sean Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ndisgen is broken on 6.1 RC1 if I remember correctly. ndisgen wasn't broken, wpa_supplicant was broken as it didn't recognize the ndis interfaces. The fix has since been applied to -CURRENT and MFC'd to the RELENG_6 and RELENG_6_1 branches.

Re: usb to serial

2006-05-03 Thread Vivek Khera
On May 3, 2006, at 8:33 AM, David Coder wrote: Is there a generic freebsd driver for usb-to-rs-232 adapters? My Thinkpad (running 6.1-RC) doesn't have a standard db-9 port. I bought a generic one from BestBuy which works with the uplcom driver (I just load it from loader.conf). I have

Re: usb to serial

2006-05-03 Thread Helge Oldach
Marc Fonvieille: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:33:22AM -0400, David Coder wrote: Is there a generic freebsd driver for usb-to-rs-232 adapters? My Thinkpad (running 6.1-RC) doesn't have a standard db-9 port. uftdi(4) for some USB/RS232 adapters. uplcom(4) as well, for example ucom0: Prolific

Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't appear to have it enabled, but my older i386 server that I just upgraded to 6.x does: user pid %cpu %mem vsz rss tt state starttime command root 14 104.0 0.0 0 8 ?? RL11:38AM 0:55.02

RE: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Zimmerman, Eric
In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't appear to have it enabled, but my older i386 server that I just upgraded to 6.x does: Is it still something that I should disable, and, if so, how in 6.x? Can you disable it in the BIOS or do you dual boot this machine?

Re: ipw2100 vs ndis(4) -- does it work for anybody?

2006-05-03 Thread Sean Bryant
ndisgen fails for me on 6.1-RC1 and 6.1-RC2. Any ideas? On 5/3/06, Scot Hetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/2/06, Sean Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ndisgen is broken on 6.1 RC1 if I remember correctly. ndisgen wasn't broken, wpa_supplicant was broken as it didn't recognize the ndis

Re: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Chuck Swiger
Marc G. Fournier wrote: In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't appear to have it enabled, but my older i386 server that I just upgraded to 6.x does: user pid %cpu %mem vsz rss tt state starttime command root 14 104.0 0.0 0 8 ?? RL

RE: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Zimmerman, Eric wrote: In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't appear to have it enabled, but my older i386 server that I just upgraded to 6.x does: Is it still something that I should disable, and, if so, how in 6.x? Can you disable it in

Re: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:06:24PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote.. On Wed, 3 May 2006, Zimmerman, Eric wrote: In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't appear to have it enabled, but my older i386 server that I just upgraded to 6.x does: Is it still something

6.1-RC panic: mutex Giant not owned at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2037

2006-05-03 Thread Gavin Atkinson
Just had the following panic on 6.1-RC from source current as of 24 hours ago: db ex/s *panicstr buf.1: mutex Giant not owned at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2037 db tr Tracing pid 6158 tid 100120 td 0xc64e4180 kdb_enter(c089df29) at kdb_enter+0x2b panic(c089d3c0,c08b1ac6,c08a7350,7f5,c6f8a550)

Re: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Wilko Bulte wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:06:24PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote.. On Wed, 3 May 2006, Zimmerman, Eric wrote: In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't appear to have it enabled, but my older i386 server that I just upgraded

Re: PCI Radeon 7000/VE (RV100) on AMD64

2006-05-03 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 5/3/06, Wilde, Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nikolas Britton Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 2:46 PM To: Alastair G. Hogge Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCI Radeon 7000/VE (RV100) on AMD64

Re: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Vinny Abello
At 11:36 AM 5/3/2006, Chuck Swiger wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't appear to have it enabled, but my older i386 server that I just upgraded to 6.x does: user pid %cpu %mem vsz rss tt state starttime command

RE: 6.1-RC bge RX CPU self-diagnostic failed

2006-05-03 Thread Robert Wojciechowski
This is for the archives: problem was identified as a bad motherboard/onboard NIC and has been replaced (thanks Silicon Mechanics!). Everything is going smoothly now! -- Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert

Re: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 02:12:45PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote.. On Wed, 3 May 2006, Wilko Bulte wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:06:24PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote.. On Wed, 3 May 2006, Zimmerman, Eric wrote: In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't

Re: 6.1-RC panic: mutex Giant not owned at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2037

2006-05-03 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 06:01:37PM +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote: Just had the following panic on 6.1-RC from source current as of 24 hours ago: db ex/s *panicstr buf.1: mutex Giant not owned at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2037 db tr Tracing pid 6158 tid 100120 td 0xc64e4180

Re: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Spartak Radchenko
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:42:18AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't appear to have it enabled, but my older i386 server that I just upgraded to 6.x does: I am not sure I understood your problem correctly... Do you want to

RE: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Larry Rosenman
Spartak Radchenko wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:42:18AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't appear to have it enabled, but my older i386 server that I just upgraded to 6.x does: I am not sure I understood your problem

Re: 'camcontrol rescan all' does not find the attached tape drive

2006-05-03 Thread Adam
Hi Scott. I am grateful for and honored by your response. I am pretty much stuck with the asr device for now, but I would love a list of quality hardware raid devices and related management utilities that can be used with freebsd/linux. I can get raidutil (sysutils/asr-utils) to recognize a

Re: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:36:04PM -0400, Vinny Abello wrote: An Intel technical rep that gave a presentation on upcoming Intel VT technology in processors (Virtualization Technology) that I attended indicated that Hyperthreading was really designed to start getting programmers to program

Re: 6.1-RC panic: mutex Giant not owned at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2037

2006-05-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 06:01:37PM +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote: Just had the following panic on 6.1-RC from source current as of 24 hours ago: db ex/s *panicstr buf.1: mutex Giant not owned at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2037 db tr Tracing pid 6158 tid 100120 td 0xc64e4180

Re: 'camcontrol rescan all' does not find the attached tape drive

2006-05-03 Thread Scott Long
Adam wrote: Hi Scott. I am grateful for and honored by your response. I am pretty much stuck with the asr device for now, but I would love a list of quality hardware raid devices and related management utilities that can be used with freebsd/linux. Is there any chance that you could just

Re: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Spartak Radchenko
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:44:02PM -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: Spartak Radchenko wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:42:18AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't appear to have it enabled, but my older i386 server that I just

Re: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Spartak Radchenko wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:42:18AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't appear to have it enabled, but my older i386 server that I just upgraded to 6.x does: I am not sure I understood

Re: ipw2100 vs ndis(4) -- does it work for anybody?

2006-05-03 Thread Ulrich Spoerlein
Scot, Bill, Scot Hetzel wrote: You need to use the ndisgen script to create the NDIS kernel module for your card. ndisgen /compat/ndis/w70n51.inf /compat/ndis/w70n51.sys Thanks! Since when is this required? I think I never ran this tool before. Where is this documented? Anyway, now ndis0

Re: Hyperthreading in 6.x ... still frowned upon?

2006-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Spartak Radchenko wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:44:02PM -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: Spartak Radchenko wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:42:18AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: In 4.x, it was a 'shut it off' sort of deal .. my new amd64 don't appear to have it

Repetitive device (hpt37x) naming during bootup on 6.1-RC

2006-05-03 Thread Mike Jakubik
This is an odd cosmetic bug, this is what i see when the system boots: atapci1: HighPoint HighPoint HighPoint HighPoint Hi UDMA133 controller port 0xb800-0xb807,0xbc00-0xbc03,0xc000-0xc007,0xc400-0xc403,0xc800-0xc8ff irq 10 at device 19.0 on pci0 The system works fine otherwise, I have

Re: 6.1-RC panic: mutex Giant not owned at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2037

2006-05-03 Thread Mike Jakubik
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 06:01:37PM +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote: I didn't have a serial console attached at the time (hence the need to print the panicstr separately) and couldn't get a dump, so I hope the above is enough to go on. Unfortunately it may not be..but

Re: 6.1-RC panic: mutex Giant not owned at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2037

2006-05-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 03:39:41PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 06:01:37PM +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote: I didn't have a serial console attached at the time (hence the need to print the panicstr separately) and couldn't get a dump, so I hope the

6.1 RC1 success story, general kudos

2006-05-03 Thread Lamont Lucas
We have a bunch of SuperMicro 6013P-8+ boxes that had a lot of issues under 5.x I've been testing the 6.1-RC and am happy to report that everthing is working fine. Specifically, the scsi controller resetting issues reported in: Subject: FreeBSD 5.3p6-5.4RC3, Supermicro X6DHR-8G, Dual 3.6GHz

Re: 'camcontrol rescan all' does not find the attached tape drive

2006-05-03 Thread Adam
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Scott Long wrote: Adam wrote: I am pretty much stuck with the asr device for now... Is there any chance that you could just plug a simple Adaptec 2940 or even a low-end TekRam card into an unused slot on your motherboard? I am moving from a scsi raid disk spool to a

em(4) device still 'freezes' on latset CVSup'd 6.x ...

2006-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
I just upgraded one of my old 4.x server to 6.x, and the one annoying problem that I've experienced with 4.x persists in 6.x ... ... when you ifconfig alias a new IP onto an em(4) device, the tcp/ip stack (I'm guessing) hangs for a period of time, while my 6.x/bge0 servers don't hang at

discard oversize frame on ath

2006-05-03 Thread JoaoBR
Hi somebody knows about this? I get constant messages on a releng_6 I get it on all ath interfaces : May  3 16:30:01 ap1-and kernel: ath2: discard oversize frame (ether type 5e4 flags 3 len 1522 max 1514) May  3 16:30:26 ap1-and last message repeated 2 times May  3 16:32:27 ap1-and last

Re: em(4) device still 'freezes' on latset CVSup'd 6.x ...

2006-05-03 Thread Steven Hartland
Marc G. Fournier wrote: I just upgraded one of my old 4.x server to 6.x, and the one annoying problem that I've experienced with 4.x persists in 6.x ... ... when you ifconfig alias a new IP onto an em(4) device, the tcp/ip stack (I'm guessing) hangs for a period of time, while my 6.x/bge0

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread martinko
Robert Watson wrote: On Tue, 2 May 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: Ditto, same thing with the recent nve fixes. Why release known broken code when there are tested patches available? Whats the worst that will happen? It wont work? Thats already the case... ... OK, I can't speak to that

FreeBSD Newbie...

2006-05-03 Thread John Dworske
Dear FreeBSD Folks, Help me...yeah...OK...so here it goes...I am brand new to FreeBSD...installed OS onto a box from a set of floppies I got off the net... Last login: Wed May 3 14:37:21 2006 from 10.10.20.20 Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994

Re: em(4) device still 'freezes' on latset CVSup'd 6.x ...

2006-05-03 Thread David Kirchner
On 5/3/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded one of my old 4.x server to 6.x, and the one annoying problem that I've experienced with 4.x persists in 6.x ... ... when you ifconfig alias a new IP onto an em(4) device, the tcp/ip stack (I'm guessing) hangs for a period of

Re: FreeBSD Newbie...

2006-05-03 Thread albi
On Wed, 03 May 2006 22:26:53 + John Dworske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE (GENERIC) #0: Mon Oct 27 17:51:09 GMT 2003 Wondering what I need to update my system to make sure it has everything I need to do work...like want to setup a slave DNS server and apache

Re: FreeBSD Newbie...

2006-05-03 Thread Vlad
not to sound sharp, but what happened with Google for you? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-bind9.html cd /usr/ports/www/apache13 make make install On 5/3/06, John Dworske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear FreeBSD Folks, Help me...yeah...OK...so here

Configuring FreeBSD 4.9 on a new system (was: FreeBSD Newbie...)

2006-05-03 Thread Fabian Keil
John Dworske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help me...yeah...OK...so here it goes...I am brand new to FreeBSD...installed OS onto a box from a set of floppies I got off the net... Last login: Wed May 3 14:37:21 2006 from 10.10.20.20 Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990,

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread David Kirchner
On 5/3/06, Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means that they will take a significant amount of time to fix, and that each fix is high risk, as it is likely to reveal latent bugs. This means that each fix will require a lot of testing -- months of testing, in fact. So the choice is

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 06:21:39PM -0700, David Kirchner wrote: On 5/3/06, Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means that they will take a significant amount of time to fix, and that each fix is high risk, as it is likely to reveal latent bugs. This means that each fix will require

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 06:21:39PM -0700, David Kirchner wrote: Would there really be harm in putting off a release until these well- acknowledged bugs are taken care of? Yes. We tagged the ports tree on April 14th, and that's the last date of any changes the CDs will ship with. That's a

Re: FreeBSD Newbie...

2006-05-03 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 10:26:53PM +, John Dworske wrote: FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE (GENERIC) #0: Mon Oct 27 17:51:09 GMT 2003 4.9 is no longer supported. You should use 5.4 or 6.0, or, preferably, wait for about a week and use 5.5 or 6.1. I would recommend 6.X; 5.X is at this point essentially

Re: em(4) device still 'freezes' on latset CVSup'd 6.x ...

2006-05-03 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 05:42:41PM -0700, David Kirchner wrote: I don't know the protocol for this -- would the old PRs be re-opened, or should a new PR be filed for 6.x? I'd recommend filing a new PR but reference the older ones in case it is indeed the same problem. mcl

Re: em(4) device still 'freezes' on latset CVSup'd 6.x ...

2006-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Also, as an aside ... 6.x em(4) still isn't sending up the arp broadcasts, so IPs moved from one machine to this one aren't having their routes appropriately updated ... again, please note, that moving an IP from any machine to a *non* em(4) interface does update the routes properly and

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread Martin Jackson
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 06:21:39PM -0700, David Kirchner wrote: On 5/3/06, Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means that they will take a significant amount of time to fix, and that each fix is high risk, as it is likely to reveal latent bugs. This means that

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread David Kirchner
On 5/3/06, Mark Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To summarize: at some point you do, indeed, have to ship something. You have to choose a point where the least number of users will see regressions vs. the most number of users will see improvements. (Not everyone uses quotas.) FWIW, the

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread David Kirchner
On 5/3/06, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 06:21:39PM -0700, David Kirchner wrote: However, one could argue that as quotas worked OK in releases prior to 6.0 (and perhaps earlier), that there is a longer-term regression. There was a quota regression in 6.0. It

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:05:12PM -0700, David Kirchner wrote: On 5/3/06, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 06:21:39PM -0700, David Kirchner wrote: However, one could argue that as quotas worked OK in releases prior to 6.0 (and perhaps earlier), that there is a

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:11:32PM -0700, David Kirchner wrote: On 5/3/06, Mark Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To summarize: at some point you do, indeed, have to ship something. You have to choose a point where the least number of users will see regressions vs. the most number of users

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread Mike Jakubik
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:11:32PM -0700, David Kirchner wrote: On 5/3/06, Mark Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To summarize: at some point you do, indeed, have to ship something. You have to choose a point where the least number of users will see regressions vs.

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 12:41:57AM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:11:32PM -0700, David Kirchner wrote: On 5/3/06, Mark Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To summarize: at some point you do, indeed, have to ship something. You have to choose

Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1

2006-05-03 Thread Mike Jakubik
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 12:41:57AM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: You missed the part where snapshots have caused deadlocks under varying conditions since day 1. They have never worked 100% reliably, and despite our best efforts that will remain