Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Samuel. You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47: Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be ignored and no time should be wasted by any FreeBSD committer further evaluating this garbage. (Yes, I have been down

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Adrian. You wrote 16 декабря 2011 г., 20:43:27: Guys/girls/fuzzy things - this is 2011; people look at shiny blog sites with graphs rather than mailing lists. Sorry, we lost that battle. :) My thoughts exactly. -- // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov l...@freebsd.org

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/19/11 09:27, Lev Serebryakov wrote: Hello, Samuel. You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47: Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be ignored and no time should be wasted by any FreeBSD committer further

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Samuel J. Greear
2011/12/19 Lev Serebryakov l...@freebsd.org: Hello, Samuel. You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47: Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be ignored and no time should be wasted by any FreeBSD committer further

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Edho Arief
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: FreeBSD actually does _BETTER_ (subjectively) in this test than the Linux system when you look at what is really going on. FreeBSD is favoring writes, which is _GOOD_. FreeBSD does not need to be fixed, the benchmarks

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On 19 dec 2011, at 12:50, Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: 2011/12/19 Lev Serebryakov l...@freebsd.org: Hello, Samuel. You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47: Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread Alexander Yerenkow
IMHO, no offence, as always. As were told, Phoronix used default setup, not tuned. So? Is average user will tune it after setup? No, he'll get same defaults, and would expect same performance as in tests, and he probably get it. The problem of FreeBSD is not it's default settings, some kind of

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-19 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/19/11 13:21, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On 19 dec 2011, at 12:50, Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: 2011/12/19 Lev Serebryakov l...@freebsd.org: Hello, Samuel. You wrote 15 декабря 2011 г., 16:32:47: Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are similarly

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-19 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:13:16 +0200 Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org пишет: on 17/12/2011 19:33 George Mitchell said the following: Summing up for the record, in my original test: 1. It doesn't matter whether X is running or not. 2. The problem is not limited to two or fewer CPUs. (It also

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-19 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 19/12/2011 19:46 Ivan Klymenko said the following: В Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:13:16 +0200 Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org пишет: on 17/12/2011 19:33 George Mitchell said the following: Summing up for the record, in my original test: 1. It doesn't matter whether X is running or not. 2. The

Re: fsck_ufs out of swapspace

2011-12-19 Thread Michiel Boland
Problem solved - it was indeed an endian thing. The problem is that fsck uses a real_dev_bsize variable that is declared long, but the DIOCGSECTORSIZE ioctl takes an u_int argument. A PR has been submitted. Cheers Michiel ___

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-19 Thread Alexander Best
On Mon Dec 19 11, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: On 12/18/11 04:34, Adrian Chadd wrote: The trouble is that there's lots of anecdotal evidence, but noone's really gone digging deep into _their_ example of why it's broken. The developers who know this stuff don't see anything wrong. That hints to me

Re: fsck_ufs out of swapspace

2011-12-19 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2011-Dec-19 22:27:49 +0100, Michiel Boland bolan...@xs4all.nl wrote: Problem solved - it was indeed an endian thing. The problem is that fsck uses a real_dev_bsize variable that is declared long, but the DIOCGSECTORSIZE ioctl takes an u_int argument. To be accurate, this isn't an endian