Re: 16M RAM enough for FreeBSD 6.1?

2006-08-27 Thread Warner Losh
16MB is enough to run FreeBSD for limited applications, with carefully crafted kernel. It is not enough to run sysinstall. Last I checked, sysinstall was pushing 24MB in size, with 32MB being really better. Warner ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org

Re: Old messages

2005-07-03 Thread Warner Losh
They were on all the lists. The result of someone mistakenly inserting them into the mail stream rather than his gmail account... Warner ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To

Re: HEADS UP! 6.0-RELEASE coming

2005-10-31 Thread Warner Losh
The ACPI+sio problem is known. I have a motherboard with a similar problem, though a different brand than yours. I solved it by removing the ACPI attachment from the sio code. The better solution is to allow loader hints to override ACPI hints. I tried talking to John Baldwin about

Re: HEADS UP! 6.0-RELEASE coming

2005-10-31 Thread Warner Losh
From: Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HEADS UP! 6.0-RELEASE coming Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:42:32 -0700 Warner Losh wrote: The ACPI+sio problem is known. I have a motherboard with a similar problem, though a different brand than yours. I solved it by removing the ACPI attachment

Re: HEADS UP! 6.0-RELEASE coming

2005-10-31 Thread Warner Losh
From: Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HEADS UP! 6.0-RELEASE coming Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:48:49 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Warner Losh wrote: From: Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HEADS UP! 6.0-RELEASE coming Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:42:32 -0700 Warner Losh

Re: Do we need this junk?

2007-04-05 Thread Warner Losh
legacyfree1# grep -irsn isa ./ | grep -i include From the system: no. From your kernel, absolutely. Warner ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL

Re: Do we need this junk?

2007-04-05 Thread Warner Losh
Des writes: Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anything in the list below be removed from CURRENT? No. Modern i386 and amd64 still have an ISA bus, and devices connected to that bus, even if they don't have ISA slots. The isa bus also is the catch-all on board I/O bus for

Boot problems part 2

1999-08-30 Thread Warner Losh
Here's the second part of the boot problems. When the system is coming up, I get the following on my console: additional daemons: syslogd. Doing addtional network setup: ntpdate portmap/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libwrap.so.2: Undefined symbol "nit" To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

login problem

1999-08-30 Thread Warner Losh
Same 990818 minimal install system: When I go to login I get Aug 29 19:32:31 dumpster login: unable to dlopen(/usr/lib/pam_skey.so) Aug 29 19:32:31 dumpster login: [dlerror: /usr/lib/libskey.so.2: Undefined symbol "MD4Final"] Aug 29 19:32:31 dumpster login: adding faulty module:

Re: PCI internal modem

1999-12-20 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gerhard Sittig writes: : ISA PnP section? If the port is a real serial port, it should He found it by 'demsg | grep serial'. It took me a while to read that in his original message. I've started the process of bringing the pci support code into the tree. Warner

Re: bugtraq posts: stream.c - new FreeBSD exploit?

2000-01-20 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Tancsa writes: : That was only a snippet. The poster claims to have contacted the freebsd : team and that they were working on it... I just wanted to know if this were : the case. We have the code and it isn't FreeBSD specific. Warner To Unsubscribe: send

Re: bugtraq posts: stream.c - new FreeBSD exploit?

2000-01-20 Thread Warner Losh
In message 4.2.2.2120172607.0198f1e0@localhost Brett Glass writes: : The name "stream.c" makes it sound like a local, not remote, DoS. Does : it have to be done from inside the system to be effective? I would think : that, if it came from the outside, it'd be harder to saturate the : victim.

Re: bugtraq posts: stream.c - new FreeBSD exploit?

2000-01-20 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Darren Reed writes: : What versions of FreeBSD are known to be vulnerable to it ? : : There appears to be some confusion about whether or not it is a wide : spread problem. All versions of {Free,Open,Net}BSD, Solaris, Linux, etc are vulnerable to some degree to this

Re: Warner's PCI Modem Driver

2000-01-26 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Jason C. Wells" writes: : So it turns out. My friend turned me on to a linux site that list the : braindead modems. URL? I'd love to see that list... : Mine was on the list. The guy at the shop said, "That's : stragne. I have a policy against carrying win-modems.

Re: Warner's PCI Modem Driver

2000-01-26 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan Zerkle writes: : I believe that they were bought by 3COM a few years back. I also : believe that they *invented* winmodems, so be careful. Yes. Be careful. There are two known good modems. One is the 3Com PCI FaxModem (model 5610). The other is ActionTec 56k

Re: HEADS UP: 3.x - 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions

2000-03-15 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcel Moolenaar writes: : Warner Losh wrote: : To update from 3.x to 4.0 stable : : cd /usr/src : make buildworld : cd sbin/mknod : make install : follow directions

Re: HEADS UP: 3.x - 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions

2000-03-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Kennaway writes: : I still think we should be recommending people use 'make buildkernel' to : build GENERIC and minimize the possibility of foot-shooting from a stupid : config file which then gets blamed on 4.0 itself. Besides, I tried to : rebuild my kernel

Re: Small spaces

2000-03-18 Thread Warner Losh
I have a 4.0-stable system running in 17MB of a 48MB CF card stuck in an IDE - CF adapter from www.tapr.org. I installed select binaries and libraries with a custom script. More heavy weight than picobsd, but a little easier to hack on after the fact. This is with ssh and enough of a world to

Re: 4.0: EtherExpress16 disappeared?

2000-03-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group writes: : Had the same problem with my 3C509B (ep0). Disabled all unneeded : drivers (boot -c) and it now works. A comment in the -current archives : by Warner (IIRC) stated that other drivers may trash the card's :

Re: HEADS UP: 3.x - 4.0-STABLE upgrade instructions

2000-03-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Jeffrey J. Mountin" writes: : Are you saying that da0a is (almost) functionally equivalent to da0s3a if : slice 3 is the first FBSD slice. Thought they were for "dangerously : dedicated" partitions. No. That's not correct. While they are used in dangerously

Re: netgear fa410TX and 4.x problems

2000-03-22 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joseph Lee writes: : Sorry for the delay. Just got back from SD2000 in San Jose. : : Anyways, I can try it (the patch is in archives?). I'm getting a mac of all : aa:aa:.. 8-bit card, NE1000, currently. : : pccard says "kludge version". I can do a dmesg dump if

Re: What does Voxware still supported in 4.0 mean exactly?

2000-03-23 Thread Warner Losh
I know that Walnut creek was most generous in their support of me in my cardbus efforts. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: C++ writing/compiling with 3.4 stable

2000-03-23 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Kanter writes: : How ANSI/ISO-compliant is 3.4 stable? I ask because compiling a C++ program : I just wrote needed the header files with the .h extension, and didn't like : using namespace std; : : And which version of gcc should I use? There is a 2.95 (egcs)

Re: What does Voxware still supported in 4.0 mean exactly?

2000-03-25 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: : This is a simple case of developer base. We have *one* person actively : working on sound support, aside from japanese developers (which, : unfortunately, are quite insular). Whatever HE spends time writing a : driver for, that's what we

Re: Let 3.x die ASAP?

2000-03-30 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Steve O'Hara-Smith" writes: : to be at least as good as 2.x'. ... if not better... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: sshd failure from Adding crypto later on -stable?

2000-03-31 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Kennaway writes: : On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Warner Losh wrote: : : : I don't see how it could have ;) The rsaref dependency is there for a : : reason, you know. : : Well, the machine that had this problem I was installing only a : limited number of parts

Re: sshd failure from Adding crypto later on -stable?

2000-03-31 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Kennaway writes: : Hrm. I'm at a loss as to how - you did have librsaref installed, : right? dlopen() should have found that one, and if it instead picked up : the symlinked version in /usr/lib it wouldn't be able to call the RSA : functions in rsaref. There

Re: Upgrading to 4.0

2000-03-31 Thread Warner Losh
In message 2331190328.A4215@gamma Alexander Frolkin writes: : AFAIK, it is necessary to install a 4.0 kernel before doing installworld. : According to src/UPDATING, pccardd needs to be recompiled to work with the : new kernel. The problem is that /usr/obj and /usr/src will be NFS mounted, :

Re: Building 4.x on 3.x

2000-04-01 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Housley writes: : I got an old pentium 100 laptop that I want to play around with 4.x on. : It's disk to too small to hold the source tree, obj tree and useful : programs. Is it okay to do the buildworld on my 3.4-Stable server with : more memory, speed, disk,

Re: make world failed

2000-04-04 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nik Clayton writes: : If you (or anyone else reading this) wants to step forward and maintain : either of these files, please yell now. For example, /usr/src/UPDATING : is currently empty in 3-stable because no one's volunteered to maintain : it. I have some entries

Re: 3.4-stable to 4.0-stable wedge

2000-04-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Randy Bush writes: : now where does that darn floppy go? You left it on the sofa when you dropped by. The refund check is under it. Sadly, after the first 5 beers, we started using it as a coaster. I sure wish AOL would send me another coaster soon, or I'll run

Re: How stable is the ATA code?

2000-04-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warner Losh writes: : Apollo 82c586B (aka MPV3). I have reason to believe that the statement above is inaccurate. I'm confusing two problem children at the moment. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-s

Re: Lucent Wavelan IEEE on 4.0-STABLE

2000-04-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Frost writes: : I'm having trouble with a Lucent Wavelan Silver IEEE card on : 4.0-STABLE. Something very odd is going on or I've screwed up : somewhere. It would appear that you have an interrupt conflict problem. Is IRQ 5 really free? As in no physical

Re: gcore doesn't work?

2000-05-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Malone writes: : It's in newer versions of 5.0 - I don't think it's in 4.0 yet (or : atleast it wasn't when I cvsupped this morning). The fix also needs : to be merged into the linuxprocfs at some stage. I was confused. You are right. I'm in the middle of a

Re: Server Farms?

2000-05-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Kirby writes: : You mean you don't have a serial console? And yes, I can see where it may : be impractical (network access only, no serial ports, etc). I'd never do a server farm w/o a serial console machine to serve the serial consoles on all the machines

Re: Server Farms?

2000-05-11 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Nowlin writes: : Long live "retired" Equinox 16-port terminal servers! VT100 on one : port, modem on another, and 14 machines. (Plus a parallel port as an : added bonus.) A buddy of mine has 4 8 port SCSI devices. 8 serial ports with modem control. Too bad

Re: Server Farms?

2000-05-11 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Nowlin writes: : I've been looking at this kind of thing recently. Several machines are out : of card slots, but they do have available SCSI ID numbers. Does he/you : have any info as to how they work?? Not much info. There's some info, but I'm not sure how

Re: NFS problems on 4.0-stable.

2000-05-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jaye Mathisen writes: : got bad cookie vp 0xd24bf1c0 bp 0xc9090500 : got bad cookie vp 0xd24bfda0 bp 0xc906ceb0 Seen these too. Not sure why. Too many other fire to fight. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable"

Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000

2000-05-18 Thread Warner Losh
The longest uptime we've had in the village is on the order of 525 days. We rebooted that machine because the power failed and the UPS' batteries didn't last the 26 hours it was out... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the

Re: Make world fails on latest 2.2.8...

2000-05-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Kennaway writes: : On Sun, 21 May 100, Andrew Wilson wrote: : : sorry if this seems like a trip back in time. Today I cvsup'd : 2.2.8-stable and ran make world. It croaked while compiling bin/ed: : : I think this was an overenthusiastic commit by Joe

Re: occasional reboots

2000-05-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kent Stewart writes: : One of the old Fijitsu 1GB scsi drives had an air flow requirement of : so many feet/second of air flow. The fan died and the drive case metal : turned blue just before the drive died. I never thought of an HD : getting that hot. I am not sure

Re: occasional reboots

2000-05-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Nowlin writes: : (Usually on my right index finger.) Discovered that I can strap an old : 486 heatsink/fan to the top of them, and that REALLY helps cool them down. : Just have to grind off the little "lips" that drop down over the sides of : the CPU so that

Re: GENERIC 4.0 kernel compile fails on in_cksum.c

2000-05-31 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Bharat Mediratta" writes: : I took Kris Kenneway's advice and switched to 4.0-RELEASE. The : quotes that I gave you are, in fact, from the 4.0-RELEASE : /usr/src/UPDATING file. I'm now somewhat committed to upgrading : once to 4.0-RELEASE and then from there to

Re: GENERIC 4.0 kernel compile fails on in_cksum.c

2000-05-31 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Kennaway writes: : Then perhaps you'd like to include instructions for overcoming the : in_cksum problem people have been seeing? :-) I don't know why they are seeing it. Here's what I did just now (well, it has been running a while, it just finished): setenv

Re: PCCARD support

2000-06-04 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archie Cobbs writes: : #1. First, here's a new entry for pccard.conf: : : # PreMax PE-200 Ethernet Card : card "PMX " "PE-200" : config auto "ed0" 11 0x10 : ether 0x7f0 : insert logger -t pccard:$device -s PREMAX PE-200

Re: Xircom PCMCIA card support

2000-06-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Kevin M. Dulzo" writes: : Ok, the xe driver works fine for me, however pccardd cannot attach : the driver. Any suggestions, patches in the works, that sort of thing? : As well, someone should consider reducing if not eliminating the XE_DEBUG : in the shipping

Re: Compatibility Question

2000-06-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matt Heckaman writes: : comparison to some, but I have a machine here running 512M of non-ECC for : over a year now without any ram-related problems. (HD did die once though) Without any ram-related problems that were detected you mean. without ECC or parity, you

Re: 4.0-Stable boot hangs

2000-06-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Karel J. Bosschaart" writes: : On 06/17 there was a change in sys/dev/ed/if_ed.c, which causes my ISA : NE2000 compatible to hang at boot time, just like in your case. I contacted : Paul Saab, who commited the change, about it and hope he will have a : solution. As a

Re: Almost serial consoles.

2000-06-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Gilbert writes: : While we have for some time used serial consoles from realweasel.com, : we are faced with a number of server motherboards without ISA slots. : I found it fairly easy to get the kernel to boot against the serial : console and there is an option

Re: FreeBSD 3.5 now available for x86

2000-06-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message 4.3.2.7.0.2627022543.00ab0cc0@vivaldi Sergei Vyshenski writes: : So FreeBSD has two stable branches? : Which one is more stable among stable for i386? : Say for use at a site that need reliable round-the-clock : gatewaing, named and mail operation? I'd use 4.0-stable. Warner To

Re: Annoying reverse hylighting in `more' 4.0-STsnap0624

2000-06-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harry Putnam writes: : Good info here, I'm still bogged down trying to get a network up on a : laptop with FreeBSD so getting tired of the obnoxious highlighting : since I'm pooring thru manpages constantly right now. Not that : familiar with FreeBSD and its just

Re: pcmcia fails to identify cards (4.0-stable cvsup 2000-06-26)

2000-06-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan Clegg writes: : Any ideas? Almost certainly a memory conflict. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable

2000-06-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Francisco Reyes" writes: : /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.4" not found UPDATING says: [5] If you get warnings from ld-elf.so that it cannot load libc.so, run 'ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc' and repeat the

Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable

2000-06-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joe Royce writes: : An alternative method of building a kernel is: : : cd /usr/src/usr.bin/genassym : make depend all install clean : cd ../../usr.sbin/config : make depend all install clean : cd ../../sys/i386/conf : config YOUR_KERNEL_HERE : cd

Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable

2000-06-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Francisco Reyes" writes: : Would someone please send-pr the current instructsions to go : from 3.4 to 4.X Stable. cvsup to get 4.x stable cat /usr/src/UPDATING Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of

Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable

2000-06-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Francisco Reyes" writes: : clarification... I mean to say if someone would send-prg to : update /usr/src/UPDATING. What update is needed? The instructions worked fine for me last time I tried it? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Kernel problem building from 3.4 stable to 4.X stable

2000-06-27 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Francisco Reyes" writes: : For one they are missing the references about genassym. No. They aren't. You don't need to build genassym. Buildkernel takes care of all of that. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable"

Re: problems building kernels

2000-07-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Mike O'Dell" writes: : is anyone else more than a little concerned that the people who : ostensibly understand all the details can't agree as to how to : do what and when?? The people that do understand the details do agree. Those that don't understand are still

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yerkernels

2000-07-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message 00b801bfeb66$94ab2960$9b239fc0@mobocracy "Shawn Barnhart" writes: : I guess I don't care which tools I use, so long as they do the right : thing, and, most importantly THAT THE METHODS ARE TOTALLY DOCUMENTED : WITH ALL THE QUIRKS IN THE FSCK'N HANDBOOK AND NOT JUST IN THE MAILING :

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to makeyerkernels

2000-07-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christoph Sold writes: : It is neither explained in /usr/src/UPDATING, nor in the above HEADS UP : message. : : A clear explanation, including all steps, would be helpful. The step : missing from the original HEADS UP is you have to move kernel.GENERIC to : kernel

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels

2000-07-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcel Moolenaar writes: : Greg Lehey wrote: : : On Wednesday, 12 July 2000 at 20:35:25 +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: : Greg Lehey wrote: : Yes. We could agree to change the tree to /usr/obj, but it should be : consistent whichever way you do it. In the

Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels

2000-07-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Brandon D. Valentine" writes: : On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: : : Without an architecture prefix/postfix/directory somewhere in the path, : this prevents concurrent cross-builds. : It would be v.nice to have a src/sys/arch directory structure

Re: kernel compile fails at agp_if.h

2000-07-28 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Bowen writes: : Whenever I have tried to make a new kernel for the past two days the : build dies in /src/sys/modules/agp : : What am I doing wrong? It does the same thing if I cd : /usr/src/sys/modues/agp/ and do a "make" H. I've not seen this. Lemme

Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels)

2000-08-02 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nate Williams writes: : Warner, I think you are confused. 'shutdown now' takes you to single : user mode. 'halt' will take you to the above prompt. I was confused between shutdown now and shutdown -h now. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels)

2000-08-02 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nate Williams writes: : : That's wrong. 'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode. 'shutdown -r now' : : will make it reboot. : : That's changed since the last time I did shutdown then :-). Of : course, that was 5 years ago or so... : : It's been that way

Re: nuking unsafe protocols (was Re: Upcoming rc.conf changes not loading certain currently loaded daemons)

2000-08-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vivek Khera writes: : s Surely rmt could work over ssh? : : Apparently not with its current implementation. It also must fallback : to using rcmd(3) for compatibility with other systems, if one were to : implement the ssh layer. OpenBSD's dump has this

Re: nuking unsafe protocols (was Re: Upcoming rc.conf changes not loading certain currently loaded daemons)

2000-08-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nathan Ahlstrom writes: : This PR may be of interest. : http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=15830 Actually, no. It isn't that interesting. More interesting would be something like the following which does it for all rcmd based things. It is out of OpenBSD,

Re: nuking unsafe protocols (was Re: Upcoming rc.conf changes not loading certain currently loaded daemons)

2000-08-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vivek Khera writes: : Wow! If voting is considered, I vote for such a patch to be included. : It makes sense considering that ssh is now part of the core system. Actually, it turns out to be a bad idea and we should use, I think, the more generic rcmdsh from OpenBSD

Re: Requesting input for a handbook section entry

2000-08-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris BeHanna writes: : I thought the pnp command went away in 4.x. Is it back for 4.1? It is gone in 4.x. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message

Re: nuking unsafe protocols (was Re: Upcoming rc.conf changes not loading certain currently loaded daemons)

2000-08-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Housley writes: : blaine wrote: : Umm, why not just use openbsd if security is the primary concern? : : Why shouldn't we provide the best level of security possible, using : OpenBSD as a target? We should be targetting things at a much higher level than

Re: Upcoming rc.conf changes not loading certain currently loaded daemons

2000-08-24 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Francisco Reyes" writes: : UPDATING and I guess that I didn't have it at that point.. I am I guess it doesn't help that the UPDATING file says to read the whole UPDATING file before proceeding :-) On a more serious note, the UPDATING file is now mentioned in the

Re: installworld runs out of disk

2000-08-29 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Randy Bush writes: : this is with softupdates, which could be a clue Turn softupdates off. Softupdates doesn't have the smarts to stall a request for space that could be fulfilled with a pending delete. Alternatively, get a bigger slash (big pita, I know). Might

Re: Why is gcc version so old?

2000-08-29 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew McNaughton writes: : Using a FreeBSD-3.4 box, I notice that it uses gcc version 2.7.2.3. This : came out in January 1997, which seems rather an old version to use. Can : anyone tell me why this is so? Because there were no more stable versions of gcc when

Re: problems with make world (Sunday)

2000-09-04 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Moran writes: : As far as I can tell there is no special documented procedure for : updating within the 4.X line. Should be able to do everything in the : ordinary way. I've done it that way on the current system. From UPDATING: To update from

Re: Perl Doesn't like XFree-4.0.1

2000-09-07 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ryan Losh writes: : that "THIS is where the LC_CTYPE is being set." Therefore, I need to : read the FreeBSD handbook and see how one goes about reporting a bug : in the ports (gnomelibs-1.2.4, to be exact). I am not an expert, but Short answer: cd

Re: PCCARD and suspend problem

2000-09-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov" writes: : Device ttyd2: name slot allocation failed (Errno=17) : Device ttyid2: name slot allocation failed (Errno=17) : Device ttyld2: name slot allocation failed (Errno=17) : Device cuaa2: name slot allocation failed (Errno=17) : Device

Re: Constant panics on 4.1-STABLE!

2000-09-23 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group writes: : Mentioned this quote to a co-worker yesterday, who claims to be a : handy-man. His question to me was, why the insult ductape? Duct Tape is great stuff. It can be used to fix a variety of things. It can be used to

Re: 4.1-RELEASE pccard?

2000-10-02 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas David Rivers writes: : This built find, and it seems to be setting the interrupt (i.e. I get : not timeouts.) OK. : But, I also don't seem to get connected... like I mentioned before, : a `ping' to another host on the local net will generate traffic : on the

Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable.

2000-10-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message A0E035400B00D4118F9E0008C70D4D77A88A@ITC1 Jon Paterson writes: : If these seem like trivial questions please do not flame me, I have never : attempted to do this before and do not want to damage a working system! From src/UPDATING: To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the

Re: breakage with two ed network devices

2000-10-06 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kenneth W Cochran writes: : How could ATA commits screw up the probing of ed0? : [...] : : ed0 living on an IRQ that is "reserved" (somehow) for one : of the ATA "channels?" (ie. 14 and/or 15?) They aren't reserved. : Given THAT information does anybody have any

Re: WU-FTPD

2000-10-07 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matt Heckaman writes: : However, if you need the features that wu-ftpd provide, and want an FTPD : with a good track record, you can check out ProFTPD, which is a lot easier : to use and far more flexible than wu-ftpd. Apache style configureation is : quite nice to

Re: Security problem with script?

2000-10-07 Thread Warner Losh
In message Pine.BSF.4.21.0010072304100.17477-10@localhost Frank Tobin writes: : Along the same lines, don't give a user sudo access to just run "xemacs", : unless you want them playing Tetris as root. Oh, wait...that's not the : worst thing they can do :) Yea. They could cheat and edit the

Re: /etc/defaluts/rc.conf

2000-10-23 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] root writes: : I was just wondering about an entry in /usr/src/UPDATING. I just : cvsup'ed/mergemaster'ed today. The section in question is: : 2907: : Networking defaults have been tightened. Anybody upgrading I think it was a premature MFC on my

Re: Old 4.0-R binaries remaining in 4.1.1-S

2000-10-23 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kenneth W Cochran writes: : As examples, these are the files in /usr/bin from the original : install which make {build,install}world have not clobbered: : -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6557 Mar 20 2000 systags : -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel46532 Mar 20 2000

Re: 4.2-BETA + Dell Inspiron 3800 + 3CEX589ET

2000-11-06 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : The above configuration locks up w/ GENERIC. I needed specify : a irq (10) to get the kernel to boot. If the 3CEX589ET is : removed the system will boot. I don't know what the right magic is, but you are definitely

Re: pcmcia nic problem

2000-11-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boris Samorodov writes: : On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Qing wrote: : : dmesg output : = : ... : sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 :^ : ... : ep0: 3Com Etherlink III 3C589 at port 0x240-0x24f irq 3 slot 0 on pccard0 :

Re: Multiport NIC needed

2000-11-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gregory Bond writes: : We have used the Intel twin fxp card since 3.2 with no problems. We've used the twin fxp cards since 3.2 as well. We've also used a tulip based de bard that was horrible. Mostly because the older tulips don't like some of the hubs that we've

Re: make modules kicks the first module directory twice

2000-11-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcel Moolenaar writes: : BTW: I'm also looking at Warner's patch. Maybe that's the better fix for : it, but I have to dig into the Makefiles a bit more to get a better : picture... The implications are that make obj isn't done unless you've run make depend first.

Re: libc shlib version

2000-11-15 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "David O'Brien" writes: : On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 12:21:02AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: : Maybe I'm crazy, but can't we find and kill the API change that caused : this and back it out for 4.x? I suspect it was the per interface stat : changes in the ne

Re: libc shlib version

2000-11-15 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jordan Hubbard writes: : Can we just stop arguing about this and bump the frickin' numbers already? : Time is running out! That's your call as RE. Since we don't know what change caused it, that's likely the least bad thing we can do. Warner To Unsubscribe: send

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Price writes: : Yep, that did it. Since Dell laptops are so commonplace it : would be nice get this fixed in the GENERIC before the release : goes out. I'm sure there is a more appropriate fix, but the : following patch worked for me. This won't be changed.

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blaz Zupan writes: : Sure, but I don't quite understand why it says "irq 0". Is that the same as : leaving the "irq" part out alltogether? irq 0 is there specifically so that the irq is listed in userconfig so that users can change it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blaz Zupan writes: : # Sure, but I don't quite understand why it says "irq 0". Is that the same as : # leaving the "irq" part out alltogether? : : The best I can tell it puts pcic in polling mode. I could be : wrong. :) : : Ok, then it is the same as leaving

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Baldwin writes: : Removing it should be fine. I think it is more of a hack to allow : an irq setting to be there for the kernel config to pick up on and : let the user edit. Yes. That's right. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lars Eggert writes: : I've added irq 10 to the pcic line (Windows tells me this is the correct : one), and cards are detected correctly during boot and work fine. However, : ejecting/inserting them whan the system is running doesn;t work anymore - : pccardd is silent,

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike ryan writes: : On 11/17/00, Warner Losh wrote: : In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Price writes: : : Yep, that did it. Since Dell laptops are so commonplace it : : would be nice get this fixed in the GENERIC before the release : : goes out. I'm sure

Re: 4.2-BETA hangs on boot

2000-11-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rasmus Skaarup writes: : I have a Compaq Armada M700 with the same pcic problem as the other guys : with Dell's and whatnot - I've read Warners mails stating the pro's and : con's of this situation. : : Please tell me how I can boot the 4.2-RC1 floppies, because I

Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated)

2000-11-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Lehey writes: : They waste space. In most cases, they're not needed. Isn't that : enough? No. Writing in 'C' isn't necesary and wastes space. That, in and of itself, isn't a reason to not use it. But like mike said, it was the ability to create these for

Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated)

2000-11-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Daniel O'Connor" writes: : At least remove the option from sysinstall so new users don't get : stuck with it. I strongly support this. It has burned me on several machines. I don't think that anyone will remove it from the kernel... Warner To Unsubscribe: send

Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated)

2000-11-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Lehey writes: : I wonder how long the current Microsoft partition table has to live, : anyway? Sooner or later people are going to have to move to LBA : addressing, or disks will get so big that the partition table can't : address them. Then, hopefully, we'll

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