Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-05-02 Thread Zane C. B-H.
On 2019-04-30 17:03, Miroslav Lachman wrote: David Chisnall wrote on 2019/04/30 10:22: On 29/04/2019 21:12, Joe Maloney wrote: With CFT version you chose to build, and package individual components such as sendmail with a port option.  That does entirely solve the problem of being able to

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-05-01 Thread George Michaelson
The current state of this looks logical: its the bare minimum to represent the .tgz which we recognized from install menu choices, which minimises any real SAT solver dependency load, because these are not cross-dependant in any strong sense. The goal surely would be to prove this works and test.

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-05-01 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Cy Schubert wrote on 2019/05/01 05:56: In message <292eadc6-3662-ec43-1175-53fc25248...@quip.cz>, Miroslav Lachman wri tes: David Chisnall wrote on 2019/04/30 10:22: On 29/04/2019 21:12, Joe Maloney wrote: With CFT version you chose to build, and package individual components such as sendmail

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-30 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <292eadc6-3662-ec43-1175-53fc25248...@quip.cz>, Miroslav Lachman wri tes: > David Chisnall wrote on 2019/04/30 10:22: > > On 29/04/2019 21:12, Joe Maloney wrote: > >> With CFT version you chose to build, and package individual components > >> such as sendmail with a port option. 

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-30 Thread Miroslav Lachman
David Chisnall wrote on 2019/04/30 10:22: On 29/04/2019 21:12, Joe Maloney wrote: With CFT version you chose to build, and package individual components such as sendmail with a port option.  That does entirely solve the problem of being able to reinstall sendmail after the fact without a

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-30 Thread David Chisnall
On 29/04/2019 21:12, Joe Maloney wrote: With CFT version you chose to build, and package individual components such as sendmail with a port option. That does entirely solve the problem of being able to reinstall sendmail after the fact without a rebuild of the userland (base) port but

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Joe Maloney
With CFT version you chose to build, and package individual components such as sendmail with a port option. That does entirely solve the problem of being able to reinstall sendmail after the fact without a rebuild of the userland (base) port but perhaps base flavors could solve that problem

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <201904291441.x3tefmid072...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. Grimes" writes: > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:09 AM Rodney W. Grimes < > > freebsd-...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Correct, this is ZFS only. And it's something we're using specific to > > > FreeNAS /

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
; > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Goran Meki? > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 9:43 AM > > > To: Kris Moore > > > Cc: Emmanuel Vadot ; FreeBSD Stable < > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; FreeBSD Current ; > > freebsd-

RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread kris
@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base > > > Why this thread has to go to all these lists? I receive any mail 5 times! > > Matthias Fair point. I'll restrict my replies to the -pkgbase list from here on out, suggest others do the same

RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread kris
; p...@freebsd.org; freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:09 AM Rodney W. Grimes < > > freebsd-...@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Correct, t

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Matthias Apitz
Why this thread has to go to all these lists? I receive any mail 5 times! matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub N € I N zur EU! "Gegen das EU-Europa der Banken, Konzerne und

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 10:05:59 -0400 Kris Moore wrote: > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:55 AM Emmanuel Vadot > wrote: > > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 09:25:05 -0400 > > Kris Moore wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:12 AM Emmanuel Vadot > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kris, > > > > > > > >

RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread kris
> > > > > Incorrect, os/kernel-debug installs /boot/kernel-debug which is (on > > 13-CURRENT) the Witness enabled kernel. os/kernel-debug-symbols are > > the /usr/lib/debug bits. > > I only see kernel-20190420203550_1.txz and kernel-debug- > 20190420203550.txz in

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Kris Moore
s Driven By Open Source > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Goran Meki? > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 9:43 AM > > To: Kris Moore > > Cc: Emmanuel Vadot ; FreeBSD Stable < > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; FreeBSD Current ; > freebsd-pkgb

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
amp; Servers Driven By Open Source > > -Original Message- > From: Goran Meki? > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 9:43 AM > To: Kris Moore > Cc: Emmanuel Vadot ; FreeBSD Stable > ; FreeBSD Current ; > freebsd-pkgb...@freebsd.org; freebsd-...@freebsd.org; > fr

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Kris Moore
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:55 AM Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 09:25:05 -0400 > Kris Moore wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:12 AM Emmanuel Vadot > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Kris, > > > > > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 15:52:21 -0400 > > > wrote: > > > > > > > FreeBSD Community,

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 09:25:05 -0400 Kris Moore wrote: > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:12 AM Emmanuel Vadot > wrote: > > > > > Hi Kris, > > > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 15:52:21 -0400 > > wrote: > > > > > FreeBSD Community, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD

RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread kris
pkgb...@freebsd.org; freebsd-...@freebsd.org; freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Kris Moore wrote: > We've written our own tool "sysutils/sysup" in GO which handles this. > It perform

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Goran Mekić
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Kris Moore wrote: > We've written our own tool "sysutils/sysup" in GO which handles this. It > performs updates using Boot-Environments to ensure that kernel/world are > updated at same time. If I'm right, UFS doesn't support boot environments, so how

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Kris Moore
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:12 AM Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > Hi Kris, > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 15:52:21 -0400 > wrote: > > > FreeBSD Community, > > > > > > > > I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and > 13-current > > using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are stock

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Emmanuel Vadot
Hi Kris, On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 15:52:21 -0400 wrote: > FreeBSD Community, > > > > I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and 13-current > using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are stock FreeBSD images which > will allow users to perform all updating via the

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 29/04/2019 11:52, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: This situation should be improved. Given that etcupdate is in all supported releases, we can even update UPDATING and the Handbook. So, does anyone have a pointer to the official procedure? Basically run: # etcupdate towards the end of

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Christoph Moench-Tegeder (c...@burggraben.net): > in a few entries without any detail. The Handbook (chapter 25.3) only ^ 23.5, of course. Regards, Christoph -- Spare Space ___

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Lars Engels (lars.eng...@0x20.net): > > What are the plans to get rid of the hellscape known as “mergemaster”? > > Is there anything exciting and new there either in base or any of the > > ixSystems projects? > > There's /usr/sbin/etcupdate in base. Unfortunately, the official documentation

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-29 Thread Lars Engels
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 09:29:37PM -0400, Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable wrote: > > > What are the plans to get rid of the hellscape known as “mergemaster”? > Is there anything exciting and new there either in base or any of the > ixSystems projects? There's /usr/sbin/etcupdate in base.

RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-28 Thread kris
vers Driven By Open Source -Original Message- From: Charles Sprickman Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 9:30 PM To: Paul Mather Cc: k...@ixsystems.com; FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base > On Apr 28, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Paul Mather wrote: > > On Apr 28, 201

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-28 Thread Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable
> On Apr 28, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Paul Mather wrote: > > On Apr 28, 2019, at 3:52 PM, wrote: > >> FreeBSD Community, >> >> >> >> I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and 13-current >> using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are stock FreeBSD images which >>

RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-28 Thread kris
) 943-4101 The Groundbreaking TrueNAS M-Series - Enterprise Storage & Servers Driven By Open Source -Original Message- From: Paul Mather Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 6:22 PM To: k...@ixsystems.com Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base On Apr 28, 2019, at 3:52 PM, wrote: >

Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-28 Thread Paul Mather
On Apr 28, 2019, at 3:52 PM, wrote: FreeBSD Community, I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and 13-current using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are stock FreeBSD images which will allow users to perform all updating via the 'pkg' command directly. Rather

CFT: FreeBSD Package Base

2019-04-28 Thread kris
FreeBSD Community, I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and 13-current using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are stock FreeBSD images which will allow users to perform all updating via the 'pkg' command directly. Rather than trying to answer all questions in