On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:37:41PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote:
OK I just do it. I just hope the maintainer can understand me...
As a first step: you say your server crashed. Did it panic? Do you
have debugging settings (INVARIANTS,
I have installed freeBSD more than 1000 times, on hundreds of machines.
Some
of them had no business being called a computer outright, as their
reliability
was more constrained by chaotic feedback than Von Newman architecture.
Memory would disappear while running, DRAM would fail, 3com NICS would
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 08:41:49AM +0100, Robert Watson wrote:
Apparently simply asking and
knowing it's available is sufficient, meaning that they tend not to be very
profitable business ventures, as apparently few people actually need
support :-). I guess the FreeBSD documentation and
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Mark Linimon wrote:
If you want something where guaranteed support comes bundled with the
operating system, get Windows and a support contract, Solaris and a support
contract, or possibly RedHat (or equivalent) and a support contract.
Otherwise, you are going to get we
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:56:33 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Linimon) wrote:
Otherwise, you are going to get we will do our best to provide a system,
for free, that works as well as possible for as many people as possible.
Good luck and help us to fix the inevitable bugs.
Other than the part
On Sun, 2006-Apr-09 17:56:51 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
If you have a dual-em card in this server, you should get better performance
putting your primary load out the em interface(s). In general, we've
benched the em (and to a lesser extent, the fxp) interfaces as performing
much better than
On 4/10/06, Peter Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
metoo
I can't comment on gigabit performance but at Fast Ethernet speeds,
I've found that fxp performs much better than dc, tl and tx NICs.
I've had fairly bad experiences with bge under even moderate load
(though the one in my laptop seems
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 05:23:53PM +0400, Alexey Karagodov wrote:
ok. then, freebsd-developers may change The Power To Serve to The Power
To Test, FreeBSD is an advanced operating system to FreeBSD is
an advanced operating system in stage of forever development, etc.
pay money to use stable
On Apr 10, 2006, at 17:56, Mark Linimon wrote:
In the meantime, we volunteers (who do at least 90% of the FreeBSD
work)
will continue trying to do our best, with no written guarantee that it
will suit your purposes.
If you read the EULA on most commercial operating systems you'll find
On Monday 10 April 2006 18:56, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 05:23:53PM +0400, Alexey Karagodov wrote:
ok. then, freebsd-developers may change The Power To Serve to The
Power To Test, FreeBSD is an advanced operating system to FreeBSD is
an advanced operating system in stage
If you have a dual-em card in this server, you should get better performance
putting your primary load out the em interface(s). In general, we've
benched the em (and to a lesser extent, the fxp) interfaces as performing
much better than other ethernets (especially bge). I have a bge on my
laptop
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
If you have a dual-em card in this server, you should get better performance
putting your primary load out the em interface(s). In general, we've
benched the em (and to a lesser extent, the fxp) interfaces as performing
much better than other ethernets (especially
At 08:14 AM 07/04/2006, Albert Shih wrote:
The 6-stable is installed on the server on begin of February 2006
Problems :
bge0 watchdog timeout problems
bge0 watchdog timeout problems
There have been a number of improvements to the bge driver in late
Who in their right mind would think that stable actually means
stable!!!
It does mean that the API is stable.
/\
||
Then maybe it should be called api-stable!!
You can't believe how disappointed I was. I thought I was going
Hi all
I've sent a message two days ago with Disappointed subject.
Many of you answer me I don't have describe the bug.
Well, first my english is very bad, and second I don't blame anyone, never
the developper. Personnaly I'm very impresse by the work you doing.
Now a fine description of my
ok! tell me, how can i help you to make stable - stable?
please. don't answer me - GIVE US MONEY!
i will not pay!
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Alexey Karagodov wrote:
ok! tell me, how can i help you to make stable - stable?
please. don't answer me - GIVE US MONEY!
i will not pay!
(1) install -STABLE on a variety of hardware and put load on it
(2) carefully note any issues, collecting as much detail as possible
(3) search the
thanx :)
it not everytime working (i've this exprerience), but i will try :) to ask
help again if needed ...
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hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to make
two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they
supporting old version, lower then 6.0
i want to ask developers, why you developing new system, 7.0, if you don't
finish old, 6.0 ?!
finish 6.0, make
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
needs, make a mirror, make a test server/workstation/notebook/PDA
etc. i'm not an freebsd developer. i'm just admin and a user.
your system is most greatest i ever seen. another wonderful system is
SOLARIS.
but your's is so unstable ...
I never could really undertand
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to make
two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they
supporting old version, lower then 6.0
i want to ask developers, why you developing new system, 7.0, if you don't
Quoting Artem Kuchin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
needs, make a mirror, make a test server/workstation/notebook/PDA
etc. i'm not an freebsd developer. i'm just admin and a user.
your system is most greatest i ever seen. another wonderful system is
SOLARIS.
but your's is so
Sorry, forgot to add the list into CC...
-- Forwarded message --
From: Dennis Melentyev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 06.04.2006 16:12
Subject: Re: Disappointed
To: Alexey Karagodov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alexey,
2006/4/6, Alexey Karagodov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
hi.
i think, this unstablity
2006/4/6, Dennis Melentyev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Alexey,
2006/4/6, Alexey Karagodov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to
make
two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they
supporting old version, lower then
Quoting Alexey Karagodov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2006/4/6, Dennis Melentyev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Alexey,
2006/4/6, Alexey Karagodov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to
make
two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and
On Thursday 06 April 2006 10:23, Alexey Karagodov wrote:
FreeBSD is an advanced operating system to FreeBSD is
an advanced operating system in stage of forever development, etc.
thank god and specially the developers that it is so !
I hope that this never change ..
João
A mensagem foi
2006/4/6, Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Alexey Karagodov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2006/4/6, Dennis Melentyev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Alexey,
2006/4/6, Alexey Karagodov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to
make
two systems
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 05:23:53PM +0400, Alexey Karagodov wrote:
ok. then, freebsd-developers may change The Power To Serve to The Power
To Test, FreeBSD is an advanced operating system to FreeBSD is
an advanced operating system in stage of forever development, etc.
pay money to use stable
Quoting Alexey Karagodov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2006/4/6, Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Alexey Karagodov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2006/4/6, Dennis Melentyev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Alexey,
2006/4/6, Alexey Karagodov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 06:03:55PM +0400, Alexey Karagodov wrote:
and again. if *NIX developers can't answer user's question, they say get
out or it's your problem or try something else or For that matter;
you're not required to use it at all. everytime one answer for multiple
question WE ARE
Igor Robul wrote:
Please tell me name of any OS which works on all current and future
hardware without any problems and without rewriting drivers.
MS-DOS. Runs on all current and future 32-bit or 32-bit-compatible
x86-based computers. Hardware it actually supports (we're talking the OS
itself,
On 4/6/06, [LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to make
two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they
supporting old version, lower then 6.0
i want to ask developers,
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 09:25:44AM -0500, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
Igor Robul wrote:
Please tell me name of any OS which works on all current and future
hardware without any problems and without rewriting drivers.
MS-DOS. Runs on all current and future 32-bit or 32-bit-compatible
x86-based
Quoting Igor Robul [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 09:25:44AM -0500, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
Igor Robul wrote:
Please tell me name of any OS which works on all current and future
hardware without any problems and without rewriting drivers.
MS-DOS. Runs on all current and future
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
2006/4/6, Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[ ... ]
and again. if *NIX developers can't answer user's question, they say get
out or it's your problem or try something else or For that matter;
you're not required to use it at all. everytime one answer for multiple
question WE
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 06:45:11PM +0400, Igor Robul wrote..
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 09:25:44AM -0500, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
Igor Robul wrote:
Please tell me name of any OS which works on all current and future
hardware without any problems and without rewriting drivers.
MS-DOS.
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 09:27:10AM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
On 4/6/06, [LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
your system is most greatest i ever seen. another wonderful system is
SOLARIS.
but your's is so unstable ...
All this is described in many
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Chuck Swiger wrote:
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
2006/4/6, Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[ ... ]
and again. if *NIX developers can't answer user's question, they say get
out or it's your problem or try something else or For that matter;
you're not required to use it at all.
Hi!
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 05:29:16PM +0200, Holger Kipp wrote:
# ATTENTION
[...]
(*) which most people will ignore -- they also ignore the
relevant handbook-entries and they would also ignore
different tag-names like -SHOOTYOURSELFINTHEFOOT or
-REALLYVERYUNSTABLE,
[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to make
two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they
supporting old version, lower then 6.0
i want to ask developers, why you developing new system,
Stephen Clark wrote:
[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to
make
two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they
supporting old version, lower then 6.0
i want to ask developers, why
[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
Stephen Clark wrote:
[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to
make
two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they
supporting old version, lower then 6.0
i
Stephen Clark wrote:
[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
Stephen Clark wrote:
[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to
make
two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they
supporting old
There are various degrees of stability:
7-CURRENT: active development, lots of experimental and possibly unsafe
things in there.
6-STABLE: proven changes from 7-CURRENT go in here. API is mandated to
be stable, and only well tested and fucntionally stable changes should
go in.
Stephen Clark wrote:
[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
Stephen Clark wrote:
[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to
make
two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they
supporting old version, lower then
On 06/04/06, Jonathan Noack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stephen Clark wrote:
[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
Stephen Clark wrote:
[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
Alexey Karagodov wrote:
hi.
i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to
make
two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and
Hi all
I'm disappointed by the stablity of FreeBSD 6-stable (I known it's
developpement branche).
I'm using FreeBSD from 3.4 and using regulary 5-stable in production.
Now on my central server (nfs server) I make big update, and running
6-stable from 02/2006. From this date until today I've
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:03:41PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote:
Hi all
I'm disappointed by the stablity of FreeBSD 6-stable (I known it's
developpement branche).
You forgot to provide pointers to your PRs.
Kris
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On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 04:07:27PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:03:41PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote:
Hi all
I'm disappointed by the stablity of FreeBSD 6-stable (I known it's
developpement branche).
You forgot to provide pointers to your PRs.
By this I mean
Le 05/04/2006 à 16:07:27-0400, Kris Kennaway a écrit
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:03:41PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote:
Hi all
I'm disappointed by the stablity of FreeBSD 6-stable (I known it's
developpement branche).
You forgot to provide pointers to your PRs.
Well... I don't have make
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:15:00PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote:
Le 05/04/2006 ? 16:07:27-0400, Kris Kennaway a ?crit
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:03:41PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote:
Hi all
I'm disappointed by the stablity of FreeBSD 6-stable (I known it's
developpement branche
Le 05/04/2006 à 16:21:00-0400, Kris Kennaway a écrit
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:15:00PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote:
Le 05/04/2006 ? 16:07:27-0400, Kris Kennaway a ?crit
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:03:41PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote:
Hi all
I'm disappointed by the stablity
As a general rule: unless you can explain your problem in sufficient
detail, preferably including either how to reproduce it, or at least
an exact description of what happens when it fails, it's unlikely that
anyone can help you.
What type of hardware is the nfs-server running on? What type
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:37:41PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote:
OK I just do it. I just hope the maintainer can understand me...
As a first step: you say your server crashed. Did it panic? Do you
have debugging settings (INVARIANTS, WITNESS) enabled? Do you have
DDB enabled? Read
At 04:37 PM 05/04/2006, Albert Shih wrote:
NB: Why this kind of problem can happen ? I ask this because until 6. I
never have this kind of problem.
Think about it this way, if one of your users came to you and said,
its not working. I need you to fix it... You would start by getting
your
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:15:00PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote:
Le 05/04/2006 à 16:07:27-0400, Kris Kennaway a écrit
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:03:41PM +0200, Albert Shih wrote:
Hi all
I'm disappointed by the stablity of FreeBSD 6-stable (I known it's
developpement branche
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