Re: Releases means?

2002-07-13 Thread Andrew McNaughton
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Tortise@Paradise wrote: Hi I've been trying to sort out which update to download. I seek a stable version of FreeBSD. Am I correct that of the Current and Stable paths there are releases for each? ie that there are Current Releases and Stable Releases? I have

Re: Releases

2001-04-12 Thread Nik Clayton
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 06:20:18PM -0400, Dan Langille wrote: On 11 Apr 2001, at 22:51, Nik Clayton wrote: Done. Did I miss the commit? When was this done? 21:50 last night, to src/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile, on the RELENG_4 branch. ID 1.17.2.2. N -- FreeBSD: The Power to

Re: Releases

2001-04-11 Thread jonathan michaels
oliver, On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 03:45:41PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Apr 2001, at 14:48, David O'Brien wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 06:32:15AM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: AFAIK, the thread to date has been about whether or not

Re: Releases

2001-04-11 Thread Oliver Fromme
jonathan michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 03:45:41PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: Maybe it would reduce confusion somewhat if people would just stop saying ``4.1-stable'' etc. Those simply do not exist. I would also vote for ``uname -r'' saying

Re: Releases

2001-04-11 Thread Pete French
Maybe it would reduce confusion somewhat if people would just stop saying ``4.1-stable'' etc. Those simply do not exist. Best idea so far, and consequently change the bit in the handbook that implies that -STABLE is a bug fix to the last release, independent of the changes to making the next

RE: Releases

2001-04-11 Thread Michael Butler
snipped a tad -Original Message- From: Oliver Fromme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2001 15:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Releases I would also vote for ``uname -r'' saying ``4-STABLE'' and appending the date (similar to the snapshot naming

Re: Releases

2001-04-11 Thread jonathan michaels
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 09:48:57PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: jonathan michaels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 03:45:41PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: Maybe it would reduce confusion somewhat if people would just stop saying ``4.1-stable'' etc. Those simply do not

Re: Why not stick with [STABLE] [Was: RE: Releases]

2001-04-10 Thread Jeffrey J. Mountin
At 08:18 PM 4/9/01 -0700, Yann Sommer wrote: Heya all, I've been following this thread with some extra attention, since I remember beeing new to FreeBSD and complaining about a dedicated Server I ordered, running BETA. It is just, as has been mentioned a few times before on this list, against

Re: Releases

2001-04-10 Thread Nik Clayton
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 03:54:32PM -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote: Next, the case of the bind and ntpd updates. Yes, these were fixed in -STABLE and -CURRENT very quickly, but were only documented in UPDATING. How many people who are running -RELEASE have this? That's right, none. If the

Re: Releases

2001-04-10 Thread Nik Clayton
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:29:43AM +1200, Dan Langille wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Christopher Schulte wrote: At 03:45 AM 4/10/2001 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: Give meaningful and widely used names to things which people are familiar with. -CURRENT fits all those requirements. In this

Re: Releases

2001-04-10 Thread Nik Clayton
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 05:55:13PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: Jordan Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] types: Just because the problem is difficult to solve does not mean it can not be or should not be solved. Fine, how about you solve it and the rest of us will get back to all the other stuff

Re: Releases

2001-04-10 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 01:38:15PM -0400, Michael R. Rudel wrote: x.x-BETA is ... notoriously buggy. It has bugs, that's the point of the x.y-GAMMA rather than x.y-BETA might would be a good move. Then we'd have 1/2 the world asking what "GAMMA" means. We could then hit over the head them

RE: Releases

2001-04-10 Thread Juha Saarinen
:: Seems to me that if the lowest-common-denominator had some way to :: stay stable that didn't involve using cvsup or a compiler, this would :: be a non-issue. :: :: Numbered binary patches, anyone? Troll! ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable"

Re: Releases

2001-04-09 Thread Christopher Schulte
At 03:45 AM 4/10/2001 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: Give meaningful and widely used names to things which people are familiar with. -CURRENT fits all those requirements. I'm not as hot about the BETA designation, but generally feel it should be left alone simply because it's documented, and

Re: Releases

2001-04-09 Thread Michael R. Rudel
[... SNIP ...] Personally, I don't see a problem with the -CURRENT and -STABLE naming scheme. As someone said, anybody who can CVSup (not to mention get the sample CVSup files to work off of) yet not read the rest of the documentation has other issues. Renaming -CURRENT to -DEV or -DEVEL would

Re: Releases

2001-04-09 Thread Jordan Hubbard
By this designation, we could call a brake a clutch and get away with it because it's all documented. The problem is not with the documentation. It's with the name. That's a nice pat answer, but the problem is that for every value of "name" we propose, somebody comes forward and says "But

Re: Releases

2001-04-09 Thread Dan Langille
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Christopher Schulte wrote: At 03:45 AM 4/10/2001 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: Give meaningful and widely used names to things which people are familiar with. -CURRENT fits all those requirements. In this case, the familiarity is reduced to those familiar with the project.

Re: Releases

2001-04-09 Thread Markus Holmberg
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 10:26:50AM -0500, Christopher Schulte wrote: Change the designation just because some admins don't know how to RTFM? I don't think so... They fu*ked up. Plain and simple. -CURRENT makes sense, and more importantly is documented for those who take the time to

Re: Releases

2001-04-09 Thread Dan Langille
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Michael R. Rudel wrote: [... SNIP ...] Personally, I don't see a problem with the -CURRENT and -STABLE naming scheme. As someone said, anybody who can CVSup (not to mention get the sample CVSup files to work off of) yet not read the rest of the documentation has other

Re: supfile idea (was Re: Releases)

2001-04-09 Thread Jeffrey J. Mountin
At 10:04 PM 4/9/01 -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote: I like the idea of stable-supfile, so it should stay. standard-supfile should *definitely* refer to the -REL in which it is a part of. In that case, a novice user who doesn't change anything would end up cvsup'ing code that they already have on