Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-02 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 01/07/2013 21:50 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: The issue is that ZFS on FreeBSD is still young compared to other filesystems (specifically UFS). That's a fact. Nothing is perfect, but FFS/UFS tends to have a significantly larger number of bugs worked out of it to the point where

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-02 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 08:59:56AM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 01/07/2013 21:50 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: The issue is that ZFS on FreeBSD is still young compared to other filesystems (specifically UFS). That's a fact. Nothing is perfect, but FFS/UFS tends to have a

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-02 Thread Greg Byshenk
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 12:57:16AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: But in the OP's case, the situation sounds dire given the limitations -- limitations that someone (apparently not him) chose, which greatly hinder debugging/troubleshooting. Had a heterogeneous setup been chosen, the

ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Scott Sipe
Hello, I have not had much time to research this problem yet, so please let me know what further information I might be able to provide. This weekend I attempted to upgrade a computer from 8.2-RELEASE-p3 to 8.4 using freebsd-update. After I rebooted to test the new kernel, I got a panic. I had

ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Scott Sipe
*** Sorry for partial first message! (gmail sent after multiple returns apparently?) *** Hello, I have not had much time to research this problem yet, so please let me know what further information I might be able to provide. This weekend I attempted to upgrade a computer from 8.2-RELEASE-p3 to

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 11:35:30AM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote: *** Sorry for partial first message! (gmail sent after multiple returns apparently?) *** Hello, I have not had much time to research this problem yet, so please let me know what further information I might be able to provide.

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 08:49:25AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: - Is there a reason you do not have dumpdev defined in /etc/rc.conf (or alternately, no swap device defined in /etc/fstab (which will get used/honoured by the dumpdev=auto (the default)) ? This should have read or

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org To: Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-stable List freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 11:35:30AM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Paul Mather
On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 11:35:30AM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote: *** Sorry for partial first message! (gmail sent after multiple returns apparently?) *** Hello, I have not had much time to research this problem yet, so please

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 11:35:30AM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote: *** Sorry for partial first message! (gmail sent after multiple returns apparently?) *** Hello,

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Scott Sipe
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org wrote: Of course when I see lines like this: Trying to mount root from zfs:zroot

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 01/07/2013 20:04 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: People are operating with the belief that ZFS just works, when reality shows it works until it doesn't That reality applies to everything that a man creates with a purpose to work. I am not sure why you are so over-focused on ZFS. Please

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 02:04:24PM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote: On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org wrote: Of course when I see

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 09:10:45PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 01/07/2013 20:04 Jeremy Chadwick said the following: People are operating with the belief that ZFS just works, when reality shows it works until it doesn't That reality applies to everything that a man creates with a purpose

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.com So I realize that neither 8.2-RELEASE or 8.4-RELEASE are stable, but I ultimately wasn't sure where the right place to go for discuss 8.4 is? Beyond the FS mailing list, was there a better place for my question? I'll provide the

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 01.07.2013 um 20:56 schrieb Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk: - Original Message - From: Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.com So I realize that neither 8.2-RELEASE or 8.4-RELEASE are stable, but I ultimately wasn't sure where the right place to go for discuss 8.4 is? Beyond the FS

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Alban Hertroys
On Jul 1, 2013, at 19:04, Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org wrote: But even stable/X doesn't provide enough coverage at times (the recent fxp(4)/dhclient issue is proof of that). It's just too bad so many people have this broken mindset of what stability means on FreeBSD. As one of the few

Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update

2013-07-01 Thread Xin Li
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/01/13 09:10, Steven Hartland wrote: [...] This says your running a 8.2-RELEASE-p3 kernel not an 8.4-RELEASE kernel. Did the upgrade fail or is that dmesg / uname from your old kernel? Looking at the context, he used freebsd-update to