Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-26 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Jeremy Chadwick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * I'm left questioning why a disk manufacturer would process drives (by this I mean the manufacturing process) differently based on their transport type. It would cost a *huge* amount of money to have separate fabs for SCSI, SAS, and SATA/PATA.

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-25 Thread Oliver Fromme
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: * Hard disks are growing in capacity, but are not growing in physical size. We're pushing 1TB in a 3.5 form factor. And the same applies to laptop (2.5) drives. The margin of error continues to increase as we try to cram more and more data in such a small medium.

RE: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Daniel Eriksson
Bill Swingle wrote: I have a fileserver that currently has a 4-disc raid connected to an IDE 3ware card. I had hoped to replace this dying system with a pair of synchronized 1TB SATA drives. When trying to newfs them both eventually failed with DMA READ or WRITE timeouts. Here's some infos:

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Tuesday 24 July 2007, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 07:40:21PM -0700, Bill Swingle wrote: Doh, I knew I forgot something in my original email. Here's the full dmesg: http://dub.net/rum.dub.net.dmesg Actually you did

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:30:49PM -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote: I don't have any experience with the Hitachi 1TB SATA drives, but I know an outfit that was trying out the Seagate 1TB drives and had 8 out of 12 fail their burn-in (a 3 day torture test) My luck with consumer SATA drives has

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 11:26:04AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote.. On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:30:49PM -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote: I don't have any experience with the Hitachi 1TB SATA drives, but I know an outfit that was trying out the Seagate 1TB drives and had 8 out of 12 fail their

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Tuesday 24 July 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: * SCSI is outrageously expensive even in 2007. I have yet to see any shred of justification for why SCSI costs so much *even today*. It costs only a smidgen less than it did 15 years ago. * SCSI is on its way out. Seagate recently announced

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi, all! To add fuel to the fire, Seagate *again* sent me a refurbished drive (and I used their advanced replacement program), which has sat in a box unopened since received. I ended up buying two WD 500GB drives to replace the single Seagate; one of the drives is used for nothing other

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Scott Long
Wilko Bulte wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 11:26:04AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote.. On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:30:49PM -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote: I don't have any experience with the Hitachi 1TB SATA drives, but I know an outfit that was trying out the Seagate 1TB drives and had 8 out of

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Scott Long
Josh Paetzel wrote: On Tuesday 24 July 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: * SCSI is outrageously expensive even in 2007. I have yet to see any shred of justification for why SCSI costs so much *even today*. It costs only a smidgen less than it did 15 years ago. * SCSI is on its way out.

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-24 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 08:44 PM 7/23/2007, Bill Swingle wrote: After several tries I was able to get both disks newfs'd and mounted but they quickly fell down with DMA timeouts. On one occasion the machine actually panic'd too: Hi, What options do you have set in the BIOS for the sata controller ? Do

problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-23 Thread Bill Swingle
Hello all, I've run across a problem that I hope someone can aid me with. I have a fileserver that currently has a 4-disc raid connected to an IDE 3ware card. I had hoped to replace this dying system with a pair of synchronized 1TB SATA drives. When trying to newfs them both eventually failed

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-23 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Bill Swingle wrote: I've read that bad SATA cables could cause this, the cables I'm using are brand new but are probably pretty cheap. Unlike they're both faulty too.. You need to post your dmesg otherwise we have no idea what controller you're using.. -- Daniel

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-23 Thread Bill Swingle
Doh, I knew I forgot something in my original email. Here's the full dmesg: http://dub.net/rum.dub.net.dmesg Here's the controller info: atapci1: Intel ICH5 SATA150 controller port 0xec00-0xec07,0xe800-0xe803,0xe400-0xe407,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdc0f irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata2: ATA

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-23 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 07:40:21PM -0700, Bill Swingle wrote: Doh, I knew I forgot something in my original email. Here's the full dmesg: http://dub.net/rum.dub.net.dmesg Actually you did include this in your original Email. I think Daniel overlooked it. :-) After looking at your dmesg and

Re: problems with Hitachi 1TB SATA drives

2007-07-23 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 07:40:21PM -0700, Bill Swingle wrote: Doh, I knew I forgot something in my original email. Here's the full dmesg: http://dub.net/rum.dub.net.dmesg Actually you did include this in your original Email. I think Daniel