Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

2012-07-10 Thread Anders Jackson
I can't understand why som many are so locked into one public IP address per home, when we at least can have 2^64 different addresses if we uses IPv6. And with some sertificates we can even encrypt communication between sites. We also doesn't need to handle NAT (in any other way but to get out

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

2012-07-10 Thread Michiel de Jong
Hi Anders, In an ideal world, yes, but in order for the freedombox to be useful for mainstream users, we have to be compatible with the current situation of the world outside, which (still) involves IPv4, DNS, browsers' white lists for CAs, etcetera.

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

2012-07-10 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 08:54:01AM +0200, Anders Jackson wrote: And about certificates, there are not only StartSSL (https://stratssk.com), which is good but we also have have CAcert (https://CAcert.org/) which should be a good infrastructure for a project like ours. Using self-signed certs

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

2012-07-10 Thread Michiel de Jong
i appreciate that we as power users can use those things, but our goal with freedombox is to make something for 'normal' people. If you visit https://g10code.com/steed.html using for instance Chrome, you get a big page saying you are under attack and this domain is unsafe. In Firefox it's grey,

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

2012-07-10 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 10 July 2012 13:44, Michiel de Jong mich...@unhosted.org wrote: i appreciate that we as power users can use those things, but our goal with freedombox is to make something for 'normal' people. If you visit https://g10code.com/steed.html using for instance Chrome, you get a big page saying

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

2012-07-10 Thread Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Michiel de Jong mich...@unhosted.org wrote: i appreciate that we as power users can use those things, but our goal with freedombox is to make something for 'normal' people. If you visit https://g10code.com/steed.html using for instance Chrome, you get a big

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

2012-07-10 Thread Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 July 2012 13:44, Michiel de Jong mich...@unhosted.org wrote: Sorry for being a bit slow, I'm trying to understand the pagekite proposal better. Please don't call it a pagekite proposal. The initiative

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012

2012-07-10 Thread Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the explanation. In practical terms, where, typically would/could this reverse proxy run? There are a few options: 1) A commercial provider (e.g. my pagekite.net service) 2) A VPS or home server

[Freedombox-discuss] FBx config mgmt update

2012-07-10 Thread bnewbold
Spoke with James and a few others here at the OpenITP event, notes and a rought plan are below. Some of this feels like reinventing the wheel; a future/mature implementation might use: D-Bus for message passing, PolicyKit for access control, Augeas for read/write or building off

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] FBx config mgmt update

2012-07-10 Thread bnewbold
Also, just to be explicit, this would provide process separation, but does not address local user authentication or access control. Eg, in this scheme plinth would have permissions to edit all configuration files and would need to authenticate users for access control on it's own (it doesn't