Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-06-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
With the way most residential routers are set up, and the way in which most privacy-preserving software leaves the ugly details of traversing a NAT to the user, I can think of only a few ways I would benefit from having a freedombox.  That is-- I can't think of a single instance where routing

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-31 Thread Michael Rauch
On 05/31/2012 02:44 AM, Nat Tuck wrote: In my mind, the key piece of functionality for a freedombox would be as my authoritative address book. From there, email, jabber, SIP, status.net http://status.net, diaspora, etc, are just obvious extensions. This is really the key, because whoever owns

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-30 Thread Nat Tuck
In my mind, the key piece of functionality for a freedombox would be as my authoritative address book. From there, email, jabber, SIP, status.net, diaspora, etc, are just obvious extensions. This is really the key, because whoever owns your address book owns everything that uses it automatically.

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-05-27 at 11:54pm, Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote: A minor clarification... :-) On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: The approaches I can think of are: a) pagekite et al, which would then become a central point of attack/failure Yes and

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-27 Thread P S
On May 27, 2012, at 1:21, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: So let us standardize hardware and protocols for Proper Net Connection. I am very much in favor of that journey. But knowing that the Freedombox is really about taking currently existing software and having it

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-05-27 at 08:22am, P S wrote: On May 27, 2012, at 1:21, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: So let us standardize hardware and protocols for Proper Net Connection. I am very much in favor of that journey. But knowing that the Freedombox is really about taking currently

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-27 Thread Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson
A minor clarification... :-) On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: The approaches I can think of are: a) pagekite et al, which would then become a central point of attack/failure Yes and no. PageKite's central point of failure is by design the exact same

[Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-27 Thread tor...@riseup.net
On Fri, 25 May 2012 01:56:45 + freedombox-discuss-requ...@lists.alioth.debian.org wrote: A little website, a blog with a gallery, probably wordpress social bookmarks storage (like scuttle), something to store small pieces of data (bookmarks.json and such), i do it at /var/www/content right

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-26 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Sat, 26 May 2012, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Jay Sulzberger j...@panix.com To: freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org Cc: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Jay Sulzberger j...@panix.com To: freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for? On Sat, 26 May 2012, Jonathan Wilkes jancs

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-25 Thread Dan Ballance
Hi, Probably somewhat idealistic, but I would eventually like freedombox to be: * a distributed p2p social media network; * a basic replacement for as many commercial cloud services that track and monitor us as possible, so: gmail, gdocs, gcalendar, drop box etc * a mesh network for resilience

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 08:44:07AM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 07:27:32PM -0400, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: Mesh network, dropbox. Owncloud would seem a good application -- appropriately contained (virtual jail), of course. Oh -- and I forgot Tahoe LAFS, of course.

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-25 Thread Dan Ballance
This looks an interesting project. I've not seen this before, thanks :) On 25 May 2012 07:44, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 07:27:32PM -0400, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: Mesh network, dropbox. Owncloud would seem a good application -- appropriately contained (virtual

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-25 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2012-05-25 at 08:44:07 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 07:27:32PM -0400, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: Mesh network, dropbox. Owncloud would seem a good application -- appropriately contained (virtual jail), of course. For the drop-box part there is also the git-annex_

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-25 Thread James Valleroy
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com wrote: So, I always worry that we (as a list and project) might end up chasing ideals or hypotheticals (wouldn't it be cool if...) instead of actual, deliverable, software. To help prevent that, I'd like to hear from folks

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-25 Thread Rick Hodgin
: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for? To: Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com, freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org Date: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 7:27 PM Mesh network, dropbox. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: Nick M. Daly

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-25 Thread bnewbold
short term practical wants: - redundant git repository backup - redundant crypto key backup (eg, plan B to regain access to other servers/identity) - personal information store: address book, calendering - VPN/tor/ipv6/cjdns end node (as a gateway for other traffic) - general purpose shell

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-25 Thread Anders Jackson
- p2p backup on other FreedomBoxes Would be not to hard built upon git-annex, as Elena ``of Valhalla'' mentioned. I can be set up so that each file is stored in more than one place, and synced when needed. Jabber would also be a good infrastructure to build upon. It's designed to do a lot more

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-25 Thread Michael Rauch
On 05/25/2012 12:45 AM, Nick M. Daly wrote: [..] I want to use it as: - A Jabber Server. - A replacement for DropBox (a file storage / synchronization system). - A wiki/Evernote replacement (for all those crazy ideas I want to write down somewhere). Anybody else? my wishlist: - address

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-25 Thread Isaac Wilder
On 05/25/2012 11:19 AM, Anders Jackson wrote: - p2p backup on other FreedomBoxes Would be not to hard built upon git-annex, as Elena ``of Valhalla'' mentioned. I can be set up so that each file is stored in more than one place, and synced when needed. This could also be accomplished with a

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-25 Thread Samuel Rose
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com wrote: So, I always worry that we (as a list and project) might end up chasing ideals or hypotheticals (wouldn't it be cool if...) instead of actual, deliverable, software.  To help prevent that, I'd like to hear from folks

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-25 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Fri, 25 May 2012, Joshua Spodek joshuaspo...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for asking. I find it interesting to see everyone's different goals. I think my needs overlap with typical non-geek users wanting to avoid faceless corporations owning my private data. * Diaspora * Skype replacement *

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-24 Thread Rick C. Hodgin
Mesh network, dropbox. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin Original Message From: Nick M. Daly nick.m.d...@gmail.com Sent: Thu, May 24, 2012 06:45 PM To: freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org CC: Subject: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for? So

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] What Do You want to use the FreedomBox for?

2012-05-24 Thread Stephen Michael Kellat
On 05/24/2012 06:45 PM, Nick M. Daly wrote: So, I always worry that we (as a list and project) might end up chasing ideals or hypotheticals (wouldn't it be cool if...) instead of actual, deliverable, software. To help prevent that, I'd like to hear from folks what you'd actually like to use the