[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Who is making the Batch file based installer for FreeDOS 1.2? I will be more than happy to answer any questions on V8Power Tools implementation, theory and advanced techniques for building the FreeDOS Installers User Interface.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
If it is alright,I will make the installer.I haven't made any PHYSICAL programs yet (besides making suggestions).So I will do it. On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Who is making the Batch file based installer for FreeDOS 1.2? > > I will be more

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
I don’t know if Jim had anyone specific in mind to write it. But, I don’t think he does. So, I say “give it a shot” Make sure you check out the EXAMPLES Batch files for V8Power Tools. They cover may advanced V8PT usages, vchoice selections and polling, drive scanning and etc. The latest

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Maybe, I should just write it. > On Sep 7, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > > I just checked Jim’s FreeDOS blog posts. They currently only go back a little > over 2 years. But, other than Jim’s desires for the batch based installer and > information about my

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Mateusz Viste
I'm not 100% sure anymore, but I vaguely recall "Mercury Thirteen" saying he's working on v1.2 (there was also an announcement on the FD website at some point about that). Mateusz On 07/09/2015 13:51, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Who is making the Batch file based installer for FreeDOS 1.2?

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
I just checked Jim’s FreeDOS blog posts. They currently only go back a little over 2 years. But, other than Jim’s desires for the batch based installer and information about my V8PT utilities, I don’t see that anyone was creating an installer. > On Sep 7, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Mateusz Viste

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Mateusz Viste
That's what I saw at some point on the freedos website: http://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/news/2014/12/working-towards-freedos-12/ > Maybe, I should just write it. That would probably be the most efficient solution, yes. :) Note, that I already put together a whole bootable CD (all_cd.iso) with

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Mercury Thirteen
I compiled the packages and verified the .lsm files and structured them into a zip. Jim himself said there is an installer he's working on, which is what's I've been waiting on. Since Jim doesn't seem to have much free time (like many of us) I would say go for it. On 9/7/2015 12:56 PM, Mateusz

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

2015-09-07 Thread Mercury Thirteen
On 9/7/2015 6:37 PM, Michael Brutman wrote: ... I think that whether it is open source or not it is still a great solution for DOS networking. If the lack of source code prevents you from using mTCP I regret that and I encourage you to question your assumption that without source code it

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

2015-09-07 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
Hello all, I just picked a random email, but thanks for all the answers. :p Op 7 sep. 2015 22:37 schreef "Barry de Graaff" : > > > Why is it important to have it open source? > > Because: > > 1. I do read the source, and also compare between versions the changes so I can

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

2015-09-07 Thread Michael Brutman
Hi, Please don't panic. There are better things to worry about. Just to clarify: - The source for the 2013-05-23 version is available and always will be. That particular release was probably near perfect because very few people ever ask for more features or send bug reports. - The source for

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

2015-09-07 Thread Louis Santillan
Sadly, it would mean that specific version of mTCP could not be included in FD. On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > > > On 9/7/2015 6:37 PM, Michael Brutman wrote: > > ... > I think that whether it is open source or not it is still a great solution

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

2015-09-07 Thread Mercury Thirteen
No, I understand that. I mean nothing would prevent a user from manually utilizing it in the future if they deem it necessary. On 9/7/2015 11:33 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: > Sadly, it would mean that specific version of mTCP could not be included in > FD. > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 8:31 PM,

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

2015-09-07 Thread Barry de Graaff
Hello Mike, Thanks for your clarification, it makes things clear for me, and I imagine it will also be read by a lot of people browsing thru the mail archive. It's great to hear you also work towards ipv6! I was meaning to ask you about that for some time. For those not knowing mTCP is more

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

2015-09-07 Thread Ralf Quint
On 9/7/2015 1:36 PM, Barry de Graaff wrote: > Why is it important to have it open source? Because: 1. I do read the source, and also compare between versions the changes so I can decide if I need/want the new changes. 2. I actually change software from time to time and also merge my changes

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

2015-09-07 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
I've never been able to get a working DOS network.I can't even get my FreeDOS laptop to 'talk' to my windows desktop. On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 9/7/2015 1:36 PM, Barry de Graaff wrote: > > > Why is it important to have it open source? > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

2015-09-07 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
After playing around with a making prototype installer this is a more or less first part. It is extremely slow running from a floppy (even in vmware). It might be a good idea for whoever makes the installer to first copy stuff to a ram drive or enable disk caching or something to boost

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

2015-09-07 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Mon, 7 Sep 2015, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: Hi, My question here is why do you want that. I don't want to be irritating (which I probably am now). Why is it important to have it open source? It's FreeDOS, after all. Can't include stuff that isn't Free®™© ;) However, it's my personal

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

2015-09-07 Thread Barry de Graaff
> Why is it important to have it open source?Because:1. I do read the source, > and also compare between versions the changes so I can decide if I need/want > the new changes.2. I actually change software from time to time and also > merge my changes upstream3. I prefer free-software out of

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

2015-09-07 Thread Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
Hello, Maarten! Em Mon, 7 Sep 2015 20:40:56 +0200 Maarten Vermeulen escreveu: > Why is it important to have it open source? Please, see "Why we must insist on Free Software"[0] and "Why 'Open Source' misses the point of Free Software"[1]. Just my 2 cents. Footnotes:

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

2015-09-07 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Maarten, Barry, Bruno and of course Michael, > Why is it important to have it open source? While I have not read this code either, nor contributed to it, I generally appreciate a possibility to read it. In that sense, it is a pity that code currently is not open. I am sure there would be