> FreeCom allows this command: "COPY CON"
confirm
> After that I can write text which echoes after enter in next line and
> it can't be interrupted nor with CTRL-Z
worx for me ... can be interrupted with CTL-Z
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> I created a sourceforge project for HIMEMX, here:
Thanks :-)
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Now the second point is if I remember the stuff correctly the
problem with DOS task switching is having the CPU start again in the
right place when a session was switched back into the DOS space
The primary problem with multitasking is that you must care about clean
rock-solid sharing of ALL
http://mymfe.microsoft.com/Windows%207/Feedback.aspx?formID=195
You must have scripting enabled to submit your feedback.
Learn how to enable scripting on your computer.
Good :-)
this is the windows 7 feedback form.
you can ask microsoft to bring back command.com
and 16-bit dos support to
Maybe a step by step instruction of how to program a GUI
0. Learn to set graphic mode
1. Learn to draw (lines, rectangles, rat arrow, text)
2. Learn to move the rat arrow (in a circle for example)
3. Learn to peek the mouse and use it to hunt the arrow around
4. Learn to define structures
I wonder if with freedos, there is a tool or other for run a program compiled
with PDS7.1(QuickBasic)16Bit in 32bit ? just to have access
to 4GB of memory...
Use FreeBASIC + HDPMI32 :-)
(Quack-Basic CANNOT brew 32-bit binaries ... you might find some XMS
library at best)
Hi all. I can be add the comment highlighting for the lines starts at
#, ', //, /* end at */, and so from { to }. It's a good?
Comments are language-specific. So either allow to select language
(+ possible auto-detect by file extension or content), or to manually
set comment syntax.
Check out
COOL !!! (no other feedback ???) I'll test :-)
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wengier's super ms-dog 7.10 boot disk(ette)
super-piracy :-(
it's an example of a complete working solution.
Next time please include TFM and license.
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I agree, and I wrote about similar ideas a while back in consideration of
what we might want in 2.0
http://sourceforge.net/userapps/wordpress/jhall1/2009/04/
I like the ideas of USB driver and a __GOOD__ GUI (no Linux).
Anyway, this thread degenerated ... stared with DOS drivers and ended
http://www.freedos.org/software/?cat=base
The list pretends many things (HIMEMX, FREECOM, DISKCOPY, ...)
to have been updated recently 2011, but this is not true.
Also the directory timestamps at ibibio are bad / misleading, but
surprisingly not for DISKCOPY. IIRC I had already complained
about
Nonsense. DOS is officially dead before that, so it if far more
relevant than you try to make it look...
There are even virii inside :-)
I want to determine the size of a file. How to search for
this topic in the huge RBIL ?
I want to do file I/O from a TSR. What does RBIL tell me
Get real Bubba
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You'd likely __start__ with RBIL (Ralph Brown's Interrupt List) and
I would NOT do this ... it's obsolete (last update IIRC 1998) and
it's very hard to find the still useful stuff inside (but there is some).
languages like Assembly (NASM, TASM, WAS
FASM
People still use scanners? I thought they used their
photocamera, then even the BIOS often/__rarely__ supports your
SD cardreader in DOS without any drivers...
Any scanners can save to memory cards or USB sticks? Then bad drivers
could f*** o** ;-)
And for device drivers is DOSEMU better for that purpose?
I doubt that. Rather BOCHS, if it emulates the device you are
interested in (PCI bridge in BOCHS is a dream so far) ...
debugging drivers is always hard :-(
No idea. I know Japheth added some config.sys version
to the DEBUG 1.25
It's possible make a stubbing for use WIN drivers under
freedos (maybe with HX EXTENDER?)
Theoretically possible, but extremely difficult.
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Kernel AFAIK compiles with OW 1.9 + NASM (what versions ???).
Tools are OW or BC or NASM or JAWASM.
(BTW: is this documented somewhere ... easy to find and up-to-date ? Wiki ?)
For new code you can use any compiler, though:
Why should we have to tell DOS users that only a certain and
small subset of all virtual environments can do FreeDOS?
Alternatively, tell them to install it on a PC ;-)
Using as many different emulators/virtualisers as possible among
developers/testers might show issues earlier
Would
BTW, I had IIRC seen a GUI FreeDOS installer back in 2005 ? 2004
in 0.9 ? 0.8 distros. NO, I don't recommend those distros ...
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Interesting ... but lacks details. AFAIK DOS has no
good multitasking design so you can't do reliably file
I/O (even more writes) from a TSR.
- file not closed after update ?
- file updated using lower level sector access ?
- updating of the file fails while your FTP server is runnig (check
after
When I select Use FreeDOS as LiveCD system.. and have a Flash disk
inserted, the El-Torito Bootable CD-Rom driver results in the error:
JemmEX: exception 0D occured.
That is the good old general protection fault (GPF)
:-D
that you also know from Windows.
VMM32.VXD brewed a GPF :-D
I did a test of this CD too. First I would suggest to make an El-Torito hard
disk instead of using ISOLinux. DOS I feel should boot directly and not by
booting a version of Linux first.
+ 1
Definitely. I'd prefer to see no Linux and no ReactOR is
FreeDOS distros. BTW, the ReactOR on the
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/kernel/history.txt
COOL :-)
Eric wrote:
Thank you, that is more search engine friendly than having to browse
the www CVS/SVN page on sourceforge. However, you still need to use
a search engine to find the history.txt, maybe we
Test of 1.1test3 CD :
http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/fd11t3.png
Issues:
[-3.] many messages running over the screen but too fast to read
[-2.] not prominently documented what's going to be installed (for
example FreeDOS distro 1.1test3 2011-07-10 with kernel 2040
2011-06-26
OK, obsolete WDE is on the CD in FREEDOS\3RDPARTY ...
The CD has a strange and obsolete kernel:
- NOT UPX'ed
- 2040 from May-25
The floppy DOES have kernel 2040 ... but I really would kick anything
except 2040 and maybe 2038 and maybe 2036 (as from 1.0 distro).
No need for 2039 or even
As for UPX terms, I could try LZMA and Ultra Brute settings indeed, but
wonder what effect (decompression possible at all? loading times? memory
uses? does resulting binary work?) they have on ancient machines.
2011-07-11 Michael B. Brutman mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote:
I tested UPX on one of
PS: I really prefer binaries NON-UPX'ed
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Will be removed then.
WDE is cool, but version 0.30 please :-)
Internet-based installation of FD1.1 possible through
packet driver, DHCP program and HTGET/FTP (not WGET, size
constraints). VMware-specific so
I hope it will work on real PC too :-)
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Who gives a shit? It's included in MS-DOS 6.22, it'll be included in
FreeDOS. It's not hurting you is it? You don't suffer from erectile
disfunction because you
?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erectile_dysfunction - because you can't
write
BTW, what's the goal of EDLIN ??? Never used it ...
But please keep DEBUG, I'm using it (but not as ASS'embler, maybe add
FASM also ?)
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http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/fbmd5.zip
Okay, it's there now, but I promise (!) it wasn't there the last time
The file hasn't changed during last 3 years ;-)
1.1-test is out:
http://www.freedos.org/
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1-test
in fact the SVN kernel was fixed 10 days ago (I saw the bug somewhere
else) but the binary at http://dosemu.org/bart/kernel.sys
was not. I uploaded a new binary now
Result: http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/fdkernsh.png
NOT fixed:
* minor can't-save-after-FSINFO-invalidation-BUG
0. Get
Kernel mirrored here: http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/kernel.sys
Silly stuff: http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/freedos7.png
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Despite what DOS386 implies, I'm not convinced it's totally stable yet.
Do you test and report bugs ?
At least, it used to be fairly buggy.
YES, but this was 2007 ;-)
OpenWatcom
and 0.98.39 ??? - BTW, XXX-64 support is useless for DOS)
JAWASM (free OS, not GPL)
WATTCOM (anyone dares to reduce the bloat before adding ???)
DOS Extenders:
DOS32A
D3X http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/d3x.zip
WDOSX http://jafile.com/uploads/dos386/wdosx.zi7
HX (2.14 2008-03 ??? 2.16 2009-11
Anyone having the super editing power needed can please update this one:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Unstable_Kernel_Branch
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to your executable stub after EXE2COFFing it, you still need to include
cwsdpmi.exe (the DPMI server) for it to properly execute everywhere.
Strange. Where did you find this information ?
With CWSD-stub, WDOSX-stub,
Hi
www.freedos.org/freedos/links/ does not link to
DJGPP either, so __we__ really __have__ a documentation
__problem__ with DPMI on freedos.org, unfortunately.
More problems:
DGJPP ZIP PACKER: http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/zip-picker.html
pressures me to get Windaube 2000/XP :-(
Even
XP - no dice to my knowledge. no 7303h support, only 36h support
see above / 5 days ago:
alas, I tried my disk free space program, and I got nonsense results from
windows xp...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa364937(VS.85).aspx (!!! WtF !!!)
winmerge is a windows program
I just did.
What ?
http://JesusnJim.com/code/dos/fdos/fdoem-emulator.7z
2 GiB of bloat ???
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa364937(VS.85).aspx (!!! WtF !!!)
am going to have to have somebody else test it who has a proper OS
Install it yourself ;-)
my spare box has linux on it. I
RBIL is pretty much it (right?
http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/doc/rbinter/id/40/32.htm
NO, see above.
I am hoping to implement some sort of fallback mechanism into the program
so that if int 21h, 7303h fails, I have int 21h, 36h to fall back on
but I need to know exactly how to detect failure
In some countries, at least France, it is illegal to force people
to buy 2 things when they only want one.
COOL :-)
So you can acheter a PC without Windaube en France?
Is it cheaper (preferably by plus que 1 Euro) than a PC with Windaube?
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for the DOS folk, this is maybe a wake-up call to start implementing
additional partitioning schemes? (by the way, the last version of fdisk I
used
is broken, it started creating empty partitions)
Which version is this?
Painful but works for me in very limited tests (version from cca
Thanks, but real developers use a magnet
To manipulate raw bits on their disks
Magnetic disks are obsolete. What now ???
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the
project. I'm looking at the Open Watcom compiler and would like your opinion
OK, see below ...
I'd like to see gcc for all 32- and 64-bit development
What's the design goal ???
it really needs to
be
has asked for feedback FOR HIS DOS TOOLS ONLY,
and you should respect this.
Right, but then they should be easier to find ;-)
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Looks slightly better but the argument is still false - the ability
to develop for DOS depends from whether you HAVE DOS (instead or at
least besides Windaube), not whether the Windaube is 32-bit or 64-bit
or
am wondering if I should continue doing DOS development
http://jesusnjim.com/polls/continue-dos-development.html
poll - continue DOS development?
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected
T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING in
/home/jesusnji/public_html/polls/continue-dos-development/poll.php on line 25
Hi, I am a hobby programmer and I am interested in submitting small
utilites that I have written for DOS to the FreeDOS project
What is it ? What language ?
YES this is the correct place to boast :-)
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I have a problem. the only OS microsoft offers now is windows 7.
Private problem of Macro$oft :-D
Use DBAN to delete it and install FreeDOS then ;-)
machines from HP only have drivers for windows 7
Many devices are sufficiently generic (USB, IDE/SATA, ICH/HDA sound,
Graph usually has some
Where are all the updated files?
No clue myself ... http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/
But it is the latest available for download!
True ...
I thought that maybe I could help to demonstrate
what DOS can do. At the moment, the system as installed from the
full CD
(Odd, in my day, DOS apps generally didn't have dependencies!)
Examples ??? AFAIK the only one is CWSDPMI (blame DGJPP, not FreeDOS ...)
[1] I suggest removing the different memory configs as they will confuse
novices
Agree, tuning EMS/UBM and legacy crap depending on such should be
No version message, no free-memory display, no Welcome, thanks for
trying FreeDOS! message, nothing. Blank screen, C prompt. That is
about as friendly as a kick in the nuts.
Agree, there is space for improvements.
When I ran GEM, there were no links to any of this 150MB of programs.
Bad :-(
See mail archive few lines below or sf.net/projects/freedos
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Just wanted to ask if this was the right place to report or discuss
Welcome :-)
comments, suggestions, bug reports c in FreeDOS 1.0? I've just
The 1.0 distro is obsolete.
many things got fixed: HIMEM/EMM, DEVLOAD, ...
some partially: kernel (2038), EDIT (yeah), FDISK (patch pending),
Electronic products like laptops, gps,TV LCD,cell phones,ps3,MP3/4
Also MP5 ? FYI, I deprecate MP3/4 :-D
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For those wanting to produce LZMA-encoded archives there is now version 907
For me it had been working since 4.20 cca all the time ;-)
apparently it is as simple as 7z a ..\something.lzma
You just need a DOS port (got one ???) or HX DOS Extender;-)
BTW, we got disk image support:
What is everyone else using to develop/debug their DOS apps here?
FASM IDE (compiler hard merged in, cca 100 KiB total bloat), INFOPAD
(some bugs, doesn't like HDPMI32), FreeDOS EDIT (some bugs, 64 KiB
limit), Kinesics (needs HX, not feature rich).
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but then virtual-86 mode is set and I can no loger use 32bit real-mode
pointers!
IF you need PM from V86 there is VCPI.
Protected mode isn't the same as flat real mode.
NO, but there is no absolute need to use flat [un]real mode.
flat-real mode, VCPI and DPMI work and how they deal
What version of WATCOM is the most recommended one ?
Almost 1 year elapsed since 1.8 release, there were some complaints by
Japheth about JWASM doesn't compile with 1.8 anymore in the past,
but latest releases report to compile fine with both 1.7a and 1.8,
although nothing has been fixed in
I'm building a driver (for DOS)
:-) For what hardware ??
means that the driver will have to do different things to get to the tables
depending
on whether HIMEM, or EMM386, or both, or none of them are currently there.
NO. Just use XMS, it is still available even if EMM386 is additionally
I wrote:
Oops, the IUP-BUG needs retest.
DONE !!!
Tom wrote ( http://www.drdosprojects.de/forum/drp_forum/posts/6667.html ) :
IUP bug reproduced here. will try to fix this
Lack of time or forgotten ... :-(
If reproducable, I'll try to fix those, too (if time allows)
At least 2 are fixed
I possibly know what the problem is (re-confirmed with FD 2038 and EDR
2009-03-28) :
**
UI21DEB 2009-05-02 CFG: sel= hcb=$0400 ver=$3205 dcm=$02FB fif=$
APP: ree=0 psp=$0528 nam=FREECOM N/A
* AX=$4800 | C=0 AX=$16A4
*
You're saying development of free DOS software is not on
topic in the FreeDOS devel list?
Sorry, not __MY__ list, by I personally prefer this tiny piece of NASM
code from the bloated WtF/WfW 100% compatibility crap :-)
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If you set VERSION to something different than 5.xx
so 5 is the default ?
in config sys then FreeDOS will behave in the more common DOS 3/4/6/7 style
Is this documented somewhere ??? Still, FreeDOS IMHO should default
harder to FDCONFIG, FREECOM etc. ;-)
Please explain.
What didn't you
and leaves both (!!!) files present in the directory and empty ...
Which both do you mean? It deletes the original,
so only the temp file still exists?
YES, but the following rename call apparently recreates the original name,
but without deleting the temp name, and both are now empty :-(
I
91 Bytes instead of IUP: IUP-BUG is no longer owned by IUP:
http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=10301 :-)
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WOW ... it's new ;-) but I have a safer method anyway.
see what else needs attention?
- The CTMOUSE tracker, see above
- http://sf.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2475007group_id=5109atid=105109
2475007 Debug generates unoptimized code -
Nice :-) Although memory subsystem source code is not yet a fully
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It took very long time but FreeDOS got 2 bugs Closed: FIXED now:
sf.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2380828group_id=5109atid=105109
[kernel] GetDiskFreeSpaceEx bug if no slash
sf.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2362450group_id=5109atid=105109
#1953 21/29 returns 0 (valid) for all drive root
I lack the
New cards are heavily appreciated of course, however, the
ES1371/1373 support as of 2009-05-28 doesn't really work,
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