Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-09-10 Thread Jim Hall
Resurrecting this bit of discussion from June, as I get caught up on list matters. :-) > On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > >> I'm still reviewing the packages to ensure they're all open source >> compliant. >> >> What are we considering acceptable in this regard? Are we going only

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-25 Thread Thomas Mueller
I too would like to be able to install FreeDOS from a USB stick or from iso image that could be booted from Syslinux, Grub4DOS or GRUB2. I would likely install FreeDOS to USB stick. I don't know yet how FreeDOS 1.2 will boot; Syslinux has the advantage of being usable to boot other

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-25 Thread Mercury Thirteen
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Thomas Mueller mueler6...@twc.com wrote: ... Is WATT-32 not included in the upcoming FreeDOS 1.2? Or is some part of WATT-32 (watt-32.net) not open-source? ... Wow, I forgot all about WATT-32. Actually, since it was the official FreeDOS.org software list

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-25 Thread Mercury Thirteen
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: ... * CuteMouse needs fixing to avoid closed-source COM2EXE (already done locally, but no response from maintainer) * Jemm386 needs to remove JLOAD and similar closed-source pieces (no maintainer) * UIDE and XMGR from 2011?

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-25 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Since it's not directly executable and the rest of the platform is 16-bit, I suppose there's no need for it to be included as well. -- Monitor 25 network devices or servers for free with OpManager! OpManager is web-based

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-24 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 24, 2015 1:27 PM, Mercury Thirteen mercury0x0...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I had found that but I was looking specifically for code to version 2.09c. I suppose this may do, though, thank you. It's the exact same

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-24 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Mercury Thirteen mercury0x0...@gmail.com wrote: Attached is the list of everything in the new distro. [list.txt , 4 kb] Just a quick look (at your list only, not the actual .ZIP) with a few quick comments: * CuteMouse needs fixing to avoid closed-source

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-24 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Okay, that's the way I will proceed. Also, I am removing Necromancer's DOS Navigator due to being closed-source. -- Monitor 25 network devices or servers for free with OpManager! OpManager is web-based network management

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-24 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Mercury Thirteen mercury0x0...@gmail.com wrote: Also, also (lol) I am not finding any source for SRDisk. FreeDOS.org lists it as GPL, its own documentation lists it as copyrighted. Perhaps the initial version was GPL and it later forked over to an

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-24 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Yes, I had found that but I was looking specifically for code to version 2.09c. I suppose this may do, though, thank you. On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Mercury Thirteen mercury0x0...@gmail.com wrote: Also, also

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-24 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Also, also (lol) I am not finding any source for SRDisk. FreeDOS.org lists it as GPL, its own documentation lists it as copyrighted. Perhaps the initial version was GPL and it later forked over to an author-copyrighted license? Not sure, but I'm inclined to remove it altogether. Any

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-24 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/24/2015 11:07 AM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: Also, also (lol) I am not finding any source for SRDisk. FreeDOS.org lists it as GPL, its own documentation lists it as copyrighted. Perhaps the initial version was GPL and it later forked over to an author-copyrighted license? Not sure, but

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-24 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Ah, ok. Maybe I was expecting to see copyleft lol On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Ralf Quint freedos...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/24/2015 11:07 AM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: Also, also (lol) I am not finding any source for SRDisk. FreeDOS.org lists it as GPL, its own documentation lists it as

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-24 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
Should we make FreeDOS able to install from a usb?It seems hardwired to install from the CD.Perhaps this should be an added update to the 1.2 CD. On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Ralf Quint freedos...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/24/2015 11:07 AM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: Also, also (lol) I am not

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-24 Thread Mercury Thirteen
That would be up to Jim to include in his installer. Sounds like a good feature to have if possible. On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:48 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Should we make FreeDOS able to install from a usb?It seems hardwired to install from the CD.Perhaps this

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-24 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
Yeah.It does. On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Mercury Thirteen mercury0x0...@gmail.com wrote: That would be up to Jim to include in his installer. Sounds like a good feature to have if possible. On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:48 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Should

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-24 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Attached is the list of everything in the new distro. Package NameVersion [Base] Append 5.0-0.6 Apropos (Part of FastHelp suite)1.1 Assign

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-23 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Mercury Thirteen mercury0x0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still reviewing the packages to ensure they're all open source compliant. What are we considering acceptable in this regard? Are we going only with software which has been made available under one of

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-23 Thread Mercury Thirteen
I'm still reviewing the packages to ensure they're all open source compliant. What are we considering acceptable in this regard? Are we going only with software which has been made available under one of the GNU licenses exclusively? Obviously programs which are free but have no source available

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-23 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Mercury Thirteen wrote: I'm still reviewing the packages to ensure they're all open source compliant. What are we considering acceptable in this regard? Are we going only with software which has been made available under one of the GNU licenses exclusively? Obviously

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-23 Thread Mercury Thirteen
I would tend to agree; GPL / public domain / source-code-free-and-available-at-no-cost options are all viable in my mind, but I want to 1) make sure I perform this task to the standards of the project's leader and the community to which I have volunteered and 2) avoid a potential user out there

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-23 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Mercury Thirteen wrote: I guess I didn't scroll up enough to read your reply! Sorry about that, and thanks for the input. :) So, you're saying we should only use 100% GPL software, yes? I can easily go through and pull the affected packages; I really don't think there

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-23 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Yes, they should be. I think they are all mostly the same as the GPL, but I'm not certain. For the time being, I'll just remove the closed source packages and leave all the public domain and source-freely-available programs. If there's an issue, I can always pull more stuff out later on. On Tue,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-23 Thread Mercury Thirteen
I guess I didn't scroll up enough to read your reply! Sorry about that, and thanks for the input. :) So, you're saying we should only use 100% GPL software, yes? I can easily go through and pull the affected packages; I really don't think there are that many remaining, so going with GPL-only

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-23 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Mercury Thirteen: Yes, they should be. I think they are all mostly the same as the GPL, but I'm not certain. For the time being, I'll just remove the closed source packages and leave all the public domain and source-freely-available programs. If there's an issue, I can always pull more

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-22 Thread sparky4
Hmm I am sorry for late reply!! I will check it out~ -- View this message in context: http://freedos.10956.n7.nabble.com/FreeDOS-1-2-package-compilation-tp22618p22903.html Sent from the FreeDOS - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-22 Thread sparky4
I personally think it is great! -- View this message in context: http://freedos.10956.n7.nabble.com/FreeDOS-1-2-package-compilation-tp22618p22904.html Sent from the FreeDOS - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-21 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
The installer.We should add a more...'friendly' interface to it.Mostof the installer is a bunch of keypresses and text on the screen after you select the packages to install.(I myself often forget which keys to press). On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Mercury Thirteen mercury0x0...@gmail.com

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-21 Thread Antony Gordon
Perhaps it should take a cue from the MSDOS installer - prepare the drive and copy over there core OS. Then at the end of the core install, prompt for the additional stuff On Sun, Jun 21, 2015, 12:47 PM JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: The installer.We should add a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-18 Thread Mercury Thirteen
That list doesn't contain version information; doing so will require more time. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Mercury Thirteen mercury0x0...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Mateusz Viste mate...@viste.fr wrote: On 18/06/2015 15:02, Mercury Thirteen wrote: No, it's not

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-18 Thread Mercury Thirteen
I'm already on it, that was just my quick in-the-middle-of-work way of saying I'll have to post that later on. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi Mercury, That list doesn't contain version information; doing so will require more time. Please invest

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-18 Thread Mercury Thirteen
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Mateusz Viste mate...@viste.fr wrote: On 18/06/2015 15:02, Mercury Thirteen wrote: No, it's not all that different, just fleshed out and more complete. What do you mean by 'fleshed out'? And more complete how? Fleshed out and more complete in that I went

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-18 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Mercury, That list doesn't contain version information; doing so will require more time. Please invest that time: Having version information will make it easier to know if you have the newest version for both installing packages and for updating the collection. Regards, Eric Fleshed out

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-18 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 18/06/2015 15:02, Mercury Thirteen wrote: No, it's not all that different, just fleshed out and more complete. What do you mean by 'fleshed out'? And more complete how? Could you please provide some list of packages+version from your distro, so I could compare with what's in FDNPKG? If

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-18 Thread Mercury Thirteen
I'm removing the Pegasus mail app due to it being closed source. -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-03 Thread Mercury Thirteen
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Ralf Quint freedos...@gmail.com wrote: Input? Well, do you really think that people download 281MB ZIP file, one that also alerts most anti-virus software due to some of it's contents, without knowing what this is about? How's that for input? Ralf That

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-03 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/2/2015 7:39 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: I'm not of this effort, but, Ralf, what are you using to scan for viruses? Got the alert from Avast here on my Windows 8.1 laptop, got the same warning for AVG and Norton on two customer PCs. Ended up downloading it with AV disabled in a sandbox.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-02 Thread Ralf Quint
On 6/2/2015 5:09 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: Everyone take a look at this ZIP http://mercurycoding.com/FreeDOS/FreeDOS-1.2.zip and let me know your feedback. Anything which shouldn't be included? Anything which should but wasn't? There's a few non-open source programs I didn't catch for

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-02 Thread Mercury Thirteen
Everyone take a look at this ZIP http://mercurycoding.com/FreeDOS/FreeDOS-1.2.zip and let me know your feedback. Anything which shouldn't be included? Anything which should but wasn't? There's a few non-open source programs I didn't catch for removal. Let me know your input.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-02 Thread Louis Santillan
* I don't know if the permissions were set by you or the original zip files, but they're messed up in several place, at least with respect to *nix. Some are set to 555. Not sure why execute bit is even set anywhere at all. * It's large (1.1GB decompressed). * Lots of files/folders are not in 8.3

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-02 Thread Louis Santillan
I'm not of this effort, but, Ralf, what are you using to scan for viruses? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Ralf Quint freedos...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/2/2015 5:09 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: Everyone take a look at this ZIP http://mercurycoding.com/FreeDOS/FreeDOS-1.2.zip and let me know

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

2015-06-02 Thread Antony Gordon
What I think would be useful would be an Xcode/Visual Studio type of environment that includes all of the recommended build tools setup with a batch file to set paths to have the tools work from any location on the hard drive. This can be used to rebuild the OS or to develop new applications