Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-17 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011, Ralf A. Quint wrote: At 06:20 PM 9/16/2011, Rugxulo wrote: DOS to most people means MS-DOS, which is indeed long dead. So is any other DOS. In a technical sense at least. DR-DOS is dead, PC-DOS is dead, PT-DOS is apparently dead as well... And FreeDOS original goal was

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-16 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 06:20 PM 9/16/2011, Rugxulo wrote: I think that Matthias mentioned long time ago that some updates would/could be forthcoming, but he has refrained from actively participating here probably as long as I have, probably for similar reasons... Dunno. He hasn't been active in a long time,

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 06:20 PM 9/16/2011, Rugxulo wrote: I guess it would be more crucial if there was a portable (a la POSIX) standard for DOS.   ;-)) Considering all the variants out there, it's not the worst idea in the world (IMHO)!

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-11 Thread dos386
Nonsense. DOS is officially dead before that, so it if far more relevant than you try to make it look... There are even virii inside :-) I want to determine the size of a file. How to search for this topic in the huge RBIL ? I want to do file I/O from a TSR. What does RBIL tell me

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-11 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 11:22 PM 9/10/2011, dos386 wrote: Nonsense. DOS is officially dead before that, so it if far more relevant than you try to make it look... There are even virii inside :-) ... Yeah, messes even with your DNS :-} I want to determine the size of a file. How to search for this topic in the

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-11 Thread dos386
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Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-10 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 10-9-2011 2:57, Decheng Fan schreef: Hi Bernd, Nice to see your e-mail. I think there is still a long way for me to go, since I remember seeing a book about MS-DOS 6.00 published in China, which was about 400 pages. I will pick up topics that are interesting to me along the way of the

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-10 Thread dos386
You'd likely __start__ with RBIL (Ralph Brown's Interrupt List) and I would NOT do this ... it's obsolete (last update IIRC 1998) and it's very hard to find the still useful stuff inside (but there is some). languages like Assembly (NASM, TASM, WAS FASM

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-10 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 10:35 PM 9/10/2011, dos386 wrote: You'd likely __start__ with RBIL (Ralph Brown's Interrupt List) and I would NOT do this ... it's obsolete (last update IIRC 1998) and it's very hard to find the still useful stuff inside (but there is some). Nonsense. DOS is officially dead before that, so

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-09 Thread Decheng Fan
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Op 4-9-2011 13:06, Decheng Fan schreef: I've also compiled FreeCOM, but there seems to be some warning messages, although I still get the final COMMAND.COM http://command.com/ file. The warning messages read like

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-08 Thread Decheng Fan
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:18 PM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote: And for device drivers is DOSEMU better for that purpose? I doubt that. Rather BOCHS, if it emulates the device you are interested in (PCI bridge in BOCHS is a dream so far) ... debugging drivers is always hard :-( No idea. I

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-04 Thread Decheng Fan
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi Robbie / Decheng, don't know what's the standard (or recommended) development environment to develop applications in FreeDOS. Would you please let me know? That depends on what sorts of applications you want to

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-04 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 4-9-2011 13:06, Decheng Fan schreef: I've also compiled FreeCOM, but there seems to be some warning messages, although I still get the final COMMAND.COM http://command.com/ file. The warning messages read like following: C:\WATCOM\BINNT\wcc -zq kswap.c -bt=dos @watcomc.cfg kswap.c(160):

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-09-04 Thread dos386
And for device drivers is DOSEMU better for that purpose? I doubt that. Rather BOCHS, if it emulates the device you are interested in (PCI bridge in BOCHS is a dream so far) ... debugging drivers is always hard :-( No idea. I know Japheth added some config.sys version to the DEBUG 1.25

[Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-08-21 Thread Decheng Fan
Hello everybody, I'm new to this mailing list, and I want to contribute to FreeDOS in some way a developer can do. Since I've used FreeDOS just as a replacement for MS-DOS, I know how to install it and how to run applications in it, but I don't know what's the standard (or recommended)

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-08-21 Thread dos386
Welcome :-) Kernel AFAIK compiles with OW 1.9 + NASM (what versions ???). Tools are OW or BC or NASM or JAWASM. (BTW: is this documented somewhere ... easy to find and up-to-date ? Wiki ?) For new code you can use any compiler, though:

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-08-21 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Robbie / Decheng, don't know what's the standard (or recommended) development environment to develop applications in FreeDOS. Would you please let me know? That depends on what sorts of applications you want to write. OpenWatcom is certainly a nice choice for C / C++, as ist NASM for

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-08-21 Thread Decheng Fan
Hi Eric, Thank you for so detailed explanation. I'll take time to read your e-mail. If I have new discoveries or new questions, I'll ping you again. Best regards, Robbie Fan On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi Robbie / Decheng, don't know what's the

Re: [Freedos-devel] If I want to compile applications in FreeDOS, which compiler should I use?

2011-08-21 Thread Decheng Fan
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 9:46 PM, dos386 dos...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome :-) Kernel AFAIK compiles with OW 1.9 + NASM (what versions ???). Tools are OW or BC or NASM or JAWASM. (BTW: is this documented somewhere ... easy to find and up-to-date ? Wiki ?) For new code you can use any