Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Book8088
That works.
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 12:12 PM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel <
freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> [resending without photo attached]
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 2:06 PM Jim Hall wrote:
> >
> > Very helpful. I thought it might be something like this. I'll update the
> bug with your info.
> >
> > Mind if I copy your photo into the bug report to show that it's working?
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024, 1:44 PM Louis Santillan
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a Book8088 v2. I did some testing. I imaged the FD13BOOT.IMG
> from FD 1.3 Floppy Edition[0] to my a slot on my Gotek formatted USB
> stick. I then used a Dell 316SX (a 386) with a Gotek FDD emulator & XT-IDE
> r625 to boot FD v1.3 over floppy. Next, I FDISK'd a 256MB CF card as FAT16
> (CHS 984/16/32). Rebooted again to floppy and then ran `format C:/q/s`. I
> then copied a few binaries from the FD floppy to the CF card. Rebooted to
> verify the 256MB CF card would boot and it worked.
> >>
> >> Finally, popped out the CF card of the 316SX and placed it in the slot
> on the Book8088. Booted & it worked. See the pic below for reference.
> >>
> >> No magic other than I've been working to restore the Dell 316SX so it
> now has a NIC with the XT-IDE r625 BIOS in it's ROM slot. The original
> 3.5" & 5.25" drives aren't spinning and I need to refurb those next.
> >>
> >> The user on SF could try imaging a small (<2GB) USB stick with
> FD13BOOT.IMG and try booting off that as well. It might take a reflash of
> the BIOS [1]. They'll need to hit 'A' quickly to redirect XT-IDE to boot
> off floppy instead of the CF. I might test that as well.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [0]
> https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.3/official/FD13-FloppyEdition.zip
> >> [1]
> https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/book-8088-discovery-and-modification-thread.1245155/post-1343495
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 8:23 AM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel <
> freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A user entered a bug that FreeDOS won't boot on the Book8088.
> >>> https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/bugs/391/
> >>>
> >>> > Hi. I got myself a Book8088 2.0 recently. It's a Chinese retro
> computer
> >>> > with a NEC V20 processor, 640 kb ram and a CF card as a storage. It
> uses
> >>> > Sergei Kiselev's BIOS_8088 with XTIDE extensions (which enable
> straight
> >>> > up boot from CF card(.
> >>> >
> >>> > I tried multiple versions of 16-bit FreeDOS kernels (2039-2043) on
> it,
> >>> > but they all get stuck at InitDisk function. It will actually print
> out
> >>> > the partition and detect CHS parameters but will get confused by it
> and
> >>> > try to "correct" it. That will cause it to get stuck.
> >>> >
> >>> > This little laptop came preinstalled with MS-DOS 6.22 and that works
> ok.
> >>> >
> >>> > Btw, It doesn't have an alternative IDE interface, so the CF card is
> >>> > only means of storage.
> >>> >
> >>> > Also, the error still appears even if CF card is formatted as either
> >>> > FAT16 or FAT32.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have one of these devices, or have more details about the
> >>> internals? I know about this only from what I've seen on Facebook:
> >>> it's a mini-laptop made from retro hardware with a CF card for
> >>> storage, but no floppy.
> >>>
> >>> The bug report indicates that FreeDOS is stopping at the InitDisk
> function.
> >>>
> >>> The user reports that the device uses a CF card in a CF-to-IDE adapter
> >>> to act as storage ("hard drive"). At my first guess, that's probably
> >>> the issue. I know others have had mixed results with CF-to-IDE,
> >>> usually because the CF-to-IDE isn't correctly emulating IDE or because
> >>> the BIOS doesn't recognize the CF-to-IDE correctly. (Seems like
> >>> neither is the case here, since the user reports the Book8088 came
> >>> with a working copy of pre-installed MS-DOS.)
> >>>
> >>> I think other issues folks have had with CF storage is that the CF
> >>> isn't set up right, so it has an incorrect partition table boundary,
> >>> or something like that.
> >>>
> >>> My first guess is to ask the user to try a different CF card than the
> >>> one they are using now, to see if it's an issue with the CF card
> >>> itself.
> >>>
> >>> Suggestions?
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Book8088
[resending without photo attached]
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 2:06 PM Jim Hall wrote:
>
> Very helpful. I thought it might be something like this. I'll update the bug
> with your info.
>
> Mind if I copy your photo into the bug report to show that it's working?
>
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2024, 1:44 PM Louis Santillan wrote:
>>
>> I have a Book8088 v2. I did some testing. I imaged the FD13BOOT.IMG from
>> FD 1.3 Floppy Edition[0] to my a slot on my Gotek formatted USB stick. I
>> then used a Dell 316SX (a 386) with a Gotek FDD emulator & XT-IDE r625 to
>> boot FD v1.3 over floppy. Next, I FDISK'd a 256MB CF card as FAT16 (CHS
>> 984/16/32). Rebooted again to floppy and then ran `format C:/q/s`. I then
>> copied a few binaries from the FD floppy to the CF card. Rebooted to verify
>> the 256MB CF card would boot and it worked.
>>
>> Finally, popped out the CF card of the 316SX and placed it in the slot on
>> the Book8088. Booted & it worked. See the pic below for reference.
>>
>> No magic other than I've been working to restore the Dell 316SX so it now
>> has a NIC with the XT-IDE r625 BIOS in it's ROM slot. The original 3.5" &
>> 5.25" drives aren't spinning and I need to refurb those next.
>>
>> The user on SF could try imaging a small (<2GB) USB stick with FD13BOOT.IMG
>> and try booting off that as well. It might take a reflash of the BIOS [1].
>> They'll need to hit 'A' quickly to redirect XT-IDE to boot off floppy
>> instead of the CF. I might test that as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [0]
>> https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.3/official/FD13-FloppyEdition.zip
>> [1]
>> https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/book-8088-discovery-and-modification-thread.1245155/post-1343495
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 8:23 AM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A user entered a bug that FreeDOS won't boot on the Book8088.
>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/bugs/391/
>>>
>>> > Hi. I got myself a Book8088 2.0 recently. It's a Chinese retro computer
>>> > with a NEC V20 processor, 640 kb ram and a CF card as a storage. It uses
>>> > Sergei Kiselev's BIOS_8088 with XTIDE extensions (which enable straight
>>> > up boot from CF card(.
>>> >
>>> > I tried multiple versions of 16-bit FreeDOS kernels (2039-2043) on it,
>>> > but they all get stuck at InitDisk function. It will actually print out
>>> > the partition and detect CHS parameters but will get confused by it and
>>> > try to "correct" it. That will cause it to get stuck.
>>> >
>>> > This little laptop came preinstalled with MS-DOS 6.22 and that works ok.
>>> >
>>> > Btw, It doesn't have an alternative IDE interface, so the CF card is
>>> > only means of storage.
>>> >
>>> > Also, the error still appears even if CF card is formatted as either
>>> > FAT16 or FAT32.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have one of these devices, or have more details about the
>>> internals? I know about this only from what I've seen on Facebook:
>>> it's a mini-laptop made from retro hardware with a CF card for
>>> storage, but no floppy.
>>>
>>> The bug report indicates that FreeDOS is stopping at the InitDisk function.
>>>
>>> The user reports that the device uses a CF card in a CF-to-IDE adapter
>>> to act as storage ("hard drive"). At my first guess, that's probably
>>> the issue. I know others have had mixed results with CF-to-IDE,
>>> usually because the CF-to-IDE isn't correctly emulating IDE or because
>>> the BIOS doesn't recognize the CF-to-IDE correctly. (Seems like
>>> neither is the case here, since the user reports the Book8088 came
>>> with a working copy of pre-installed MS-DOS.)
>>>
>>> I think other issues folks have had with CF storage is that the CF
>>> isn't set up right, so it has an incorrect partition table boundary,
>>> or something like that.
>>>
>>> My first guess is to ask the user to try a different CF card than the
>>> one they are using now, to see if it's an issue with the CF card
>>> itself.
>>>
>>> Suggestions?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Book8088
Louis Santillan
11:44 AM (5 minutes ago)
to Technical, Jim
I have a Book8088 v2. I did some testing. I imaged the FD13BOOT.IMG from
FD 1.3 Floppy Edition[0] to my a slot on my Gotek formatted USB stick. I
then used a Dell 316SX (a 386) with a Gotek FDD emulator & XT-IDE r625 to
boot FD v1.3 over floppy. Next, I FDISK'd a 256MB CF card as FAT16 (CHS
984/16/32). Rebooted again to floppy and then ran `format C:/q/s`. I then
copied a few binaries from the FD floppy to the CF card. Rebooted to
verify the 256MB CF card would boot and it worked.
Finally, popped out the CF card of the 316SX and placed it in the slot on
the Book8088. Booted & it worked[1][2]. See the pic below for reference.
No magic other than I've been working to restore the Dell 316SX so it now
has a NIC with the XT-IDE r625 BIOS in it's ROM slot. The original 3.5" &
5.25" drives aren't spinning and I need to refurb those next.
The user on SF could try imaging a small (<2GB) USB stick with
FD13BOOT.IMG and try booting off that as well [3]. It might take a reflash
of the BIOS. They'll need to hit 'A' quickly to redirect XT-IDE to boot off
floppy instead of the CF. I might test that as well.
[0]
https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.3/official/FD13-FloppyEdition.zip
[1]
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vq2RvNgPNxrCOuVEFDruw4NwJYCh4Zvv/view?usp=drive_link
[2]
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NsKzz5WK4fw_wn-2WBnaH8sTsIyGs-ZN/view?usp=drive_link
[3]
https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/book-8088-discovery-and-modification-thread.1245155/post-1343495
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 8:23 AM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel <
freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> A user entered a bug that FreeDOS won't boot on the Book8088.
> https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/bugs/391/
>
> > Hi. I got myself a Book8088 2.0 recently. It's a Chinese retro computer
> > with a NEC V20 processor, 640 kb ram and a CF card as a storage. It uses
> > Sergei Kiselev's BIOS_8088 with XTIDE extensions (which enable straight
> > up boot from CF card(.
> >
> > I tried multiple versions of 16-bit FreeDOS kernels (2039-2043) on it,
> > but they all get stuck at InitDisk function. It will actually print out
> > the partition and detect CHS parameters but will get confused by it and
> > try to "correct" it. That will cause it to get stuck.
> >
> > This little laptop came preinstalled with MS-DOS 6.22 and that works ok.
> >
> > Btw, It doesn't have an alternative IDE interface, so the CF card is
> > only means of storage.
> >
> > Also, the error still appears even if CF card is formatted as either
> > FAT16 or FAT32.
>
> Does anyone have one of these devices, or have more details about the
> internals? I know about this only from what I've seen on Facebook:
> it's a mini-laptop made from retro hardware with a CF card for
> storage, but no floppy.
>
> The bug report indicates that FreeDOS is stopping at the InitDisk function.
>
> The user reports that the device uses a CF card in a CF-to-IDE adapter
> to act as storage ("hard drive"). At my first guess, that's probably
> the issue. I know others have had mixed results with CF-to-IDE,
> usually because the CF-to-IDE isn't correctly emulating IDE or because
> the BIOS doesn't recognize the CF-to-IDE correctly. (Seems like
> neither is the case here, since the user reports the Book8088 came
> with a working copy of pre-installed MS-DOS.)
>
> I think other issues folks have had with CF storage is that the CF
> isn't set up right, so it has an incorrect partition table boundary,
> or something like that.
>
> My first guess is to ask the user to try a different CF card than the
> one they are using now, to see if it's an issue with the CF card
> itself.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
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