Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread John R. Sowden
Excuse me for butting in ... but, I understand the the FreeDOS package should be pure open source with no caveats. I also see that there are many programs out there that are 'available for use by the general public', but have varying license tweaks that make them not pure open source. Some

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, Dennis, I almost hate to bring this type of stuff up. It's almost flamebait because nobody can agree. So it's a waste of time. Nevertheless On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 3:58 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 - Preview 17

2016-05-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: >> On May 15, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >>> On May 11, 2016, at 11:11 PM, perditi...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Kernel update is forthcoming. >>> I still need to run some tests and make

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > > I can't imagine anyone taking stuff from a FreeDOS 1.2 release and > *wanting* to issue it as a commercial product. Rex released 4DOS as > open source because it was no longer selling. The world had moved on >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:34 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. > wrote: >> >> However, clause 3 for its license makes it NON-COMMERCIAL use only. >> >> (3) The Software, or any portion of it, may not

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 - Preview 17

2016-05-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > > On May 11, 2016, at 11:11 PM, perditi...@gmail.com wrote: > [..] > > Kernel update is forthcoming. > I still need to run some tests and make 386+ builds, but updated > packages will be available at >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> > I can't imagine anyone taking stuff from a FreeDOS 1.2 release and > *wanting* to issue it as a commercial product. Rex released 4DOS as > open source because it was no longer selling. The world had moved on > from MSDOS and 16 bit, and so had he. > __ > Dennis It is not an

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > On May 15, 2016, at 1:17 AM, dmccunney wrote: > > [..] >>> 4DOS - Listed as Free, No Sources. Kept for now, may get Dropped? >> >> 4DOS sources, for the original 7.50 release, and the

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 - Preview 17

2016-05-15 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
:-) > On May 11, 2016, at 11:11 PM, perditi...@gmail.com wrote: > [..] > Kernel update is forthcoming. > I still need to run some tests and make 386+ builds, but updated > packages will be available at > http://www.fdos.org/kernel/release/LATEST/fdpkg/ >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 needs you

2016-05-15 Thread Dale E Sterner
Are you saying Linux over freedos. On Fri, 13 May 2016 17:27:37 -0500 Rugxulo writes: > Hi, > > On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Dale E Sterner > wrote: > > > > If Jack's drivers are left out of version 1.2 ; is there > > something to replace them. > >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello, > >Just as a general statement regarding “Dropped” packages. It doesn’t >mean > >they cannot be used or installed later. It also doesn’t mean they cannot be > provided on ibiblio. > > I am a bit confused by this, it seems to be an "end-around" solution; has > this been happening all

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Don Flowers
>Just as a general statement regarding “Dropped” packages. It doesn’t >mean >they cannot be used or installed later. It also doesn’t mean they cannot be provided on ibiblio. I am a bit confused by this, it seems to be an "end-around" solution; has this been happening all along? >PS: Why so many

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, > Mostly, I think your interpretation matches mine. However, when UIDE was > used FDINST would throw random errors. Why? IDK. It was suggested that > command line switches could be used to help correct the issue. However... It would not be the first driver which is not always

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Don Flowers
PS - I apologize for the mistypes, I am on my first cup of coffee :^) On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Don Flowers wrote: > > XCDROM - Removed. > UIDE is NOT 100% compatible to XCDROM, I just built a retro PIII Intel > SE440BX-2 (a very popular MB according to the VOGONS

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Don Flowers
> XCDROM - Removed. UIDE is NOT 100% compatible to XCDROM, I just built a retro PIII Intel SE440BX-2 (a very popular MB according to the VOGONS site) which for some reason only reads CDs/DVDs with the XCDROM driver no matter what drive I install. > Honestly, this kind of task belongs to the

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello Eric and all, 4DOS: I fixed the missing source issue. If Jim is fine with including a “Non-commercial use only” program it can stay. Otherwise, it will either have to be installed later or could be provided on unofficial FreeDOS releases. GCDROM: The GCDROM are incomplete they only

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On May 15, 2016, at 1:26 AM, Rugxulo wrote: > > I assume that your .ZIPs of CuteMouse > (ctmouse.zip) and Jemm386 (jemm.zip) come from here: > > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1/repos/base/ Yep, nearly all others are from ibiblio

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On May 15, 2016, at 1:17 AM, dmccunney wrote: >> [..] >> 4DOS - Listed as Free, No Sources. Kept for now, may get Dropped? > > 4DOS sources, for the original 7.50 release, and the later 8.0 release > by Luchezar Georgiev may be found here, along with 4DOS original >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On May 15, 2016, at 12:41 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > [..] > I don't know if DIALOG proposed for FreeDOS is the same as any of those > dialogs. I think it is the “DIALOG” package that shipped with FD1.1. > > Without DOSLFN, no support at all for long filenames?

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-15 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! In particular: Hi Rugxulo, hi Jim, hi Bret, hi Jerome ;-) >> CRYNWR - Unknown License, Dropped. > > Uh ... "most" of it should be (intentionally) GPL, but there are still > some pieces (e.g. RTSPKT.COM) that aren't. Would be good to have! >> MPXPLAY - Unknown License, Dropped. > >