Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

Hi, (I feel like I'm turning into Linus Torvalds. Apologies to him for the comparison.) On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > if umbpci and xmgr run more stable than jemm386, in particular > regarding umb range autodetection, then it is no surprise that >

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

On Sat, 4 Nov 2017, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: Isn't that exactly what JPSoftware did with 4DOS? And speaking of it, 4DOS isn't free - it is specifically restricted to FreeDOS, which makes it non-free. Which is basically nonsense because the person that released the software

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

> On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 20:09:48 +0100, userbeitrag wrote: >> I'm also thinking that FreeDOS should include a not-so-free and even a >> non-free section of software. The only limit should be restriction of >> redistribution. On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Mateusz Viste

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote: > > the wishes of the owners of the respective intellectual property have to be > > respected. On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 1:58 AM, Rugxulo wrote: > Just because a disgruntled developer is angry

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

On 11/4/2017 2:01 PM, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: > > Well, I don't remember the exact partitioning, but I think that 40 MB > for each DOS and the rest for Linux was what I could have done. And I > also repartitioned for a bigger FreeDOS, but then work came along. > > To take your car example:

Re: [Freedos-user] ZANSI.SYS

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 5:17 PM, wrote: > On 2017-11-04 20:50, dmccunney wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 3:32 PM, wrote: >>> >>> I tried to find ZANSI.SYS but found that it is nowerdays really hard to >>> get... Finally I found it there: >>>

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

512 meg? Luxury! My first hard drive was FIVE megabytes. A full height 5.25" MFM made by Tandon. I installed MS-DOS (3.1 IIRC) and all the software I had, mostly games. It was *half full*! Then I backed it up, onto 360K floppies. By the time I put the last disk on the stack, I was thinking

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

On 2017-11-04 21:47, Eric Auer wrote: Hi Rugxulo, if umbpci and xmgr run more stable than jemm386, in particular regarding umb range autodetection, then it is no surprise that Dimitris is happy about those :-) And you remember how long ago Japheth stopped maintenance and support for jemm386 and

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

On 2017-11-04 21:23, Ralf Quint wrote: On 11/4/2017 12:06 PM, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: I did install a couple of software too. What good is DOS without programs, right? But even deselecting the compilers and the GUI it didn't fit. I wanted to select only really relevant packages next, but

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

Hi Rugxulo, if umbpci and xmgr run more stable than jemm386, in particular regarding umb range autodetection, then it is no surprise that Dimitris is happy about those :-) And you remember how long ago Japheth stopped maintenance and support for jemm386 and how hard it is to improve memory

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

On 11/4/2017 12:06 PM, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: > > I did install a couple of software too. What good is DOS without > programs, right? But even deselecting the compilers and the GUI it > didn't fit. I wanted to select only really relevant packages next, but > work called and I had to stop

Re: [Freedos-user] ZANSI.SYS

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 3:32 PM, wrote: > > I tried to find ZANSI.SYS but found that it is nowerdays really hard to > get... Finally I found it there: > https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/net/user/tytso/msdos/screen/ Another source is here:

[Freedos-user] ZANSI.SYS

Hi! I tried to find ZANSI.SYS but found that it is nowerdays really hard to get... Finally I found it there: https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/net/user/tytso/msdos/screen/ So, ZANSI Version 1.2 is from Thomas Hanlin III, who used NANSI 2.2 from Daniel Kegel as a basis. The source code is included.

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 20:09:48 +0100, userbeitrag wrote: > I'm also thinking that FreeDOS should include a not-so-free and even a > non-free section of software. The only limit should be restriction of > redistribution. I'm afraid this is contrary to the FreeDOS spirit. That being said, there is

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

Hello! On 2017-11-04 16:02, Dale E Sterner wrote: I don't believe that freedos should be restricted to only open software but should promote anything that improves dos, like QV which is closed but great dos software. DOS is on the edge of extinction and needs all the help it can get. Owner of

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

Hi! On 2017-11-04 18:02, Ralf Quint wrote: On 11/4/2017 4:58 AM, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: I too have a couple of old 486 systems and recently also two 286 laptops (yeah!) but I wasn't yet able to install FreeDOS on them. The first reason being that my first project, a desktop 486,

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

On 11/4/2017 4:58 AM, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: > > I too have a couple of old 486 systems and recently also two 286 > laptops (yeah!) but I wasn't yet able to install FreeDOS on them. The > first reason being that my first project, a desktop 486, doesn't have > a CD-ROM drive and, natually,

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

Hi, On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 6:58 AM, wrote: > > On 2017-11-04, 11:41, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote: >> >> There some bad heated past definitely which hopefully will be cooled down by >> time Have you actually *tried* his latest drivers on FreeDOS proper?? If not, then why

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

here here On 11/04/2017 08:02 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: I don't believe that freedos should be restricted to only open software but should promote anything that improves dos, like QV which is closed but great dos software. DOS is on the edge of extinction and needs all the help it can get.

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

I don't believe that freedos should be restricted to only open software but should promote anything that improves dos, like QV which is closed but great dos software. DOS is on the edge of extinction and needs all the help it can get. Owner of closed softwre could be asked to include the source in

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

Thank you, it is in my to do list to try them it is just limited personal time - it takes lot of effort to revive retro systems and getting a working DOS is only part of the challenge. Sometimes newer software such as FreeDOS or Jack's drivers save a lot of time to get things working and the job

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

Hi! On 2017-11-04, 11:41, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote: Hi, There some bad heated past definitely which hopefully will be cooled down by time but ultimately like I said, there is a number of dos era systems that people like myself may want to use with FreeDOS and Jack's drivers are an option to do

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

Hi, There some bad heated past definitely which hopefully will be cooled down by time but ultimately like I said, there is a number of dos era systems that people like myself may want to use with FreeDOS and Jack's drivers are an option to do that when available for use - in my case for example

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

Hi, On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote: > > the wishes of the owners of the respective intellectual property have to be > respected. Personal opinion does not invalidate the law, and a so-called license is only valid if it doesn't contradict the system

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

Hi, Tom, On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > > even closed, unfree, paid for software usually comes with a link so I > can find more description (rather then 'more fail-safe 386 XMS move'), > download it, see fee ( '25$ per PC'), limitations ('not for