Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

G'day Marv: I know I'm late to the FreeDos party, but it would help me and maybe other newcomers to know what you guys do with your FreeDos PCs. At the moment, nothing; I'm waiting for a sore foot to heal before using an old Polar heart-monitor. I was thinking of utility type things that

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Hello Jerome, Some random additional thoughts, I guess some times there was a little confusion with the 1.2 release over a FULL install. Maybe a good way would be to call a "FULL minus EXTRA" install by a less confusing name? E.g. perhaps call it a "RICH" install or something along those

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

That subject line is just asking for a lot of traffic! I am a DOS user in current operations (wordstar, Foxpro, others).  My thought about asking for a survey,etc. is that it should come from the "mgmt" of the FreeDOS organizaton.  That way those of us that are not involved in the decisions of

Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

I'm running FreeDos on an old Pentium server that came with Windows 2000. I wanted to keep W2K, so I installed FreeDos in a partition. I use PLOP on a diskette to boot to either W2K or FreeDos. I wanted to install Linux on it just for fun, but haven't been able so far. This old beast has a USB

Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

I have dual boot FreeDOS and WIndows 7 on one spare retro-ish computer that I dedicated to it. When on WIndows I'm connected to the network and also I can natively see FAT32 partition that is represented by FreeDOS. Then my custom UEFI boot manager loads FreeDOS with all the stuff desired for a

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

This is such an interesting discussion. Granted my quick check of the survey was a bit of a mess. still I have a question / comment as someone who uses DOS exclusively, but who has not installed freedos on a machine due to a couple of factors. I resonate with the freedos is open source

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 09:36:29PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: > > Yes, but for starters the "modest" programming languages could be included: > > GW BASIC, 2-3 Forth compilers (they're tiny in size), C--, XPL0 etc. If I'm > > Nobody programs useful stuff with GW BASIC, C-- or XPL0. I meant

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Hi, Some random additional thoughts, I guess some times there was a little confusion with the 1.2 release over a FULL install. Some thought it installed absolutely everything on the disc. But, that was not the case. There was over 400mb of packages not included by FULL. Those were the

Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:19 PM Marv wrote: > > I know I'm late to the FreeDos party, but it would help me and maybe other > newcomers to know what you guys do with your FreeDos PCs. I was thinking of > utility type things that are easier or more quickly done in DOS, but I'm wide > open to any

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Hi ZB, > Yes, but for starters the "modest" programming languages could be included: > GW BASIC, 2-3 Forth compilers (they're tiny in size), C--, XPL0 etc. If I'm Nobody programs useful stuff with GW BASIC, C-- or XPL0. Even with Forth, useful stuff is not written on DOS. If you want modest,

Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 03:17:52PM -0500, Marv wrote: > I'm wide open to any ideas. Just browse "Vetusware" and see; for many applications DOS is still relevant today. No particular need to fill your HDD up with 100 MB sized applications, when 100-200 KB ones do about the same thing. Just maybe

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Hi Tom, > On Dec 4, 2020, at 1:08 PM, tom ehlert wrote: > >> Are you happy with what software is included with FreeDOS? > > you are mixing up "FreeDOS" with "FreeDOS setup 1.x” > […] > insofar your attempt to discuss what should be "FreeDOS" is welcome. > it just comes a little bit late. I

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 08:59:03PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: > > Maybe, but 90% of FreeDOS users don't need programming languages > > Well it is open source, so it is good to show users > what coding can mean ;-) Yes, but for starters the "modest" programming languages could be included: GW

[Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

I know I'm late to the FreeDos party, but it would help me and maybe other newcomers to know what you guys do with your FreeDos PCs. I was thinking of utility type things that are easier or more quickly done in DOS, but I'm wide open to any ideas. So far I've got programs like Supercalc,

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Hi! > Maybe, but 90% of FreeDOS users don't need programming languages Well it is open source, so it is good to show users what coding can mean ;-) But what you mean is the BASE install: Indeed that should be similar in size to old MS DOS distros, only a few megabytes, just the features of DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 08:26:46PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: > > "FreeDOS installation has to fit standard 650 MB CD" > > Even then I disagree. While you could fill entire DVD with > stuff for DOS, a FreeDOS CD could be a lot smaller That's why I meant 650 MB CD, not 4 GB DVD. > Just the 3 most

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Freedos is open source. Everyone has the privilege of creating as many forks as desired. It ain't a big deal. Al On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 1:09 PM tom ehlert wrote: > > Are you happy with what software is included with FreeDOS? > > you are mixing up "FreeDOS" with "FreeDOS setup 1.x" > > there

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

On 12/4/2020 10:42 AM, ZB wrote: Why petabytes? I believe there could be "sane boundary" established; for example: "FreeDOS installation has to fit standard 650 MB CD". This sounds rather insane to me, considering that MS-DOS/PC-DOS fit on 3 or 4 floppy disks. Just saying. There have been

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Hi! > "FreeDOS installation has to fit standard 650 MB CD" Even then I disagree. While you could fill entire DVD with stuff for DOS, a FreeDOS CD could be a lot smaller if you omit a few, but huge packages. For example DJGPP can be a reasonable number of megabytes, but you can also fill the

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:08:03PM +0100, tom ehlert wrote: > luckily for "FreeDOS", developement has stalled. > otherwise "FreeDOS" would be PetaBytes to download. Why petabytes? I believe there could be "sane boundary" established; for example: "FreeDOS installation has to fit standard 650 MB

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

> Are you happy with what software is included with FreeDOS? you are mixing up "FreeDOS" with "FreeDOS setup 1.x" there was a lot of FreeDOS going on before this (IMO insane) FreeDOS 1.0 release. xyzDOS used to be mostly equivalent to be our "BASE" with few additions. at some point, someone

[Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

Are you happy with what software is included with FreeDOS? Are there packages you feel don't always need installed? Make sure your voice is heard. Visit the Package Survey https://fd.lod.bz/survey Even if you don’t want any changes or to leave a comment, you