Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-03-30 Thread dmccunney
Ultimately, this discussion is pointless. 1. Stallman has been known to be difficult for about as long as he's been active. He's easy to work with - he's the smartest one in the room, and just do things his way. No? Expect problems. 2. The FSF is increasingly *irrelevant*. Open Source has

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-03-30 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Thanks, Eric: Looking at the links provided by TK Chia and in Jim's blog, Stallman has (and caused) a real problem, so I agree that he should not be in that new powerful position he now got. What clout does the FreeDOS community have? If our outfit is affiliated or disaffiliates from FSF,

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-03-30 Thread John Ames
I don't know why we're still arguing about this. It's been established fact for *ages* that cooperation with RMS is impossible: http://www.jwz.org/hacks/why-cooperation-with-rms-is-impossible.mp3 ___ Freedos-user mailing list

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-03-30 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 9:06 AM TK Chia wrote: > > > Honestly, he's been known as "very eccentric" for many years. I don't > > think anybody is surprised. He has opinions and voices them (whether > > unpopular or not). You know what they say about opinions, right? > > Everyone has one. > >

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-03-30 Thread Eric Auer
Hi all! Looking at the links provided by TK Chia and in Jim's blog, Stallman has (and caused) a real problem, so I agree that he should not be in that new powerful position he now got. And I do not think that this is cancel culture censoring unpopular thoughts. He can share his thoughts as

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-03-30 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Thanks, TK: Well, I happen to lurk around on the GCC mailing list.  The impression I am getting is that the issue might be much larger than just "someone having unpopular opinions" We do have old people with old-fashioned views. I accept that this isn't nice. --

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-03-30 Thread Ralf Quint
On 3/30/2021 6:51 AM, TK Chia wrote: Hello Rugxulo, Honestly, he's been known as "very eccentric" for many years. I don't think anybody is surprised. He has opinions and voices them (whether unpopular or not). You know what they say about opinions, right? Everyone has one. Well, I happen to

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-03-30 Thread TK Chia
Hello Rugxulo, Honestly, he's been known as "very eccentric" for many years. I don't think anybody is surprised. He has opinions and voices them (whether unpopular or not). You know what they say about opinions, right? Everyone has one. Well, I happen to lurk around on the GCC mailing list.

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-03-30 Thread Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user
> Until Microsoft isn't a monopoly, Stallman > almost has to be the way he is and can hardly change at all. Microsoft isn't really the problem any longer. You can pretty much get Windows 10 for free. Fewer and fewer people have PCs in their homes, having been replaced by phones and tablets

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-03-30 Thread Bryan Kilgallin
Thanks, Liam: I like debate! -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] FSF

2021-03-30 Thread Liam Proven
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 at 03:01, Michael Christopher Robinson wrote: > > Stallman is clearly a hard person to get along with. Part of the reason is > that Microsoft has been a monopoly for so long that the GPL was the only way > anyone could have a personal computer run something not MS-DOS and