Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:37 PM Rugxulo wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:31 PM dmccunney wrote: > > > > The person who passed it on said [Transmeta Crusoe] was "Slow, slow, SLOW". > > No surprise - it came with WindowsXP SP2, and took *8* minutes to simply &

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:48 PM Felix Miata wrote: > dmccunney composed on 2020-03-24 13:30 (UTC-0400): > > mich...@robinson-west.com wrote: > > >> Linux won't run on a 286 or XT by the way. > > > *Unix* didn't run on a 286. There were a couple of attempts > >

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 11:52 PM wrote: > > Just a thought, some of us have old computers that we want to run freedos on. > Running Linux on a Pentium 4 and trying to run Dosbox on top of that is going > to be pretty have for that machine. I run an Android port of DOSbox on an older and less

Re: [Freedos-user] OT: book reading via text to speech on e-book readers

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 9:17 PM Eric Auer wrote: > PS: I believe Pocketbook uses Linux or Android based firmware. They > are known for NOT locking users to a shop and do well with PDF, too. IIRC. Android. The Kindle also uses Android, and because Android uses a Linux kernel and Linux is open

Re: [Freedos-user] Can't install FreeDOS

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:28 AM ZB wrote: > On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 12:47:33AM -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > > > It's amazing to me that so many people still use 486s with FreeDOS. > > For most DOS applications 486 is kind of "numbercruncher" - and, besides, > if you use Intel 486 CPU you'll get

Re: [Freedos-user] floppy drive won't format disk...

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 4:24 PM wrote: > As far as USB floppy, that may or may not work in Windows XP and higher. > They definitely don't work in Windows 10. You have a problem USB floppy drive or a problem Win10 installation, or both. I have a NEC USB 3.5" floppy drive that works just fine

Re: [Freedos-user] Only Get Black Screen with Blinking Cursor following Installation of FreeDOS to my Machine

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 5:25 PM Jen via Freedos-user wrote: > I haven’t tried reformatting the partition and running the installation again > yet; I suspect it will still do the same thing. Should I try that? > Any ideas what I’ve done wrong or why it might not be working? You may need to

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 2:23 PM tom ehlert wrote: > > > On 16/02/2020 22:54, tom ehlert wrote: > >> doing programming *on* DOS in 2020 is just stupid. > > > Why would that be more stupid than programming *for* DOS in 2020? > > A hobby is a hobby. > > ok. replace 'stupid' by 'inefficient' in the

Re: [Freedos-user] Impulse Tracker on freedos

On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 2:05 PM Robert Riebisch wrote: > also I'm not sure you can run 64-bit on an Atom N270. Then try 32-bit. Its a single core 32 bit CPU. See https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/36331/intel-atom-processor-n270-512k-cache-1-60-ghz-533-mhz-fsb.html >

Re: [Freedos-user] qt and DOs?

On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 12:03 AM Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I am well aware of what calibre can do, and know some who use it on the > desktop. *You* know. Others may not. The background was there for people who might not. > the question is, if a compile of Calibre is possible for dos...you

Re: [Freedos-user] qt and DOs?

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 8:10 PM Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi folks, > Anyone know if the qt platform can be used to create DOS ports of programs? > www.qt.io I don't believe the Qt framework can be used to create DOS applications. And it wouldn't help you because it exists to create

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 and Windows 9x...

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 8:28 PM wrote: > > MS DOS 6.x was not the end of MS-DOS. Windows 9x releases added a strange > protected mode, but unlike NT, these versions of Windows still ran on top of > MS-DOS. Well, kinda. Win3.X ran on top of DOS, and was essentially a multi-tasking shell with

Re: [Freedos-user] MODE not changing RTS or DTR of serial ports

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 6:13 PM Matt Jacobs wrote: > I suspect that DTR/RTS being on is the reason why I cannot write to the > serial port. How are you *trying* to write to the serial port? What is connected to the port? How is it connected? DTR/RTS is hardware flow control, used to

Re: [Freedos-user] Again about power-saving options

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 7:42 AM ZB wrote: > Indeed PCISLEEP can make my VGA sleep, it seems (at least it declared it > can) - but most important to me is to give CPU a break when it's not that > busy (waiting for my typing etc.). The energy maybe not that important, > just I'd like to avoid

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 3:49 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > I ran freedos chkdsk and it said: > "fat32 not currently supported" > This was on FREEdos1.2. > Also lchk said on line 16 of its report: > "FAT32 compatible disk access disabled" > This was on FREEdos1.2 running on 32 gig cf chip > with an

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:53 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > I don't know if I still have the file; since it didn't work > I may have erased it. I probablely did. I don't *care* if you still have the file. I just wanted to know what its *name* was, so I could look at it if I grabbed the DOS TCL

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 4:04 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > I used the mem command to check for freespace. > Currently I'm using PCdos 7.1; since it only works > on fat16 I'm running out of space fast. What you will have to do is partition your 32GB drive to break out additional 2GB volumes.

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:35 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > Tried copy again and this time it worked - including wildcards. > I've been running TCL for a week and maybe it did something > it shouldn't have. Still had trouble with the move command; > it comes back [Insufficient disk space in

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 8:29 PM Thomas Mueller wrote: > From dmccunney: > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:40 AM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > > > The edit command has limits on size; had to use Wordperfect on one file. > > > In 2015 Dennis talked about using vedi

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 4:07 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > You can download TCL869 and play with it yourself. I wanted to know which specific example file you had a problem with. How about actually answering the question? > Its dos but seems to need windows in the background. > I wantn't to see

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 2:57 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > I downloaded TCl 8.69 and have been playing with it. > They give you TCL example files to run. One interesting > file was about 1.5 meg. When I ran it, it would always > ask for msg 1.6 (whatever that is) so I tried to edit the > file to

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:40 AM Dale E Sterner wrote: > The edit command has limits on size; had to use Wordperfect on one file. > In 2015 Dennis talked about using vedit but can't find a dos version. > In the new world large files are common. Large files are common. Large *text* files are

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and Samba

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:57 PM wrote: > October 13, 2019 9:23 AM, "Jon Brase" wrote: > > SMB1 has known vulnerabilities, so Windows has had the option to disable SMB > 1 entirely for a while and on the Linux side, upstream SAMBA recently changed > to disabling it by default. It is possible

Re: [Freedos-user] Tinyasm vs. NASM

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 4:57 AM TK Chia wrote: > Hello dmccunney, > > > Er, how much do we actually *care* about EXE size on disk? Even folks > > going old skool and trying to run on 808X CPUs are likely to have > > decent HDs.. (Is *anyone* still trying to r

Re: [Freedos-user] Tinyasm vs. NASM

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 10:00 PM Rugxulo wrote: > >ia16-elf-gcc -mcmodel=small -Os -mregparmcall -mnewlib-nano-stdio \ > > tinyasm.c ins.c -o tinyasm.exe > > What is the resulting size of the .EXE with your build? (He said it > uses at least 128k RAM, right?) At least for development and

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

ntioned, you would need to implement something like Quickview as a TSR you could pop up over the running QPro session, or exit QPro and then run Quickview to look at stuff. > Many thanks. You're welcome. > cheers > DS __ Dennis > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 19:08:22 -0400 dmccunney >

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 4:03 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > Dennis > > I think you were saying that TCL was used to link programs together. Well, to tie them together. Linking is a different thing. You can think of TCL as a vastly more powerful version of a batch file, calling other programs from

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 1:30 AM Ralf Quint wrote: > On 9/30/2019 9:45 PM, dmccunney wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:38 PM Ben Collver wrote: > >> Ralf Quint wrote: > >>> On 9/29/2019 7:10 PM, dmccunney wrote: > As mentioned in another reply, Pa

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:38 PM Ben Collver wrote: > Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 9/29/2019 7:10 PM, dmccunney wrote: > >> What would you be benchmarking? > > I would benchmark a set of tasks performed on an identical data set. > For example, importing the data, doing

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 11:57 AM Ben Collver wrote: > Some day i would like to benchmark the DOS port of SQLite versus > databases such as Foxpro and Paradox. I understand these are not fair > comparisons because those old DOS databases supported the 8086. It is a > technical marvel that they

Re: [Freedos-user] Source code to Windows 9x and ME...

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:54 PM geneb wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2019, Ralf Quint wrote: > > > interest to open source ANY part of ANY windows. Even Windows 1.x and > > 2.x, which are on GitHub now, are still copyrighted. So it all comes > > Copyright has nothing to do with how "open" something is.

Re: [Freedos-user] Source code to Windows 9x and ME...

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:22 AM Michael C Robinson wrote: > > I don't have a few million, but a group able to cobble together a few > million is more realistic to put together. Where "realistic" is "extremely unlikely" instead of "totally impossible" > Question is, how much would membership

Re: [Freedos-user] Issue installing FreeDOS on Raspberry Pi 3

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 8:02 AM ZB wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 12:05:04AM -0700, Ralf Quint wrote: > > > These are two totally different worlds! The only way you could get FreeDOS > > to run on a RPi is after installing one of the default Linux versions to > > install QEMU, which is an x86

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 9:09 AM ZB wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:34:36AM -0400, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: > > > Do you know if this includes BLT? If the above was about me, I really have no idea, why you called me like that. > > Do you really think that presently TCL has such strong

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 AM ZB wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 08:25:43AM -0700, Ben Collver wrote: > > > Tcl is a script language originally created by Dr. John Ousterhout, who is > > currently a Professor of Computer Science at Stanford University. > > Thanks! > I'm actually somewhat

Re: [Freedos-user] HP laptop touchpad

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 5:44 PM Tom Messmer wrote: > > For the record, just using a ps/2 to USB adaptor fixed the problem and it > works fine. Oh, cool! I mentioned PS/2->USB adapters upthread, but wasn't sure it would work. Apparently, CuteMoiuse sees PS/2, and the fact it actually connects

Re: [Freedos-user] HP laptop touchpad

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 4:14 PM Tom Messmer wrote: > > I agree about trackpads, they’re awful. The only port this thing has is a > USB port and a usb mouse didn’t really fare any better than the trackpad, and > I don’t think cutemouse supports usb mice either. Supporting *anything* in USB in

Re: [Freedos-user] HP laptop touchpad

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 3:21 PM Tom Messmer wrote: > > I have an old HP Pavillion dv6000 laptop that I’ve installed Freedos on. I’m > a unix guy and have very little experience with dos, so bear with me if you > could. Everything installed nicely, and it certainly performs like a champ, >

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 11:32 AM ZB wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 11:18:42AM -0400, dmccunney wrote: > > > It's available for Windows, Linux, and OS/X > > ...and for all BSDs. I'd be startled if it weren't, The source I listed offers pre-built binaries, but it's portab

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 10:54 AM Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: > > I used Tck & Tk along BLT (not Bell Lab Tech) to automate the generation of > X-Y plots from CSV files generated by legacy Unix FOTRAN code, it also ran on > Win97 boxes (~15 years ago). Really great stuff. TCL/TK has been around for

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:13 AM Rugxulo wrote: > It seems you're aware of existing builds mirrored to iBiblio. (It was > most likely me who mirrored those, for completeness, but honestly I've > never used Tcl and don't know of many apps using it. Still, it sounds > promising.) TCL is a script

Re: [Freedos-user] Sharing announcements about FreeDOS programs

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 11:11 PM Jim Hall wrote: > Also, at the bottom of every email sent through the lists, you have this > footer: > >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 2000 fat32 and freedos...

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 1:56 AM Tom Ehlert wrote: > > FreeDOS began as an effort to create an open source version of 16 bit > > DOS, compatible with what Microsoft issued. It largely succeeded in > > that effort. > exactly. > > Providing the support you want is serious system level

Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 2000 fat32 and freedos...

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:28 PM Michael Christopher Robinson wrote: > Just because Microsoft doesn't support dos anymore, does that mean that > the freedos community has to cut off support at the limits of what > Microsoft did? I for one would like full fat32 support and support > for at least

Re: [Freedos-user] New FASM and NASM versions available

No, I simply think the point in the article was wrong, based on experience with the platform, Your mileage obviously varies. __ Dennis On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 9:57 AM ZB wrote: > > Everything you've written in your post is *totally* missing the point > presented in the article I gave link

Re: [Freedos-user] New FASM and NASM versions available

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 8:32 AM ZB wrote: > On Wed, May 01, 2019 at 09:05:35PM -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > > N.B. The 8088 [sic] turns 40 this year. That's the one the original IBM PC > > used. > > The one "slower than Commodore 64" ;) > > https://trixter.oldskool.org/2011/06/04/at-a-disadvantage/ >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Internet Security Protocols and Graphical I nterface

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 7:32 PM Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I suppose what confuses me is the idea that one cannot do much in dos on > the internet. Perhaps you are speaking of direct connecting, although my > understanding that the Arachnid browser for dos supports > JavaScript just fine,

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 2:50 PM Rugxulo wrote: > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:23 AM Raymond Bathurst wrote: > > > > Can anyone recommend an IDIOT-proof method of installing FreeDOS 1.2 on > > a fixed SSD drive (with no OS) via one of several USB ports ? > > I don't have any SSDs, though, and you need

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 1471, Issue 1

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 10:06 AM Tom Schultz wrote: > > An observation; > > I just acquired a Lenovo 300e Chromebook which was developed for the > education market [schools]. I wonder what grade level? It includes a text > editor which I assume is used for writing code because it has a word >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 6:32 AM Jan van Wijk wrote: > On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 11:22:47 -0400 dmccunney wrote: > > > >> There is a new commercial OS/2 variant now, ArcaOS from arcanoae.com . > >> 32-bit, no 64-bit, no GPT, no refund it it doesn't work. > > > >64-bi

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:29 PM Ben Sauvin wrote: > > Legacy applications can also be a lot of fun. For suitable values of the term. :-p > I used to work for a "high tech" company that ran a kind of ERP on DOS > machines. It was a mass of compiled COBOL, source code not available and the >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:41 PM Don Flowers wrote: > > So this statement caught my attention:" Other things that have a Linux kernel > uder the hood are the Amazon Kindle and B Nook eBook reader devices (and > source > for their Linux kernel and firmware is available." > Amazon may have

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:32 PM Cuvtixo D wrote: > > I'm glad this is being cleared up a bit here. Yes, I should have made the > civil/criminal distinction. Yes, it's too expensive to be practical for > commercial companies. But still, at least in my fantasies, Stallman would > have done a big

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 7:33 PM Jim Hall wrote: > On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 6:00 PM, dmccunney wrote: > > Agreed on being as free as possible, and the question is how free > > FreeDOS *can* be. > > > > The bigger question is "Why use FreeDOS at *all*?" No

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

love to see *FreeDOS* re-licensed under > >>> something other than the GPL.) > Firstly, GPL still presently has no American legal force behind it! dmccunney > (I believe) mentioned Stallman's lack of touch with reality, and, I think > this is reflected most importantly in the fa

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:29 AM Thomas Mueller wrote: > Excerptfrom dmccunney: > > > > MS isn't the only vendor of a DOS-compatible OS. DR-DOS and ROM-DOS > > > are still sold online. (Do OS/2 variants also count? Maybe.) > > > Which OS/2 variants? The one I'm a

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 7:51 PM Rugxulo wrote: > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:17 AM dmccunney wrote: > > > > It's no loss to MS to make DOS 1.5 and 2.0 available under a permissive > > license. > > "No loss" might be inaccurate. While it may be trivial c

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 4:47 PM Ralf Quint wrote: > On 9/29/2018 6:14 AM, dmccunney wrote: > > > > IIRC, the FreeDOS kernel is written largely in C, so the ASM source > > isn't directly usable. It may be useful to go spelunking for the > > algorithms used and ho

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:10 AM Jim Hall wrote: > > This is a very interesting update. Finally Microsoft has released the source > code to MS-DOS under a recognized open source license. And interestingly, the > MIT license (aka Expat license) is compatible with the GNU GPL >

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS networking with embedded Realtek PCIe - 8168

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:31 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > really? > If sshdos no longer connects, then how am I sending this e-mail? Karen, the point to SSH is an *encrypted* connection to the other end. Flaws have been identified in some of the commonly used encryption schemes that make them

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS networking with embedded Realtek PCIe - 8168

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > May be using some misinformation, but what ssh client is included in Freedos > if any? > Is / was there a putty dos one for example? As far as I recall, there has never been a DOS version of PuTTY. It's Windows specific, though a Unix

Re: [Freedos-user] rcal v1.0

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, 9:14 PM Bret Johnson wrote: > >> The one I use is called HOC (High Order Calculator), a DOS port from a >> Unix version written many years ago by Kernighan & Pike. It's not on the >> page listed above. I don't remember

Re: [Freedos-user] Global preferences for EDIT

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:52 PM dmccunney wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:20 PM Bret Johnson wrote: > > > I don't like the idea of having EDIT.CFG (or whatever) files all over my > > hard drive as Dennis suggests, though that is certainly one way to approach &g

Re: [Freedos-user] Global preferences for EDIT

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:07 PM David McMackins wrote: > > > What EDIT preferences would you want to set globally and have them > > always active? > > In my particular case, I always want full tabs (real tab characters) > when I strike the tab key. I don't like how when I read a file with >

Re: [Freedos-user] Global preferences for EDIT

On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 8:18 AM David McMackins wrote: > > I would like to save my settings for EDIT in such a way that they take > effect everywhere. Seems to me, when I choose to save, it puts a file in > the current directory, and the settings only work when launching from > that directory.

Re: [Freedos-user] ssh2021b.

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:36 AM Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I am wondering if anyone else here uses this dos package for any of their > internet work? > by contrast how or if I can still reach the package developer? > I have a unique issue that I must explore with someone very used to > this

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:51 PM Rugxulo wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 3:57 AM, dmccunney wrote: > > > > I went around this elsewhere with a guy who is doing a replacement for > > the Busybox package with the first target being Android. (Android > > developers

Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 2:31 PM Mateusz Viste wrote: > > Does it have a parallel port? If so, then you could run PLIP. I wrote a > gopher article about connecting a no-NIC PC to the LAN through its > parallel port using PLIP: > > gopher://gopher.viste.fr/1/myinfobase/?disp2017-03-05 plip bridge

Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:24 PM David McMackins wrote: > > Even if I did, that doesn't answer my question. Even if I get connected > to dial-up, will TCP/IP applications still work, or will they complain > about drivers since they are trying to access a NIC? I don't see why not. TCP-IP is a

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos & old 486-33MHZ System

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 12:38 AM Thomas Fritsch wrote: > > im trying to optimize the use out of my old 486 for realtivly older things > including Win 3.1 Software, am i best sticking to MS-DOS 6.22 or will > freedos on such an old ram starved system proove to run better? (20MB SIMM > memory)

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 1:48 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > My goal was to find the legal owner and see if they > would sell me a copy of the source code and let > me make changes for personal use only. > It has to have a copywrite on it so why didn't > the office find one; it seems a simple job. >

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

> Exactly. And that should answer Dale's question of "So what is the > point of having a copyright office." Your work is automatically under > copyright when you create it. But if you register the work with the US > Copyright Office, then you have a solid legal ground if someone else > comes along

Re: [Freedos-user] Difficulty with serial communications

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Schoenfelder, Tim M wrote: > I am having difficulty getting serial communications to work on FreeDOS 1.2 > using new style PCs such as HPs, Dells, etc. The software fails to > communicate. To test, I have attempted to use: > > ">echo hello > com1" Out of

Re: [Freedos-user] [Announce]E100PKT 0.2 (stable)

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > for all of you who have no gopher client handy (as gopher is > ridiculously outdated), try the public gopher proxy > >https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?gopher.floodgap.com/1/world > > to access this gopher site and download the driver.

Re: [Freedos-user] Status of BTTR Forum?

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi people, the whole bttr-software.de website no > longer shows me any content, just a login popup. > This has started a while ago, but is persisting. I just tried, and I get a login form asking for an ID and password, with the line

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject) JAR on Android

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi! > > Actually Android is a modified version of LINUX with > stronger separation of the directories between apps > and other differences. Well, sorta. Technically, Linux is the Linux kernel - vmlizuz on installations

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > I get paper statments for everything and they now > all charge me for the paper version. The bank is $3 > and the phone is $5 for paper. I pay because I trust > paper. Computer software is in constant flux. > One day

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > Sorry I didn't pick up on it. > Even Brazil is doing it, The web only said India was > doing it. Where were you looking? It sounds like your search was cursory at best. > How did the US escape this fate. A complex

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 5:08 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > The NL also love digital payments for all > everyday expenses, although studies show > that this lets people lose proper view on > their expenses. On the other hand, you in > the US must be used to pay many things on >

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

enough to make it worth while to maintain and sell DOS programs - I fear you are living in a dream world. The rest of the world has moved on. > DS __ Dennis .. > On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 17:48:13 -0400 dmccunney <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com> > writes: >> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:12 PM, dmccunney <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com> wrote: > [..] >> Having it available under a compatible open source license will let >> Jim make it available as part of Free

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:56 PM, geneb <ge...@deltasoft.com> wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2018, dmccunney wrote: > >> Best case, you get what Embarcadero once did. They inherited the >> former Borland DOS products like Turbo-C, and were offering them as >> unsup

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On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > I wouldn't expect them to ever release the source but > to put it back on the market for sale, like it use to be. > Not everthing can be open and free. If you tell them you > have a million downloads they may feel there

Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting to a BBS via a modem

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > Obviously a signal processing driver for a winmodem requires some > CPU power, but Pentium III is fast enough for that. The problem is that > you basically have no winmodem drivers for DOS at all as far as I know. I've

Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting to a BBS via a modem

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:02 AM, David McMackins wrote: > My laptop has a hardware modem, internal. It's a Pentium III machine, so > I'm not sure what risks that may imply about it being a Winmodem I've > heard such nasty things about. Winmodems were simplified devices

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on hp computers?

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 4:20 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 3/21/2018 11:46 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: >> >> I've used ios (junked it), Android & Freedos. Freedos is not too far >> behind those two. Android is fine but is always being upgraded. >> I think I'm on my 10th tablet.

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on hp computers?

inux at them. It's multi-user, multi-tasking, multi-threading, runs on 32 bit and 64 bit hardware, and has been brought up on Intel, ARM, MIPS, SPARC and various other architectures. DOS is Intel specific. > DS __ Dennis > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 18:57:28 -0400 dmccunney <dennis.m

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on hp computers?

pps, whether or not you actually use it. > cheers > DS __ Dennis > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 14:40:05 -0400 dmccunney <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com> > writes: >> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:28 PM, Dale E Sterner <sunbeam...@juno.com> >> wrote: >> > Pity,

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on hp computers?

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:28 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > Pity, if they gave it 802.11 and BT drivers; it would > make FREEDOS more appealing. Someone would have to *make* such drivers to include. HP won't - what would they get out of it? > DS __ Dennis

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Ray Davison wrote: > A small side trip about real work in real DOS. > > Since Win2K, my desktops have had a 2G, FAT16 primary at the front of the > first HDD, carrying DOS and a boot manager, and two Win partitions, both > logicals. Every

Re: [Freedos-user] External Commands?

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Curtis Collins wrote: > I installed full FreeDos to USB and it boots and works fine. Only problem is > there are none of the usual external commands like "chkdsk". There are > descriptions of various packages on the project web

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Samuel V. via Freedos-user wrote: > I was thinking that it could become necessary to start implementing a > FreeDOS version that included natively its own BIOS, and that this > combination of FreeDOS/BIOS is implemented entirely

Re: [Freedos-user] challenging dos question.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Thanks to you Dennis, and john for this suggestion. > The thing is that the file is command.com You should have mentioned that earlier. What is the problem you are encountering that requires you to overwrite it?

Re: [Freedos-user] challenging dos question.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi folks, > its complicated. However, is there a way to copy over a file that is > technically hidden? > having a bit of a computer crisis. DOS recognizes four file attributes: archive, read-only, hidden, and

Re: [Freedos-user] ZANSI.SYS

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 5:17 PM, <userbeit...@abwesend.de> wrote: > On 2017-11-04 20:50, dmccunney wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 3:32 PM, <userbeit...@abwesend.de> wrote: >>> >>> I tried to find ZANSI.SYS but found that it is nowerdays re

Re: [Freedos-user] ZANSI.SYS

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 3:32 PM, wrote: > > I tried to find ZANSI.SYS but found that it is nowerdays really hard to > get... Finally I found it there: > https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/net/user/tytso/msdos/screen/ Another source is here:

Re: [Freedos-user] have servers made a big change recently

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Paolo Vincenzo Olivo wrote: > On 26 Oct 2017 13:28, "Jim Hall" wrote: > >> Yes, the FreeDOS website is still plain old http. >> >> I have https on my to-do list, but I get so little "downtime" to myself that >> I

Re: [Freedos-user] have servers made a big change recently

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 7:28 AM, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote: > On Oct 24, 2017 11:39 AM, "dmccunney" <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> I can't connect to freedos.org and many other web sites. >> >> Freedos.org doesn't appea

Re: [Freedos-user] have servers made a big change recently

t you are accessing. It's more secure, but requires using a browser than can *do* https. What client are you using now? I don't try to browse from DOS, and haven't kept up on what's available for it, so I have no idea whether a client that will work exists. __ Dennis > On Tue, 24 Oct 2

Re: [Freedos-user] have servers made a big change recently

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > I suddenly find that I can connect to only 2 web sites, noiw. What can you still successfully connect to? > I can't connect to freedos.org and many other web sites. Freedos.org doesn't appear to have changed. It's

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