Re: [Freedos-user] Sved, yet another text editor

2023-08-07 Thread Deposite Pirate via Freedos-user
On 8/6/23 23:26, Mateusz Viste via Freedos-user wrote: Because I felt that the world needed another DOS text editor, I have spent past month's evenings on a new project named SVED. SVED (short for "the SvarDOS editor") is designed for basic editing of configuration files and such. It is NOT

Re: [Freedos-user] How to unload a driver?

2022-11-04 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Fri, 4 Nov 2022 15:46:44 -0400 dmccunney wrote: > I do have a Unix machine which has an experimental capability to > unload drivers, but it was experimental. Nowadays, the efforts are to > have things loaded in user space, and unloadable if you no longer need > what they do. Linux has been

Re: [Freedos-user] dosbox-x update available

2022-08-16 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:15:32 +0200 Aitor Santamaría wrote: > Yes, on 32-bit versions of Windows (and I think this applies to > Windws > Vista/7 at least), there used to be the NTVDM that can run DOS > programs fairly well. > I used to test FD-KEYB there quite a lot, as in case it locks the >

Re: [Freedos-user] More on OpenGEM

2022-08-04 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 12:43:11 +0200 Liam Proven wrote: > I think it's buried inside GEM config files somewhere. Can't readily > change that from a batch file. On seasip.info there is a program to start GEM from another path. So maybe this isn't even configurable. I suspect \GEMSYS \GEMAPPS and

Re: [Freedos-user] More on OpenGEM

2022-08-03 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 16:38:44 +0200 Liam Proven wrote: > Well yes. But FDIMPLES doesn't run the installer scripts anyway. > OpenGEM comes configured for VGA and expects to be installed in C:\ > whereas it is actually in C:\OPENGEM -- so it fails to start > correctly. The scripts also have provision

Re: [Freedos-user] More on OpenGEM

2022-08-03 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022 19:00:37 +0200 Liam Proven wrote: > I am considering vastly simplifying Shane's batch files and trying to > cut down on the config and get this working properly. I know Shane > personally so I can ask him if that's OK -- I am sure he won't object. That would be really nice. I

Re: [Freedos-user] Super Charging Windows 3.1 ?

2022-06-10 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 10:38:29 -0700 Ralf Quint wrote: > On 6/9/2022 8:55 AM, Roderick Klein wrote: > All references and possible downloads for anything DOS and Windows <= > 3.11 has been removed from Microsoft's web site(s) at least 10 years > ago. By that time, pretty much all application and

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2022-01-01 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:37:29 +0100 Liam Proven wrote: > > This typical Microsoftish genius idea, makes you jump through all > > kinds of hoops that include a third party online repartitioning > > tool to install it on an NTFS partition bigger than 2Gb. > > That's unfair. I think it's connected

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-31 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:14:10 +0100 Liam Proven wrote: > FWIW, I always used to have a DOS boot partition (C:) and put Windows > on D: back in the XP days. It was useful to have the ability to > dual-boot DOS for BIOS reflashing and occasionally for emergency data > recovery. I made the partition

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-30 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 18:40:07 -0500 dmccunney wrote: > You might be*able* to. I encountered a guy years back adamant that > Win2K should be run from FAT32. He thought it was faster. (I thought > he was a fool.) > > Why you might *want* to is another matter. "A file system DOS can > read and

Re: [Freedos-user] Country Code

2021-12-30 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 19:21:36 +0100 Liam Proven wrote: > AFAIK XP *must* be installed in an NTFS partition. It cannot be > installed on FAT. DOS can't boot from NTFS and can't read NTFS without > additional drivers. So I still don't know what you're doing here. Windows XP can indeed officially be

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-28 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 00:33:01 +0100 Liam Proven wrote: > On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 at 23:23, Deposite Pirate > Fascinating! Thank you very much. I learned something this evening. > :-) > No problem. If you poke around this website you'll also learn that earlier IBM were also behind a f

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-28 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 19:56:26 +0100 Liam Proven wrote: > On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 at 19:45, Deposite Pirate > wrote: > > > > It's not up to Microsoft to release MS/PC-DOS > 2.x. IBM did the > > bulk of the work on "MS" DOS for a while after 2.x and they would >

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be maintained

2021-12-28 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 22:27:26 +0100 Aitor Santamaría wrote: > I would dare say that even Bill Gates himself must have those sources > somewhere in one harddrive of his own (for historical purposes). :) > > Aitor It's not up to Microsoft to release MS/PC-DOS > 2.x. IBM did the bulk of the work on

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and LFN

2021-12-19 Thread Deposite Pirate
On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 09:24:07 +0100 Tomas By wrote: > On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 14:18:44 +0100, Joseph Norton wrote: > LFN are for Unix programs (DJGPP). DOS programs, like dir, do not know > about them. Not really. Some DOS programs such as the doszip file manager have support for the LFN API as well

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

2021-04-29 Thread Deposite Pirate
April 29, 2021 6:32 PM, "geneb" wrote: > On the surface of it, he's apparently asking for a "windows experience" in a > text mode operating > system. DOS isn't a "point and drool your way to fame and fortune" operating > system. If he thinks > this is bad, he'd have a stroke when presented with

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS on (very) small form factor PCs?

2021-04-29 Thread Deposite Pirate
April 29, 2021 11:31 AM, "Eric Auer" wrote: > Hi! > >> There are PCEngines ALIX boards (AMD Geode) with VGA out, one >> minipci slot. They are known to run FreeDOS. You probably >> have to install it with PXE because there's no floppy or >> CDROM drive. > > According to

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS on (very) small form factor PCs?

2021-04-28 Thread Deposite Pirate
April 29, 2021 12:06 AM, "Eric Auer" wrote: > So I would like to hear whether single board > computers in similar size and price (not PC/104 > price level) with x86 compatible CPU exist and > which of them can be recommended by people here. There are PCEngines ALIX boards (AMD Geode) with VGA

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-16 Thread Deposite Pirate
April 16, 2021 1:36 PM, "Liam Proven" wrote: > I have looked into this in considerable depth and that article you > cite is based on a misunderstanding of the claims. > > Nobody is saying that Paterson or SCP _copied code_ from CP/M into > QDOS. That is not the claim here, so that oft-cited

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-15 Thread Deposite Pirate
April 15, 2021 3:10 PM, "ZB" wrote: > Yes, there is. When new software is created only by hobbyists -- no longer > by companies -- and also new hardware is created only as hobby thing, not > mass-manufactured by any company, not sold in the shops when there are no > new device drivers created

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-14 Thread Deposite Pirate
April 14, 2021 6:01 PM, "Johnpaul Humphrey" wrote: > So my question is, why do YOU use FreeDOS? Because there is no such thing as a "retro" or "ancient" computer. That wording is programmed obsolescence propaganda. A computer is a useful tool as long as it works as expected and there is no good

Re: [Freedos-user] Proposal to add "unzip16.exe" to FreeDOS Disk Image

2021-02-10 Thread Deposite Pirate
February 10, 2021 2:41 PM, "Eric Auer" wrote: > Hi Pirate! > > To add my 2 cents: While it is good when the package > manager has a built-in unzip function and extra features > to keep your DOS installation well-structured, it also > is desirable to have a normal ZIP and UNZIP tool around > as

Re: [Freedos-user] Proposal to add "unzip16.exe" to FreeDOS Disk Image

2021-02-10 Thread Deposite Pirate
February 10, 2021 9:39 AM, "Adam Nielsen via Freedos-user" wrote: > Is it worth pointing out that every version of MS-DOS, including the > DOS-based Windows recovery boot disks, have included a utility out of > the box to extract bare files from their "packages"? Even though it's a good idea to

Re: [Freedos-user] Proposal to add "unzip16.exe" to FreeDOS Disk Image

2021-02-09 Thread Deposite Pirate
I think that's a great idea. I don't like the default FreeDOS UNIXish filesystem layout nor the installer and I just always install things manually to have files where I like them to be. Getting unzip16 which is needed to unpack most stuff often requires jumping through hoops like finding it

Re: [Freedos-user] Spaghetti

2021-01-27 Thread Deposite Pirate
January 27, 2021 6:59 PM, "Bryan Kilgallin" wrote: > I have been editing the OpenGEM code. It's a dog's breakfast! First it > assumes that I didn't put > the OpenGEM directory where I did. Then it cross-references jumps between > batch files in an opaque > way. And the writes to screen do not

Re: [Freedos-user] IDE <-> CF adapters

2020-12-21 Thread Deposite Pirate
Hi, I have two CF adapters. A front side floppy size Startech one in an Athlon XP system that had an AsRock VIA motherboard until a few days ago when I upgraded it to an EPoX nForce 2 motherboard. Then I have another chinese one that is mounted on the back in an extension bracket on an IBM

Re: [Freedos-user] Is there such a thing as an add-on SATA host contro ller that works with DOS?

2020-10-26 Thread Deposite Pirate
October 26, 2020 10:10 PM, "Bret Johnson" mailto:bretj...@juno.com?to=%22Bret%20Johnson%22%20)> wrote: The problem I have found in writing disk drivers in the past (like my USB drivers) are the disks that do NOT show themselves as removable when they actually are, not the ones (like SanDisk)

Re: [Freedos-user] Is there such a thing as an add-on SATA host controller that works with DOS?

2020-10-24 Thread Deposite Pirate
October 24, 2020 3:04 PM, "Eric Auer" wrote: > Hi Pirate, > > as far as I remember, it is common for SATA controller > PCI or PCIe cards to include some BIOS, but if that is Yeah, I just wonder if there's one that takes over the BIOS interface like an XT-CF/IDE card does. Neither the SiI 1235a

Re: [Freedos-user] Is there such a thing as an add-on SATA host controller that works with DOS?

2020-10-24 Thread Deposite Pirate
October 24, 2020 2:17 PM, "tom ehlert" wrote: > > there are adapters SATA-PATA > https://www.amazon.de/Pin-IDE-PATA-SATA-Adapter/dp/B00EOJNGC2 > > Tom Not sure that would allow to use the whole capacity of the SATA drive with a BIOS from 1997.

Re: [Freedos-user] Is there such a thing as an add-on SATA host controller that works with DOS?

2020-10-24 Thread Deposite Pirate
October 24, 2020 2:07 PM, "Volkert via Freedos-user" mailto:freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net?to=%22Volkert%20via%20Freedos-user%22%20)> wrote: In pure DOS, such cards will probably not work unless they have their own boot ROM (BIOS extension) on-board. I believe SATA RAID cards typically did

[Freedos-user] Is there such a thing as an add-on SATA host controller that works with DOS?

2020-10-24 Thread Deposite Pirate
Hi, I have a bunch of SATA mechanical hard drives with perfect health that I've swapped out for SSDs in various laptops. I installed a 160Gb one with a Silicon Image 3512a SATALink host controller in my IBM Aptiva E30-2137 (ALi M1531 Aladdin IV chipset). So far it seems to works great with

Re: [Freedos-user] No network

2020-09-05 Thread Deposite Pirate
September 6, 2020 1:40 AM, "ZB" wrote: > - loads 3c5x9pd.com packet driver The latest/newer version of 3c5x9pd.com doesn't work. You have to get the older one. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Freedos-user] Benchmark volunteers wanted

2020-07-12 Thread Deposite Pirate
I have a Pentium 200 MMX system with a CF to IDE adapter and a bunch of CF cards with different OSes including custom installed (I don't use official installers and just install the old way and edit config.sys and autoexec.bat to my taste) FreeDOS 1.3rc3 and DR-DOS 8.1. I have used both to do

Re: [Freedos-user] Realtek ethernet not working

2020-07-07 Thread Deposite Pirate
My Realtek 8139 works fine with FreeDOS 1.3rc3, but you may have to try several PCI slots before it works. In autoexec.bat I have something like: SET MTCPCFG=C:MTCP.CFG SET WATTCP.CFG=C: SET PATH=%PATH%;C:MTCP;C:WATTCP LH RTSPKT.COM 0x61 MTCPDHCP.EXE M2WATM2WAT.COM July 6, 2020 8:23 PM,

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

2020-05-25 Thread Deposite Pirate
May 25, 2020 5:30 PM, "Jerome Shidel" wrote: > I agree and have said several times, Emulation is not Hardware. > > I wouldn’t get anything lower than a 286 to Run the current kernl86.sys. > > But, as I said, the one tester in the IIRC had been running it on the NEC v30 > w/a 80186. Did a CPU >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

2020-05-25 Thread Deposite Pirate
I wouldn't be too confident that PCem does not have bugs. I've played a lot with it recently because my 1512's monitor needs to be repaired and I have yet to find somewhere I can get that done. There are several things that don't work with PCem's 1512 emulation that should. I couldn't get a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

2020-05-24 Thread Deposite Pirate
May 24, 2020 4:07 AM, "Jerome Shidel" wrote: > > I may someday add support to V8PT for CGA. But, not soon. I even wonder why I > limit my ASM code to > 8086, when the kernel won’t even work on one. I think the lowest anyone has > had success booting the > FreeDOS kernel was a 80186. FreeDOS

Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft Open-Sources GW-BASIC

2020-05-22 Thread Deposite Pirate
This cannot be compiled to machine code because it's some kind of meta assembler to generate assembler for various processor architectures and this meta assembler is apparently not available. So unless someone goes through the pain of reverse engineering this meta assembler this is pretty much

Re: [Freedos-user] Floppy only

2020-03-10 Thread Deposite Pirate
March 10, 2020 3:55 PM, "Jacques-Olivier Farcy" wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to install freedos on a computer without USB port. > Just floppy and a little hard drive inside. > > Is there a way to do that ? Yes. Just like any other DOS. Get the image of a FreeDOS floppy and write it to a