Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 3:17 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > I can see you have a lot of experience in this type of > thing. I was hoping to run Qpro and bring up reciepts > that had been scanned and view them with quickview or PV. > I run dos mostly to use qpro; a link to quickview would > add alot

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

I can see you have a lot of experience in this type of thing. I was hoping to run Qpro and bring up reciepts that had been scanned and view them with quickview or PV. I run dos mostly to use qpro; a link to quickview would add alot to qpro. A fast way to review numbers. Many thanks. cheers DS

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 4:03 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > Dennis > > I think you were saying that TCL was used to link programs together. Well, to tie them together. Linking is a different thing. You can think of TCL as a vastly more powerful version of a batch file, calling other programs from

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

Dennis I think you were saying that TCL was used to link programs together. Is it possible to use it to link qpro to quickview. Could I open quickview while runing qpro. If anyone would know it would be you. cheers DS ** >From Dale

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 1:30 AM Ralf Quint wrote: > On 9/30/2019 9:45 PM, dmccunney wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:38 PM Ben Collver wrote: > >> Ralf Quint wrote: > >>> On 9/29/2019 7:10 PM, dmccunney wrote: > As mentioned in another reply, Paradox is a totally different case, with > no

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On 9/30/2019 9:45 PM, dmccunney wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:38 PM Ben Collver wrote: Ralf Quint wrote: On 9/29/2019 7:10 PM, dmccunney wrote: What would you be benchmarking? I would benchmark a set of tasks performed on an identical data set. For example, importing the data, doing a

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On 9/30/2019 8:37 PM, Ben Collver wrote: Ralf Quint wrote: On 9/29/2019 7:10 PM, dmccunney wrote: What would you be benchmarking? I would benchmark a set of tasks performed on an identical data set. For example, importing the data, doing a bunch of inserts, deletes, random selects, etc.

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:38 PM Ben Collver wrote: > Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 9/29/2019 7:10 PM, dmccunney wrote: > >> What would you be benchmarking? > > I would benchmark a set of tasks performed on an identical data set. > For example, importing the data, doing a bunch of inserts, deletes, >

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On 9/30/2019 12:55 PM, andrew fabbro wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 9:57 AM Ralf Quint > wrote: SQLite by default is using 2000 pages of 4096 bytes as caching buffer (that's 8MB, in older versions the default page size was 1024 bytes). I am not aware

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

Ralf Quint wrote: On 9/29/2019 7:10 PM, dmccunney wrote: What would you be benchmarking? I would benchmark a set of tasks performed on an identical data set. For example, importing the data, doing a bunch of inserts, deletes, random selects, etc. SQLite is a full SQL compliant relational

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 9:57 AM Ralf Quint wrote: > SQLite by default is using 2000 pages of 4096 bytes as caching buffer > (that's 8MB, in older versions the default page size was 1024 bytes). I > am not aware of a SQLite port for plain DOS (not newer Windows command > line!), but that

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On 9/29/2019 7:10 PM, dmccunney wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 11:57 AM Ben Collver wrote: Some day i would like to benchmark the DOS port of SQLite versus databases such as Foxpro and Paradox. I understand these are not fair comparisons because those old DOS databases supported the 8086. It

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 11:57 AM Ben Collver wrote: > Some day i would like to benchmark the DOS port of SQLite versus > databases such as Foxpro and Paradox. I understand these are not fair > comparisons because those old DOS databases supported the 8086. It is a > technical marvel that they

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

Thanks! I didn't see the "r" in the version number. I've mirrored these to ibiblio. Since they contains diffs from original sources, I also made sure to mirror original sources too. On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:24 AM wrote: > > Yes the main difference is that the [exec] command works in the

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 9:09 AM ZB wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:34:36AM -0400, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: > > > Do you know if this includes BLT? If the above was about me, I really have no idea, why you called me like that. > > Do you really think that presently TCL has such strong

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

I have a gut feeling that expect requires true multitasking and IPC, which DOS doesn't offer but it may be available in some environments like Desqview/X. Not certain. On September 24, 2019 9:14:26 AM PDT, dmccunney wrote: >On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 AM ZB wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

for Tcl versions 8.4.20, 8.5.19, and 8.6.9. >> >> https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.4.20-for-dos >> >> https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.5.19-for-dos >> >> https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.6.9-for-dos >> >> >> __

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 09:14:26AM -0700, dmccunney wrote: > The "killer app" for TCL is Expect, a TCL script from Don Libes I'm aware of that, personally using TCL/Tk since more than 10 years. But, sadly, that 10 years ago there was _much_ more "movement" on comp.lang.tcl than today... and

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

of Tom Poindexter, Georg Potthast, >and Viktor Wagner. These builds also include Ck and Sqlite. Below are >download links for Tcl versions 8.4.20, 8.5.19, and 8.6.9. >> >> https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.4.20-for-dos >> >> https://archive.o

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 AM ZB wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 08:25:43AM -0700, Ben Collver wrote: > > > Tcl is a script language originally created by Dr. John Ousterhout, who is > > currently a Professor of Computer Science at Stanford University. > > Thanks! > I'm actually somewhat

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

I’ve been looking for years for a language/package that makes it simpler to generate graphs & charts. So far the best alternative I’ve found so far is MS Excel. Does Ruby or Python have graphics? This clown speaks for himself > On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:08 PM, ZB wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 24,

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:34:36AM -0400, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: > Do you know if this includes BLT? > > This clown speaks for himself If the above was about me, I really have no idea, why you called me like that. Do you really think that presently TCL has such strong presence among coders

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

; download links for Tcl versions 8.4.20, 8.5.19, and 8.6.9. > > https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.4.20-for-dos > > https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.5.19-for-dos > > https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.6.9-for-dos > > > ___

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 08:25:43AM -0700, Ben Collver wrote: > Tcl is a script language originally created by Dr. John Ousterhout, who is > currently a Professor of Computer Science at Stanford University. Thanks! I'm actually somewhat amazed, how underestimated TCL/Tk nowadays is -- regards,

[Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS update

Wagner. These builds also include Ck and Sqlite. Below are download links for Tcl versions 8.4.20, 8.5.19, and 8.6.9. https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.4.20-for-dos https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.5.19-for-dos https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.6.9-for-dos

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

> On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 12:15:44PM -0700, Ben Collver wrote: [.. Tcl 8.5.19 and Tcl 8.6.9 ..] [.. Tcl 8.4.20 ..] [..] Thanks Ben! I've mirrored these versions at the FreeDOS archive on ibiblio. :-) ___ Freedos-user mailing list

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 12:15:44PM -0700, Ben Collver wrote: > Fixed it... > > Here is a download link for Tcl 8.4.20 built using DJGPP with Ck and Sqlite. > > https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.4.20-for-dos Wow! Thanks a lot :) -- regards, Zbigniew

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

ZB wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 11:52:35AM -0700, Ben Collver wrote: On your suggestion i built Tcl 8.4.20 using DJGPP, but it crashes somewhere in TclpSetInitialEncodings(). It seems to recurse infinitely... Thanks, I already got that one - but this is much earlier version. I'm not

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 08:56:41AM -0700, Ben Collver wrote: > Some day i would like to benchmark the DOS port of SQLite versus databases > such as Foxpro and Paradox. I understand these are not fair comparisons > because those old DOS databases supported the 8086. It is a technical > marvel

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 11:49:07AM -0400, dmccunney wrote: > You use TCL/Tk to create wrappers for stuff you write in other > languages. Doing the framework and UI in TCL/Tk will dramatically > reduce development time. Indeed - but not just for this. One can create complete advanced application

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

Rugxulo wrote: Hi! On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 2:57 PM Ben Collver wrote: I recently built Tcl for DOS using DJGPP. This is based on the work of Georg Potthast and Viktor Wagner. These builds include Ck and Sqlite. Below are download links for Tcl 8.5.19 and Tcl 8.6.9.

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 11:32 AM ZB wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 11:18:42AM -0400, dmccunney wrote: > > > It's available for Windows, Linux, and OS/X > > ...and for all BSDs. I'd be startled if it weren't, The source I listed offers pre-built binaries, but it's portable, so I'd expect BSD

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 11:18:42AM -0400, dmccunney wrote: > It's available for Windows, Linux, and OS/X ...and for all BSDs. In fact today it's not just "Tool Command Language" - but one can create nice application using just TCL/Tk (and some of plenty of packages created for it during past

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 10:54 AM Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: > > I used Tck & Tk along BLT (not Bell Lab Tech) to automate the generation of > X-Y plots from CSV files generated by legacy Unix FOTRAN code, it also ran on > Win97 boxes (~15 years ago). Really great stuff. TCL/TK has been around for

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

>>> cheers >>> DS >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 12:55:38 -0700 Ben Collver >> >>> writes: >>>> I recently built Tcl for DOS using DJGPP. This is based on the >> work >>>> of >>>> Georg Pott

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

based on the > work > >> of > >> Georg Potthast and Viktor Wagner. These builds include Ck and > >> Sqlite. > >> Below are download links for Tcl 8.5.19 and Tcl 8.6.9. > >> > >> https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.5.19-for-dos &g

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

or DOS using DJGPP. This is based on the work >> of >> Georg Potthast and Viktor Wagner. These builds include Ck and >> Sqlite. >> Below are download links for Tcl 8.5.19 and Tcl 8.6.9. >> >> https://archive.org

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

Super explaination - thanks. cheers DS On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 10:34:07 -0400 dmccunney writes: > On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:13 AM Rugxulo wrote: > > > It seems you're aware of existing builds mirrored to iBiblio. (It > was > > most likely me who mirrored those, for completeness, but honestly >

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

Potthast and Viktor Wagner. These builds include Ck and > Sqlite. > Below are download links for Tcl 8.5.19 and Tcl 8.6.9. > > https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.5.19-for-dos > > https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.6.9-for-dos > > > ______

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:13 AM Rugxulo wrote: > It seems you're aware of existing builds mirrored to iBiblio. (It was > most likely me who mirrored those, for completeness, but honestly I've > never used Tcl and don't know of many apps using it. Still, it sounds > promising.) TCL is a script

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

Hi! On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 2:57 PM Ben Collver wrote: > > I recently built Tcl for DOS using DJGPP. This is based on the work of > Georg Potthast and Viktor Wagner. These builds include Ck and Sqlite. > Below are download links for Tcl 8.5.19 and Tcl 8.6.9. > >

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 11:52:35AM -0700, Ben Collver wrote: > On your suggestion i built Tcl 8.4.20 using DJGPP, but it crashes somewhere > in TclpSetInitialEncodings(). It seems to recurse infinitely, similar to > the problem described below [1]. In case you are interested, you can find > an

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

ZB wrote: On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 12:55:38PM -0700, Ben Collver wrote: I recently built Tcl for DOS using DJGPP. This is based on the work of Georg Potthast and Viktor Wagner. These builds include Ck and Sqlite. Below are download links for Tcl 8.5.19 and Tcl 8.6.9. Interesting. Perhaps it

Re: [Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 12:55:38PM -0700, Ben Collver wrote: > I recently built Tcl for DOS using DJGPP. This is based on the work of > Georg Potthast and Viktor Wagner. These builds include Ck and Sqlite. Below > are download links for Tcl 8.5.19 and Tcl 8.6.9. Interesting. Perhaps it would

[Freedos-user] Tcl for DOS

I recently built Tcl for DOS using DJGPP. This is based on the work of Georg Potthast and Viktor Wagner. These builds include Ck and Sqlite. Below are download links for Tcl 8.5.19 and Tcl 8.6.9. https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.5.19-for-dos https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.6.9-for-dos