Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-18 Thread Eric Auer
To add yet another personal view to this thread: > [...] Win10 and Linux. I have an assortment of old DOS apps that I > run using DOSBox, which was designed to let folks run old DOS games > on machines that aren't PCs. But also PCs that just do not run DOS as main OS. > [...] 23" 1920x1080

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-18 Thread Paolo Vincenzo Olivo
> The question is whether you need DOS > itself to do that. > I run Win10 and Linux. I have an > assortment of old DOS apps that I > run using DOSBox, which was designed > to let folks run old DOS games on > machines that aren't PCs. > Under Windows, I use vDOSPlus, which > is a fork of DOSBox

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-18 Thread dmccunney
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Ray Davison wrote: > A small side trip about real work in real DOS. > > Since Win2K, my desktops have had a 2G, FAT16 primary at the front of the > first HDD, carrying DOS and a boot manager, and two Win partitions, both > logicals. Every

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-18 Thread Dale E Sterner
I'm like you I do all on book keeping and wordprocessing on dos. Its easier to use than windows. I run my software on cf chips. I plug them into adapters. I can remove the dos chip and carry it to another computer to continue my work. Something that can never work with windows. Tired of working in

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-18 Thread Ray Davison
A small side trip about real work in real DOS. Since Win2K, my desktops have had a 2G, FAT16 primary at the front of the first HDD, carrying DOS and a boot manager, and two Win partitions, both logicals. Every other partition is a logical. Using that layout I am now running FreeDOS 1.1 and

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-12 Thread Samuel V. via Freedos-user
Re: Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system? http://sourceforge.net/u/udocproject/profile/ I have written a few Assembly code snippets that will be helpful. I should probably talk in the development list to see how to think up 32/64-bit native implementations. For example, I have

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jim, >>> I was thinking that it could become necessary to start implementing >>> a FreeDOS version that included natively its own BIOS... >> In my opinion: 1. is a very good idea. Something which boots >> via UEFI and supports GPT and loads Coreboot / Seabios / other... The difference to

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-08 Thread Paolo Vincenzo Olivo
__ From: Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 12:25:58 AM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system? > > I was thinking that it could become necessary to start implementing

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-08 Thread Jim Hall
> > I was thinking that it could become necessary to start implementing a > > FreeDOS version that included natively its own BIOS, and that this > > combination of FreeDOS/BIOS is implemented entirely native as 32 or > > 64-bit code... > > In my opinion: 1. is a very good idea. Something which

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-08 Thread Tom Ehlert
> There already is FD32 which puts FreeDOS and > a 32-bit DOS extender into the same file, I missed this. If you mean FreeDOS-32, they put 'FreeDOS and a 32-bit DOS extender' in the project name, but the source is unrelated to FreeDOS. If I'm wrong, please correct me. > but the improvements >

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-07 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > I was thinking that it could become necessary to start implementing a > FreeDOS version that included natively its own BIOS, and that this > combination of FreeDOS/BIOS is implemented entirely native as 32 or > 64-bit code... In my opinion: 1. is a very good idea. Something which boots

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-07 Thread Ivan Ivanov
Maybe you can use the open source coreboot/SeaBIOS projects? It would be stupid to write your own BIOS from scratch, much better to just take these successful implementations and use them By the way, if you have coreboot-supported motherboard, it is already possible with 1 simple command to

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-07 Thread Z. B.
On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 04:15:08PM +, Samuel V. via Freedos-user wrote: > I was thinking that it could become necessary to start implementing a FreeDOS > version that included natively its own BIOS, and that this combination of > FreeDOS/BIOS is implemented entirely native as 32 or 64-bit

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 12:58 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Samuel V. via Freedos-user > wrote: > >> I was thinking that it could become necessary to start implementing a >> FreeDOS version that included

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 2:55 PM, TJ Edmister wrote: > > Reimplementing BIOS functions so that DOS could still run on a system > without BIOS would be useful. (I suspect someone will do this sooner or > later.) DOSEMU? It also runs under x64 Linux. AFAIK, that doesn't

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:55 AM, blame troi wrote: > On 1/6/2018 11:15 AM, Samuel V. via Freedos-user wrote: >> >> Would you use a FreeDOS version that was entirely native to 32 or 64 bits? > > I believe I would. I love the basic simplicity (it's a good simplicity) of >

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-06 Thread TJ Edmister
On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 11:15:08 -0500, Samuel V. via Freedos-user wrote: I was thinking that it could become necessary to start implementing a FreeDOS version that included natively its own BIOS, and that this combination of FreeDOS/BIOS is implemented

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-06 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Samuel V. via Freedos-user wrote: > I was thinking that it could become necessary to start implementing a > FreeDOS version that included natively its own BIOS, and that this > combination of FreeDOS/BIOS is implemented entirely

Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-06 Thread blame troi
On 1/6/2018 11:15 AM, Samuel V. via Freedos-user wrote: Would you use a FreeDOS version that was entirely native to 32 or 64 bits? I believe I would. I love the basic simplicity (it's a good simplicity) of DOS but memory issues and trying to figure out which extender works with which

[Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?

2018-01-06 Thread Samuel V. via Freedos-user
I was thinking that it could become necessary to start implementing a FreeDOS version that included natively its own BIOS, and that this combination of FreeDOS/BIOS is implemented entirely native as 32 or 64-bit code, to keep using the known DOS environment, the same DOS/BIOS INT calls