Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Darrin M. Gorski
> In this instance, one is. For you maybe, but clearly not for everyone. > But honestly, if you want to multitask DOS apps, use an OS designed to > do that: namely Windows, or in the early 1990s, OS/2 2 or later. Should I use dosemu? ;) Seriously though, thanks for the 'advice' but I have it

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Travis Siegel
On 3/14/2022 6:48 PM, Liam Proven wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 23:27, Travis Siegel wrote: How does one tell which version of WSL is in use? https://pureinfotech.com/check-wsl-version-windows-10/ The command: wsl -l -v ... should tell you. Only it doesn't.  It only lists the linuxes

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Jim Hall
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 22:35, Jim Hall wrote: > > > > Yup, that's exactly how I used FreeDOS in DOSEMU in the 1990s. I'd > > start up DOSEMU running FreeDOS, then start up GNU Emacs on Linux. I'd > > edit my source files in Emacs (Linux), and compile them on FreeDOS > > (DOSEMU). And I didn't

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Travis Siegel
On 3/14/2022 9:34 AM, Sean Warner wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:08 PM Robert Riebisch wrote: Hi Travis, > (probably a silly question, but it would help me to be able to run dos > apps this way, unless someone has another free alternative that is > accessible).

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 23:27, Travis Siegel wrote: > How does one tell which version of WSL is in use? https://pureinfotech.com/check-wsl-version-windows-10/ The command: wsl -l -v ... should tell you. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 22:35, Jim Hall wrote: > > Yup, that's exactly how I used FreeDOS in DOSEMU in the 1990s. I'd > start up DOSEMU running FreeDOS, then start up GNU Emacs on Linux. I'd > edit my source files in Emacs (Linux), and compile them on FreeDOS > (DOSEMU). And I didn't close Emacs

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 21:29, Darrin M. Gorski wrote: > > > Same _time_? Ek! That sounds like a recipe for file corruption. > > No, not tried and don't want to. But surely that isn't what you meant? > > Yes, that's exactly what I mean - concurrency. My DOS use case is a > multi-node BBS

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Travis Siegel
On 3/14/2022 7:40 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 06:17, Jim Hall wrote: Another free alternative is QEMU, which should be available (and probably already installed by default) in every major Linux distro. I don't see them as being the same thing at all. QEMU is a VM. Sure

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! I hope you are all aware of the fact that dosemu is totally outdated, only dosemu2 is fresh at the moment: http://dosemu2.github.io/dosemu2/ It has daily-built packages available for Ubuntu, Fedora and OpenSuSE :-) Regards, Eric ___

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:49 PM Liam Proven wrote: >[..] > > but rather that FreeDOS (running in DOSEMU) and Linux > > can access the same files at the same time via a shared folder. > > Same files, yes. > > Shared folder? No. Why DOSemu was valuable *to me* is that I *didn't* > need a shared

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Darrin M. Gorski
> Other than that I don't really consider dosemu (or DOSBox) anything > other than a "Virtual Machine" with some DOS-specific knacks. Or rather, "a 'virtual machine' that only supports DOS". - Darrin On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 4:13 PM C. Masloch wrote: > On at 2022-03-14 18:47 +0100, Liam

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Darrin M. Gorski
> Same _time_? Ek! That sounds like a recipe for file corruption. > No, not tried and don't want to. But surely that isn't what you meant? Yes, that's exactly what I mean - concurrency. My DOS use case is a multi-node BBS which needs a (safe) shared file system. (solved with MSNET and

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread C. Masloch
On at 2022-03-14 18:47 +0100, Liam Proven wrote: I don't agree that this feature "makes DOS apps part of the apps on the computer" DOS apps (not games but productivity applications) are by nature text mode apps, with only a few modern exceptions which probably won't work well on DOSemu anyway.

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 18:21, Jim Hall wrote: > > From how you described it, I assumed you were talking about DEXE's. > You said "runs DOS like a program under Linux" which is very similar > to the "DOSEMU apps" (DEXE's) I mentioned. > http://www.dosemu.org/docs/README/0.99/README-4.html No. In

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 8:18 AM Liam Proven wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 14:03, Jim Hall wrote: > > DOSEMU can definitely boot FreeDOS (or any DOS) in a window > > like I've described, where it's a completely self-contained > > and installed DOS. That's exactly how I used to run DOSEMU in

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 16:34, Santiago Almenara wrote: > > I am new to dosemu2, does it support munt, General Midi soundfonts or at > least can you connect those programs to the midi exit of dosemu2 ? Gosh. I never use sound at all under DOS, but I believe it DOSemu2 does have some sound

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Santiago Almenara
Hello TK Chia! Thank you! I am new to dosemu2, does it support munt, General Midi soundfonts or at least can you connect those programs to the midi exit of dosemu2 ? Greetings, Santiago El lun, 14 mar 2022 a la(s) 10:19, TK Chia (u1049321...@caramail.com) escribió: > Hello Travis, > > > Ok,

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread TK Chia
Hello Travis, Ok, odd question, (lots of emulation), but I've got ubuntu 20.04 running under win10, using wsl.  I can't seem to get dosemu installed under that version of ubuntu (though it works fine under a real ubuntu system I have).  When I try to install dosemu under the ubuntu 20.04

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
Thanks to Darrin and Robert for these... On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 14:28, Darrin M. Gorski wrote: > > You can also do that with qemu: -drive format=raw,file=fat:rw:$HOME/shared On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 15:02, Robert Riebisch wrote: > > Bochs has vvfat mode for that: >

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Liam, > A VM doesn't do that. It is a virtual PC with a virtual HD and inside > that a FAT filesystem. My Linux apps can't see into it. My DOS apps > can't see Linux files. Bochs has vvfat mode for that: vvfat: local directory appears as VFAT disk (with volatile redolog / optional commit)

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Sean Warner
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 12:08 PM Robert Riebisch wrote: > Hi Travis, > > > (probably a silly question, but it would help me to be able to run dos > > apps this way, unless someone has another free alternative that is > > accessible). > > Maybe http://takeda-toshiya.my.coocan.jp/msdos/ is already

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Darrin M. Gorski
You can also do that with qemu: -drive format=raw,file=fat:rw:$HOME/shared The QEMU docs state that the FAT is created at startup - so any new files added on the linux side won't appear to DOS after booting However, new files created from DOS will update the in-memory FAT and thus appear to DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 14:03, Jim Hall wrote: > DOSEMU can definitely boot FreeDOS (or any DOS) in a window like I've > described, where it's a completely self-contained and installed DOS. That's > exactly how I used to run DOSEMU in the DOSEMU "1.x" days. Yes, I know, but that's not what I

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 6:42 AM Liam Proven wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 06:17, Jim Hall wrote: > > > > Another free alternative is QEMU, which should be available (and > probably already installed by default) in every major Linux distro. > > You said this in answer to me the other day. I

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Travis, > (probably a silly question, but it would help me to be able to run dos > apps this way, unless someone has another free alternative that is > accessible). Maybe http://takeda-toshiya.my.coocan.jp/msdos/ is already enough on Windows 10 x64? DOSBox is no option? Cheers, Robert --

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 06:17, Jim Hall wrote: > > Another free alternative is QEMU, which should be available (and probably > already installed by default) in every major Linux distro. You said this in answer to me the other day. I meant to respond, but was busy. So, I will now. I don't see

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 05:15, Travis Siegel wrote: > > Ok, odd question, (lots of emulation), but I've got ubuntu 20.04 running > under win10, using wsl. WSL1 or WSL2? Might work on WSL2. Might not on WSL1 because there is no actual Linux kernel present. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile:

Re: [Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-13 Thread Jim Hall
On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 11:15 PM Travis Siegel wrote: > [..] > What do I need to do to get dosemu runningunder ubuntu which is running > under windows 10. > > (probably a silly question, but it would help me to be able to run dos > apps this way, unless someone has another free alternative that is

[Freedos-user] how to get dosemu working under ubuntu installed in wsl

2022-03-13 Thread Travis Siegel
Ok, odd question, (lots of emulation), but I've got ubuntu 20.04 running under win10, using wsl.  I can't seem to get dosemu installed under that version of ubuntu (though it works fine under a real ubuntu system I have).  When I try to install dosemu under the ubuntu 20.04 running under wsl,