[Freedos-user] File systems for FreeDOS

2012-04-10 Thread Alex
Hi I have been mulling over the possibility of using an alternative file system with FreeDOS. In case anyone asks what's wrong with the default file system? I will just say, nothing wrong, but it lacks some features. Extended attributes, for one. The LEAN file system

[Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-10 Thread Alex
Hi This topic is not about DOS vs other operating systems, or the fact that users tend to gradually abandon DOS. It's about the survivability of DOS vis-a-vis hardware. The starting point for my reasoning is: what will happen with the future development of the hardware architectures? So far DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-10 Thread Karen Lewellen
Well I would say this about hardware. I began using dos in 1988, when I first came to computers. It is now 2012, and I am still using it. My experience has personally been that people have created ways to use dos with hardware as it changes, no reason for that to stop any time soon. I am not

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-10 Thread Marco Achury
El 10/04/2012 10:07 a.m., Alex escribió: Hi This topic is not about DOS vs other operating systems, or the fact that users tend to gradually abandon DOS. It's about the survivability of DOS vis-a-vis hardware. The starting point for my reasoning is: what will happen with the future

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-10 Thread Mark Brown
if the hardware chokes on real programming, someone will make an emulator. good! . eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-10 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Bernd, it seems even on modern hardware unpacking FreeCOM during install may take VERY long, so we need a fix: - it is good to have source and binary in one zip - but you can use info-zip's command line options (-x source/*) to exclude sources from unzip :-) - a default install does not

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-10 Thread Bret Johnson
actually I would not even OFFER a boot menu item to skip loading the XMS driver at all: You cannot even boot the install CD / USB on old pre-XMS PC. Probably a bad idea for compatibility reasons, unless you offer multiple choices for which XMS manager to install. E.g., I have a computer

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-10 Thread Mark Brown
the no-drivers choice, No. 4, is provided because some programs, such as PLoP, will not load at all unless there are *no drivers* loaded, at least on my system...   PLoP chokes on any drivers in freedos 1.1, saying: cannot run under windows in a dos box, in effect.   i kid you not.

Re: [Freedos-user] 32 bit FreeDOS?

2012-04-10 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Zbigniew zbigniew2...@gmail.com wrote: At the time of cheap computers, do we really need multiuser OS? It was reasonable 20 years ago, when fast machine was really expensive - but is it still today, when every average user can have his own computer (and - in

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-10 Thread Jack
This topic is not about DOS vs other operating systems, or the fact that users tend to gradually abandon DOS. It's about the survivability of DOS vis-a-vis hardware ... What will happen with future development of the hardware architectures? Cannot answer on all subjects, but re: disk/CD/DVD

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-10 Thread Bret Johnson
Have you tried explicit I=- and X=- commands with JEMM386/JEMMEX?? I've tried several different JEMM options -- none of them fixed the problem on that particular computer. I finally just gave up and went to other alternatives.

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-10 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 10-4-2012 18:21, Eric Auer schreef: it seems even on modern hardware unpacking FreeCOM during install may take VERY long, so we need a fix: This seems to be specific to the old installer (v3.7.8 by Jeremy) I think, as that unpacks entire packages. Sourcecode modification would be required

Re: [Freedos-user] Long-term survival of FreeDOS

2012-04-10 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 01:13 PM 4/10/2012, Jack wrote: Cannot answer on all subjects, but re: disk/CD/DVD drivers, I am NOT overly optimistic! Intel/Microsoft want us all to buy into AHCI, and they may have started ordering mainboard vendors to omit SATA/ IDE logic from their BIOS routines. Do you have a source