dos386,

Could you please stop your excessive use of satirized names for
companies or technologies?  I know you have a point you want to make
in there somewhere but you lose me when I have to parse and substitute
your satirized names for these things (like Flu$h for Flash).

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:07 AM, dos386 <dos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 21 July Eric Auer said:
>> indeed I am trying to motivate people to use TLS/SSL
>
> This (and without HeartBleed's, MD5-certificates, crippled 40-bit keys,...)
> definitely makes sense when hunting around big bucks or sensitive
> personal data ... however obligatory HTTPS for things like BUGzilla's
> and user or developer forums isn't that sane.
>
>> I don't recall ever seeing an MNG file, and if I were Mozilla, I
>> wouldn't bother to add support for something no one actually
>> used, even if it produced *no* bloat.
>
> 10 + 5 = 2 ;-)
>
>> More to the point, who *needed* it?
>
> - people using AGIF and being happy with it
> - people using AGIF but being concerned about its technical issues
> (256 colors etc)
> - people using AGIF but being concerned about its legal issues
> - people using Flu$h for animations and being happy with it
> - people using Flu$h for animations but being concerned about its
> technical issues (bugged Plugin)
> - people using Flu$h for animations but being concerned about its legal issues
> - people who would like to use animations on the Internet but couldn't
> since both AGIF and Flu$h sucked
>
>> What sort of other stuff might you *omit* from Mozilla code to
>> trim bloat?  What do you consider bloat?
>
> Maybe cca 80% of stuff added during recent 4 years.
>
>> H_264 got the nod because it provides better compression, and
>> video takes bandwidth. Google
>
> But the very same Google notoriously tries to prevent people from
> downloading movies from its Loo-Tube. 10 times viewed -> 10 times wasted
> bandwidth. Now let's assert than bandwidth is an issue. :-D
>
>> was looking at Theora as an alternative when they decided to make Chrome
>
> Please point me to the full test report with test materials.
>
>> We *have* a usable spec, and it's being implemented.
>
> We have a codec with legal problems ... when the legal problems expire
> one day the codec will be deprecated ... maybe H265 or H266 will be "in"
> and guess what ... have new legal problems.
>
>> There's a lot more to HTML5 than the new <video> keyword
>
> The new <video> keyword (together with Theora+Vorbis codecs)
> was the useful part of HTML5.
>
>> I don't think "most" video pages rudely cry for flash
>> Got a site where you would really like to see Flash go away in favor of 
>> HTML5?
>
> http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36961338
>
>> Download Flash Player now
>>You need to install Flash Player to play this content.
>
> https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer
>
>> and video isn't the only reason Flash is deployed.
>
> The other one were animations, see above about MNG.
>
>> Folks are moving away from it as fast as they can.
>
> sure :-D
>
>> But getting rid of Flash is a complex exercise.
>> Are *you* willing to pay what it will cost
>
> Definitely NO. Why? Becasue it does NOT need 1000's of
> hours of work done by 1000's of state-of-the-art programmers.
>
> Instead of the malware link "https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer"; they
> could just provide the download link for the movie, or embed it
> using the simple HTML5 style. This would cost actually nothing.
>
>> Since you seem to have missed the fact
>
> oops
>
>> I'll be a good guy
>
> damn
>
>> What worked 20 years ago *won't* work now.
>
> Because of "good guy" 's like you notoriously deliberately break things.
>
>> world is bigger than you are and doesn't *care* what *you* think
>
> Why the hell have *you* subscribed to the *FreeDOS* list?
>
> BTW, FireFox now includes an excellent PDF viewer. It's only
> cca 100 times slower than MUPDF. ;-)
>
> One more bad news for you:
>
>> FF 1-4 do *not* support current standards, and are likely to fail
>> in odd ways if you try to use them now
>
> check
>
> http://www.4p8.com/eric.brasseur/gamma_dalai_lama.html
>
> with FireFox 48
>
> then check with Links 2.13. Oops, you can't since you don't
> have DOS ? Then check the shot I made for you:
>
> http://www.xaver.me/drdoswiki/uploads/Main/li213gam.png
>
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