Re: [Freedos-user] installation/partitions

2020-10-29 Thread Tomas By
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:46:29 +0100, Eric Auer wrote:
> If FreeDOS is the only operating system on your
> FAT partitions, GRUB can automatically find and add it to the
> boot menu when you run update-grub in Linux, as far as I know.

Yes, that works fine in my experience.


> In both cases, FreeDOS would have to manipulate files on NTFS
> or Linux partitions to install itself without your manual help,
> so it is good that FreeDOS does NOT do that [period]

Agreed.

/Tomas


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Re: [Freedos-user] installation/partitions

2020-10-29 Thread Eric Auer


Hi!

>> the installer has no way to install it as a multi boot choice.

We once had logics to add FreeDOS to Windows 98 and similar
boot menus to share one partition, but it has been a while
since Windows stopped using classic FAT and the logics are
too complex to automatically give the desired result in a
sufficiently large subset of existing installations. Compare
to Linux which can even resize Windows partitions and then
create a GRUB menu with Linux and Windows - a lot of effort!

It would be cool if somebody could give Tech Republic a hint
that FreeDOS is not at all limited to 2 GB partition sizes
but only to 2 TB harddisk size and MBR partition schemes ;-)

Note about my earlier comment: GPT partitioning is related
to UEFI but should not be confused with the OTHER problem
of UEFI which is "no BIOS interrupts available unless you
activate some legacy support / load some CSM at boot"...

If you already have GRUB, you can use SYS with suitable options
to generate a boot sector file to add FreeDOS to multi-boot in
situations where several systems will boot from your FAT16 or
FAT32 partition. If FreeDOS is the only operating system on your
FAT partitions, GRUB can automatically find and add it to the
boot menu when you run update-grub in Linux, as far as I know.

If you already have Windows on NTFS, you can probably edit the
Windows boot menu config while in Windows to add FreeDOS, but
I do not know the details about that.

In both cases, FreeDOS would have to manipulate files on NTFS
or Linux partitions to install itself without your manual help,
so it is good that FreeDOS does NOT do that at the moment ;-)

If you want a boot menu to select one of several operating
systems on a single FAT partition, check out my METAKERN
tool, but be aware that it is rather minimalistic, so you
will have to do all "figuring out" by hand to configure it.

Regards, Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] installation/partitions

2020-10-29 Thread Tomas By
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 11:05:58 +0100, tom ehlert wrote:
> [...] however you have to install it manually as the intended multi
> boot environment.
> 
> the installer has no way to install it as a multi boot choice.


I guess you mean (whatever it's called) in Linux?

Yes, I am aware of that, and have tried Freedos+Windows+Linux, but
then apparently Windows put the boot files on the FD partition, which
was C: at that point [and then there were other problems] so next time
I will try Windows first.

/Tomas


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Re: [Freedos-user] installation/partitions

2020-10-29 Thread tom ehlert
Hallo Herr Tomas By,

am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2020 um 07:27 schrieben Sie:

> Hi all,

> Is this correct:

> "Because FreeDOS has the same basic FAT limitations of MS-DOS, the
> largest you can create is a 2,055-MB partition."

no. the FreeDOS kernel supports both 4 GB FAT16 partitions, using 64k
clusters, and FAT32 partitions of up to 2 TB.

> https://www.techrepublic.com/article/configure-it-quick-use-freedos-as-a-replacement-for-ms-dos/

there are more factual errors in this article.

> Also, are there any limitations on the location of the partition on
> the disk?

> E.g. if I have a 250GB disk, can I put a 2GB Freedos partition at the
> end?

yes. however you have to install it manually as the intended multi
boot environment.

the installer has no way to install it as a multi boot choice.

Tom




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Hallo Herr FreeDOS.,




Mit freundlichen Grüßen / with kind regards
Tom Ehlert
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[Freedos-user] installation/partitions

2020-10-29 Thread Tomas By
Hi all,

Is this correct:

"Because FreeDOS has the same basic FAT limitations of MS-DOS, the
largest you can create is a 2,055-MB partition."

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/configure-it-quick-use-freedos-as-a-replacement-for-ms-dos/

Also, are there any limitations on the location of the partition on
the disk?

E.g. if I have a 250GB disk, can I put a 2GB Freedos partition at the
end?

/Tomas



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