If you want to try to do it systematically, you can add -wsless (should reduce 
the agressiveness of the skull strip)

On 1/4/2021 3:52 AM, 
falk.luesebr...@med.ovgu.de<mailto:falk.luesebr...@med.ovgu.de> wrote:

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Hi Simon,


in case your surfaces (and other outputs) look fine, there is no need to worry 
about the skull stripping too much. However, in case you what to do something 
about this you can do either of the following.


Which version are you using? I assume v6? In v7 the hires option basically has 
changed to what was known as the HCP pipeline before. Here, only the surface 
related parts of FreeSurfer are handled in native space. The other stages are 
handled in resampled 1mm space. Therefore, you will benefit from your higher 
resolution, while not having any of these issues. There are also some other 
stages included which may help with high resolution 3T data (e.g. denoising 
prior to surface placement).


In case you want to stick with v6 and what to run everything in native space, 
you can get better skull stripping following the first few steps from this 
guide I put together few years ago (and is still valid today):

https://secure-web.cisco.com/1cP9GZTFwQIDCR-WcWJPQA-tzd6FKvDGnFtvVRx4GcsgT8p3OTg1qClc-Hq--pwQhCCzMU0__8jGrDJugvajjUrRsHuOiOAOaxFIABpq99gkP60a9dQB2KDoTXXK3jmPU66oLOS0VCPGhxL5_1DVsdUVWefugGXKw6nA29BxCzBaKOfrZBOuL4bxxOBVIVUa1E3EfYzL7gMPd6g5Xvqz1zUtRdv-sQtDWX98QT7ZaoRAjjeDZvgWcqjhe9WNHXE5kInE_ok7pb2gunRxE78zPKg/https%3A%2F%2Fsurfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Ffswiki%2FHiResRecon


What you basically do is to run the 1mm stream to create a nice brainmask (or 
any other tool you like), resample that to the resolution of your high 
resolution stream and apply the mask after the normalization stage. Then 
continue with autorecon2 and autrecon3.


Best,

Falk

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Betreff: [Freesurfer] Fw: recon-all -hires option


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Dear list members,

As a PhD student working on longitudinal child and adolescent T1-weighted data 
(.75x.75x.8 mm3) acquired at 3T (age range: 8 - 18 at baseline; 11 - 24 at 
follow-up), with the aim of doing cortical laminar analyses eventually, I am 
interested in getting the most of our lab's submillimeter resolution data. 
Therefore, in addition to a default recon-all run (with the -3T option 
enabled), I ran a separate recon-all with both the -3T and the -hires option 
enabled (with mris_inflate -n 50 added to the expert file), resulting in the 
following two runs:
recon-all -all -i ${subj} -subjid ${SUB_ID} -3T
and
recon-all -all -i ${subj} -subjid ${SUB_ID}  -3T -hires -expert $EXPERT_FILE
Now, the surfaces (i.e., lh.pial, lh.white, rh.pial, rh.white) seem to be 
calculated more accurately for most brain regions, indeed, which looks very 
promising. However, the brainmask.mgz turns out to be of poor quality for a 
number of our subjects, cutting away a substantial portion of the brain. See 
the image below for an example of the same subject, on which both runs have 
been performed. The same slices are shown for each run. As can be seen in the 
image, a part of the the temporal region of the brain has been excluded in the 
brainmask.mgz of the -hires run (left in the image).

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Is there anything I can do, such as adjusting certain parameters, to prevent 
this from occurring? It would be a shame if I couldn't make use of the -hires 
option due to this, as it does seem to be a promising option in all other 
aspects.

Thank you for considering my question. I look forward to hearing from you.

Good holidays to you!

Kind regards,
Simon Poortman (Erasmus MC, Rotterdam, the Netherlands)





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