Re: [FRIAM] Comment Spam!

2006-10-30 Thread James Steiner
In today's Coding Horror Jeff Atwood talks about the effectiveness of CAPTCHAs and how the news of their demise is greatly exaggerated. Also, he says that even though his own site uses a very simple CAPTCHA (the test word is the same, every time), it reduces (his claim) comment spam on his site

Re: [FRIAM] Comment Spam!

2006-10-30 Thread Owen Densmore
Holy cow! I hadn't any idea just how far folks had to go to protect themselves! The fact that OCR doesn't help is quite surprising to me. Good article, thanks. I'm still getting well over 200 hits a day, and no comment spam after the two simple plugins. And still don't need CAPTCHA,

Re: [FRIAM] Comment Spam!

2006-10-30 Thread James Steiner
On 10/30/06, Owen Densmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy cow! I hadn't any idea just how far folks had to go to protect themselves! The fact that OCR doesn't help is quite surprising to me. Good article, thanks. Well, that's the whole idea, right? CAPTCHAs were invented with the intent that

Re: [FRIAM] Comment Spam!

2006-10-30 Thread Raymond Parks
Owen Densmore wrote: Wow! I just got hit with over *400* comment spams on backspaces! ... Have any of us friamers had this happen to their sites? Any interesting solutions? I have no site to which this could happen, so take my suggestion for what it's worth. That said, I think one

Re: [FRIAM] Moons calendar in javascript and svg

2006-10-30 Thread mgd
Quoting Roger Critchlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's a demonstration of how much you can get away with inside a browser these days. The whole calendar runs and renders inside Mozilla/Firefox with no plug-ins requred at all. [..] I think SVG+javascript is going to be a fairly useful platform for

Re: [FRIAM] Growth (was Re: so what would be wrong with sayingwhatyou think?)

2006-10-30 Thread Robert Holmes
On 10/29/06, Phil Henshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert,snip Where the implication that things beginning from scratch have to display implied derivatives of the same sign comes from is a corollary of theconservation laws. snip Consider these 3 attributes of a company: revenue R, cost C, profit

Re: [FRIAM] Comment Spam!

2006-10-30 Thread Giles Bowkett
If you google this topic, you'll discover people in both the open source world and the academic world who have successfully developed systems for defeating captchas. In fact, an automated captcha-defeat service may exist which offers its users a 2% success rate. There may be a company here in

Re: [FRIAM] Growth (was Re: so what would be wrong withsayingwhatyou think?)

2006-10-30 Thread Phil Henshaw
Title: Message Yes of course. You're comparing different attributes of something, not different time periods of the same attribute. It's also important that you're substituting a model for a physical system, but the main reason your comparison ofdoesn't follow my principle is that you're

[FRIAM] driving or feeding emergence

2006-10-30 Thread Phil Henshaw
Title: Message I think what's so hard to get a started with in this is that it's abouthow things work that are out of control. It'sabout what's feedingthings rather than what's driving them, for example. Because the beginning and ending of autonomous complex systems is explosive,that

Re: [FRIAM] Moons calendar in javascript and svg

2006-10-30 Thread Giles Bowkett
that's awesome! can SVG be animated dependably in JavaScript with that kind of sophistication? On 10/30/06, Roger Critchlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just finished reprogramming a lunar calendar that was my first big programming project as an undergraduate back in the 70's. Back then it

Re: [FRIAM] Moons calendar in javascript and svg

2006-10-30 Thread Roger Critchlow
Actually, there's a whole chunk of the SVG spec devoted to animation without any scripting at all. I haven't gotten into that yet. There's a lot of it being used on cell phones using the SVGTiny profile which doesn't have any scripting. Animation with javascript all depends on how dependably

Re: [FRIAM] Moons calendar in javascript and svg

2006-10-30 Thread Giles Bowkett
Not in the sense of an actual continuation? On 10/30/06, Roger Critchlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, there's a whole chunk of the SVG spec devoted to animation without any scripting at all. I haven't gotten into that yet. There's a lot of it being used on cell phones using the SVGTiny

Re: [FRIAM] Moons calendar in javascript and svg

2006-10-30 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
Roger Critchlow wrote: Actually, there's a whole chunk of the SVG spec devoted to animation without any scripting at all. I haven't gotten into that yet. There's a lot of it being used on cell phones using the SVGTiny profile which doesn't have any scripting. I noticed there's a lot of string