Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-11 Thread Owen Densmore
Being here in Italy, Umberto Eco's The Name of the Rose comes to mind. The translation is considered quite good, and it reads very well. Owen I am an iPad, resistance is futile! FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-11 Thread Nicholas Thompson
George, Are you aware that there is a Joyce Group that meets every Saturday in the Library that is doing, among other things, a line-by-line exegesis of Finnegan's Wake? Led by a man who knows huge sections of it by heart. So, if you are reading along in one passage, and you think, ah,

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-11 Thread Ted Carmichael
*S* difficult to find only ten. And I'm not sure what to do with the literature requirement ... I like well-written stories that transcend genre, but I wouldn't claim that is enough. And while I would recommend *everything *from, say, Terry Pratchett or P.G. Wodehouse, I've tried to pick

[FRIAM] Deadline for submissions and suggestions? Notions Of Time

2010-10-11 Thread Victoria Hughes
Hello Orlando, Tyler et al- Intriguing concept. (NPI) What's your time frame for contacting you off-list to discuss this? I have, of course, many ideas. Thanks- Tory On Oct 10, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Tyler White wrote: On behalf of Orlando Leibovitz, We are planning an event titled Notions Of

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread Pamela McCorduck
One of my computer techies was bitten by a brown recluse in El Dorado. All the rest is true--no help from the hospital, a wound that grew and grew. Finally he found a local folk healer who helped. He was very skeptical but by then desperate. I've been banging my open hand first against

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-11 Thread Victoria Hughes
Great to meet yet another Pratchett fan. If you had to pick one Pratchett, which would it be? I'd go for Thief of Time... Tory On Oct 11, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Ted Carmichael wrote: S difficult to find only ten. And I'm not sure what to do with the literature requirement ... I like

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-11 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
Me thinks submissions are continuing to digress away from the Best Works for a Literary Education goal. Thanks Robert C On 10/11/10 11:30 AM, Victoria Hughes wrote: Great to meet yet another Pratchett fan. If you had to pick one Pratchett, which would it be? I'd go for Thief of Time... Tory

[FRIAM] Recluse bites and possible healing option

2010-10-11 Thread Victoria Hughes
Well THAT was educational. Googled images of Brown Recluse and thus waded through pictures of necrotic bites, yecch, gaah. Found several references to compounds including activated carbon, among them this. Their soothing tone calmed my never-going-near-a- woodpile-again response. Brown

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-11 Thread Victoria Hughes
Well, yes but have you read him? Despite being an enormous fan I did not mention him until three others had done so. On Oct 11, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote: Me thinks submissions are continuing to digress away from the Best Works for a Literary Education goal. Thanks

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-11 Thread Victoria Hughes
Just checking - this is the Friam list and not the discuss list, right? On Oct 11, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote: Me thinks submissions are continuing to digress away from the Best Works for a Literary Education goal. Thanks Robert C On 10/11/10 11:30 AM, Victoria Hughes

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-11 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
That's right because I started out interested in what this science/technology oriented community would recommend. I suspect the Discuss list would have a completely different perspective given that there's a big artist component. Thanks Robert C On 10/11/10 12:00 PM, Victoria Hughes wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-11 Thread Scott R. Powell
Du hast Recht. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Victoria Hughes victo...@toryhughes.comwrote: Just checking - this is the Friam list and not the discuss list, right? On Oct 11, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote: Me thinks submissions are continuing to digress away from the

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-11 Thread Scott R. Powell
I have never heard of him, Tory, lord help me. The second most widely read author in the UK and the seventh most widely read non-US author here. I wonder who compiled that statistic. But there's glory for you nonetheless. Thanks to all for mentioning him -

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Pamela, I stand corrected and warned. Given that the Hospital here is such a mixed bag, I wonder if the collective wisdom of this list might produce a spider bite center in the country which one could call into if needed. I am terrified for the children. What did the healer do? Does

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread David Mirly
I used to live in Wichita, Ks. and my house was infested with brown's. I once got bitten on the inside of my arm and it quickly started looking scary. A trip to the minor emergency center and a steroid shot was all that I needed. Other's people's mileage will vary, of course, based on their

Re: [FRIAM] Recluse bites and possible healing option

2010-10-11 Thread Scott R. Powell
Ouch! Were you in fact bitten or badly scared? Thanks for the link. Scott On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Victoria Hughes victo...@toryhughes.comwrote: Well THAT was educational. Googled images of Brown Recluse and thus waded through pictures of necrotic bites, yecch, gaah. Found

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread Scott R. Powell
Inside shoes is a favorite cozy spot for the brown recluse. Scott On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Pamela McCorduck pam...@well.com wrote: One of my computer techies was bitten by a brown recluse in El Dorado. All the rest is true--no help from the hospital, a wound that grew and grew.

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread Carl Tollander
One should mention that in 13 years living here I've only seen 3 recluses, and those not in the same year. Black Widows, however, are a commodity item. Fortunately they're more brazen and thus much easier to avoid. On 10/11/10 12:16 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Pamela, I stand corrected

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread Raymond Parks
Carl Tollander wrote: One should mention that in 13 years living here I've only seen 3 recluses, and those not in the same year. Black Widows, however, are a commodity item. Fortunately they're more brazen and thus much easier to avoid. We used to have one that lived in the red chile

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread Raymond Parks
Steve Smith wrote: My $.02 It looks (and by description of it's web) like what I know of as an Orb Web Spider. Common enough in Northern NM and harmless (to humans) despite the sinister (downright ugly?) look. There seem to be a *lot* of spiders referred to as orb web including Araneus

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread Pamela McCorduck
I don't remember now what the healer did. But my techie has a good- sized white spot on his arm where the spider bit. I think you need not worry overmuch. They really are *recluses.* They wish to be away from humans. On Oct 11, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Pamela, I stand

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread Alison Jones
Yes, Carl, black widows are widespread this year, lots downtown. For all you folks who frequent The Complex know that there are several webs around the steps on both sides of the building. The last time I was there I noticed one had made its web INSIDE the front door. Roy if you are

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

2010-10-11 Thread Ted Carmichael
Favorite one? Well, I love the whole interplay with DEATH and his granddaughter, so I agree that Thief of Time is excellent. For my favorite I'm going to go with one of the city watch books though ... either Night Watch or Jingo. (Night Watch overall is better, but that bit near then end of

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Alison Jones wrote circa 10-10-11 12:22 PM: Roy if you are reading this please go step on it! A!!! Please, no! When we occupied the space, we had a pet BW in the SW corner. She never bothered any of us and we only bothered her when we swept (which was rare). I hate to think you just

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread Russell Gonnering
Dapsone has been used, but it has significant toxicity: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/772295-overview Need to make sure there is no G-6-PD deficiency. Russ#3 On Oct 11, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Pamela McCorduck wrote: I don't remember now what the healer did. But my techie has a good-sized

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread Tyler White
The Complex's motion detector in the main room is protected by a small black widow. Probably a security feature. Found a brown recluse in my trash can in my bathroom at my house only last week. Haven't been bitten by either spiders. Tyler On Oct 11, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Alison Jones wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

2010-10-11 Thread Tyler White
The QA was interesting: http://www.brown-recluse.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/3/1/Spider_Identification_Forum.html And now I feel small skin agitations, like there are tiny spiders crawling on me. Yay. Tyler On Oct 11, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Alison Jones wrote: Yes, Carl, black widows are