Re: [FRIAM] Message from Moscow

2013-11-02 Thread Jochen Fromm
His asylum in Russia is temporary, it is limited to a year. He would like to get asylum in a western country. And most of all he would like to testify before members of the US congress. From what I have read today, it is legally possible that the German government denies the extradition to the

Re: [FRIAM] Message from Moscow

2013-11-02 Thread Owen Densmore
Everybody who cares to: sign the petition. -- Owen On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net wrote: His asylum in Russia is temporary, it is limited to a year. He would like to get asylum in a western country. And most of all he would like to testify before members

Re: [FRIAM] Disappearing E-mails

2013-11-02 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 11/2/13, 10:15 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote: They are still in the archives of the FRIAM list, but seem to vanish from the IMAP server. I periodically get errors that my mail provider isn't white listed relative to the FRIAM provider. Associated with these diagnostic e-mails is also this

Re: [FRIAM] Disappearing E-mails

2013-11-02 Thread Jochen Fromm
I don't know the exact reason, but it starts to frighten me. Creepy. Maybe Snowden was right after all.  -J. Sent from Android Original message From: Marcus G. Daniels mar...@snoutfarm.com Date: 02/11/2013 17:24 (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM]

Re: [FRIAM] Disappearing E-mails

2013-11-02 Thread Owen Densmore
Interestingly enough, I didn't receive Marcus' response. -- Owen On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net wrote: I don't know the exact reason, but it starts to frighten me. Creepy. Maybe Snowden was right after all. -J. Sent from Android Original

Re: [FRIAM] Disappearing E-mails

2013-11-02 Thread Steve Smith
Jochen - I don't know the exact reason, but it starts to frighten me. Creepy. Maybe Snowden was right after all. I assume you meant that sarcastically... I don't think anyone has ever suggested Snowden's disclosures were not reflecting the facts accurately... Which makes it all the more

Re: [FRIAM] Disappearing E-mails

2013-11-02 Thread Owen Densmore
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Owen - I get a lot of FRIAM mail out of order and/or maybe with some missing submissions that *others* apparently get. Since many here do include the full text of the message they are replying to, I generally don't think

Re: [FRIAM] phonebloks teams with motorola

2013-11-02 Thread Russell Standish
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:01:11AM -0600, Steve Smith wrote: FWIW, Daniel Dennett recently claimed that 10,000 years ago humans and their domesticated animals comprised less than 1% of the mass of animal (not including invertebrates or ocean dwellers) of the earth but today we, along with

Re: [FRIAM] phonebloks teams with motorola

2013-11-02 Thread Robert Holmes
Wikipedia has an interesting summary of various species' contribution to terrestrial biomass (linkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomass_(ecology)#Global_biomass). The following species are each individually responsible for 30% of terrestrial biomass: 1. humans 2. cattle 3. sheep and goats

Re: [FRIAM] phonebloks teams with motorola

2013-11-02 Thread Roger Critchlow
I think they're saying that the dry biomass of terrestrial species is 30% of the fresh biomass. Especially since the global dry biomass in million tonnes / global wet (fresh) biomass in million tonnes = 0.3 for all those rows in the table. -- rec -- On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Robert

Re: [FRIAM] phonebloks teams with motorola

2013-11-02 Thread Steve Smith
Russel - FWIW, Daniel Dennett recently claimed that 10,000 years ago humans and their domesticated animals comprised less than 1% of the mass of animal (not including invertebrates or ocean dwellers) of the earth but today we, along with our livestock and pets comprise 98%... I can't even image

Re: [FRIAM] phonebloks teams with motorola

2013-11-02 Thread Carl Tollander
Would Dennett be more trying to make a point about how we're in the anthropocene now as opposed to our throw weight in the holocene? I haven't been following his writings so I don't know. And in any case we farm fish, or otherwise manipulate their populations, so they should count as much as

Re: [FRIAM] Message from Moscow

2013-11-02 Thread Carl Tollander
My understanding is that it is renewable each year. There is no particular evidence that his politics are especially green. Has he said he would especially like to get asylum in a 'western' country? Why would he risk going someplace new based on a promise of what is legally possible? Does