Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-25 Thread Robert Wall
No. My bad Glen. I guess I have buttons I didn't think I had ... Thanks for the follow-up explanation. Much appreciated. My objective, to be sure, was not seeking agreement, except on the general concept of "being in the zone." It was they only way to be sure we could start on the same page ...

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-25 Thread Nick Thompson
Thank you, Vladimyr, As any member of the local congregation will tell you, I am a sucker for the plausible. I am also interested in bringing new blood into our conversations and in guiding the conversations back toward complexity in order to bring back some of the old blood that has gone

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-25 Thread Robert Wall
G!  New day... On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 8:30 AM ┣glen┫ wrote: > Oops. I'm sorry if I've offended you. I am contrarian and tend to seek > out areas of disagreement, rather than agreement. > > On 02/24/2017 07:14 PM, Robert Wall wrote: > > The "as if" was the key.

[FRIAM] IS: Rhetoric in scientific arguments WAS: FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-25 Thread Nick Thompson
Hi Glen, This sentence raises some issues that are profoundly interesting to me, because I am interested in both terseness and precision in scientific argument. . I should pepper my replies with more social salve like "to me" and "in my opinion". It's difficult, though, because that

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-25 Thread ┣glen┫
Oops. I'm sorry if I've offended you. I am contrarian and tend to seek out areas of disagreement, rather than agreement. On 02/24/2017 07:14 PM, Robert Wall wrote: > The "as if" was the key. The "as if" alludes to the behavioral > manifestation. Yes? Yes, of course. However, this is the

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Fractal discussion Landscape-bird songs

2017-02-25 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
Nick, Thank-you and let's talk about the birds in their complex landscape. Are they hatched with the neural equipment to sing... or do they discriminate their most ideal voices from the orchestra, only after learning their father's voice? Do they mimic the Caruso's among themselves and regale