Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

< Carry on with what looks to be over thinking a simple topic though. > There are seven topics named in the subject line alone. And that’s before unfurling even one of them. (As much as I hate to argue for Glen’s position.) Marcus From: Friam on behalf of Gillian Densmore Reply-To: The

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

Sigh...their are a bunch of things about this thread...I just can'tness 4Chan started as a buliten board a long time ago- as far as I know it's mostly Anonymous talk for the collectives: PhpSec and Anoynouse for sure. I think the other factions got booted off around 2012 or so for being to extreme

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

Well, I agree completely about not requiring pre-approval for a segue. I go even further and don't see the need even for recognition that the transition has taken place. And I wouldn't know a segue if it hit me in the face. With deep fakes and auditions for roles like political candidates or

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

I think generative learning (e.g. for deep fake videos) could capture Hendrix or Page. Studying the deviations from the likely governing equations could be interesting (and probably could be quantified) but it also just could be some idiosyncratic bit of developmental history that means

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

Hm. As shallow as I think Trump is, or as much as I think Warren is a gaming politician, I don't think any of it is (merely) a distraction. I'm rather fond of the concept of code switching (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code-switching) and it's extrapolation into other domains (e.g.

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

Glen writes: < But further, I can continue to claim that roles are more expressive than topics because roles communicate the uncertainty/variation surrounding points of view that topics can only vaguely hint at. > Or they can just be a distraction, like Elizabeth Warren showing that she

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

Aha! OK. If we view stories as constrained in some way, then it's easy for me to agree with you. For example, if Little Red Riding Hood is only about wolves and people, then it really doesn't matter how well the story is acted. But if it's *also* a more occult story about trust and the wolf

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

The "topic" is the content of the story, and there has to be some mutual understanding about it by the writer/director/actor/audience for it to mean anything. It seems like the potential importance of the "role" is to say some messages can't be communicated without an actor who is taken to

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

OK. Again, I don't think I disagree with (what I think) you're saying. But I am having trouble understanding why this is related to the difference between an undercover LEO versus a method actor. Are you willing to connect the dots more explicitly? Although I agree with the gist of what

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

I would again make a distinction between private stories and public stories. I may delude myself, but I also have a set of experiences that are only mine and that I either could not or would not share. My self-stories (and dreams) are grounded in a way the stories I read are not. A

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

I was struggling to find something to disagree with. 8^) But of course, I found it. A story is not (purely) imaginary nor a (mere) reformulation of past experience. I think it's part-and-parcel of consciousness, whatever that is. We tell ourselves stories all the time, big and small ones.

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

A story is imaginary or a reformulation of past experience. It's written down and static. A story has to fit together or else it is not a story, it is improvisation. A LEO would have to model the situation and estimate what risks she was prepared to take and to reconcile her job with her

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

Is there an important difference between Stanislavski method acting and convincing insincerity?Similar skill set to vice cops and spies. On 1/28/19, 10:14 AM, "Friam on behalf of ∄ uǝʃƃ" wrote: So, I stumbled on this today: The Alt-Right Playbook: The Card Says Moops

[FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

So, I stumbled on this today: The Alt-Right Playbook: The Card Says Moops https://youtu.be/xMabpBvtXr4 Transcript here: http://innuendostudios.tumblr.com/post/182302598987/new-video-essay-internet-reactionaries-argue-as And my ignorance forced me to find out which "Stanislavski" they were

Re: [FRIAM] Results of the 2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum - Wikipedia

The Voice is produced in Hollywood, so same kind of reasoning doesn’t apply for a CalExit. From: Friam on behalf of Robert Holmes Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Date: Monday, January 28, 2019 at 9:46 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group

Re: [FRIAM] Results of the 2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum - Wikipedia

I think that Sir Humphrey has the right idea . On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 11:24 AM Owen Densmore wrote: > I find it amazing that, with all the discussion of the Irish border and > the "backstop", the